OT - Scott Frost: Some of Alabama's National Titles Aren't Legitimate
He and Saban are going at it. He failed to mention that Nebraska's 1997 "title" isn't legitimate, either. No word on what his mommy had to say.
Man, I want to beat this guy again.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/23528669/scott-frost-sa…
Being fair to Frost, he did come out and say earlier this year that if he would have stayed at UCF he would have a hard time getting behind the "National Champions" bit since the winner of the CFP is the champion. Not sure why Saban had to open his mouth about the situation but obviously this was only a response to that.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/23410607/former-ucf-coa…
Or at least he claims to.
I don't know why Saban didn't just take the "high road" when talking aobut UCF, but he was the one talking down about UCF in the USA Today article earlier this week.
So good for Frost for firing back. The current system is better than it used to be, but it's still not a very inclusive way for determining a National Champion.
of that article is Saban going on about how teams that made the CFP had to beat "good teams" to get in, getting a shot in at UCF's schedule.
All while knowing that Bama played several cupcakes, including an FCS team, to get there themselves.
Hypocrite.
It's amusing to watch them try to say that it's ridiculous for UCF to claim this title, but in the same breath try to justify Bama claiming all the titles they claim.
I see 'Scott Frost' and 'national title' in the same sentence and I still want to punch something.
Since this guy is always so full of opinions, I'd love to know how he feels about illegal kicks in the end zone.
Frost is an expert in claiming dubious titles, but in this case he is definitely correct.
Much ado about nothing though, a reporter asked him about Saban's comments and he responded.
...in a mythical world.
But Alabama has probably bought the right to claim all the titles.
Undefeated seasons.
Nick Saban - 1 - 2009.
Scott Frost - 1 - 2017.
Alabama paid good money for those Championships!
Ok Martin Short...
1941, everything else claimed since 1936 was an AP and/or Coaches' Poll national title (which by the way is our standard too for counting titles, which is why we only have one title since 1950). Not to defend Bama, but MSU is far worse in this regard than Bama
Scott Frost has been dead to me since January 8, 1998.
"But we have a system, and it's not fair to the people who went through the system and earned their way playing really, really good teams -- I mean really good teams -- and really tough games. It's not quite fair to them for somebody else just to decide to [claim a national championship]."
This is coming from the head coach of a school whose Sport Information Director back in the day laid claim to five pre-Bryant "titles" simply in an effort to beef up the appearance of Crimson Tide football. That's some respect for the system indeed, especially by claiming titles from a time where - let's face it - there wasn't really much of a system.
Pretty much no titles are legitimate prior to the modern era. Not sure Michigan wants to gloat too much in this discussion.
Not allowed to post yet, where to sit at Ryan Field? Planning to go to the Michigan game this fall there.
Your only concern is being too low to see the whole field. Sit 2/3rds or 3/4ths of the way up in sec 126-131 or sit in the first few rows of sec 226-231. Sitting too low there is obstructed view on the sideline from camera cranes and you can’t see across the field or at least one end zone. Sitting too high isn’t really a thing but you probably can do better than last few rows. Avoid the corners of the field as they don’t go up high enough to see much and forget the end zone.
Exactly what I was looking for.
Even in the modern era:
They have two titles when they not only didn't win their conference, but didn't even win their division and basically got in because voters were afraid to piss off the SEC commisioner.
He's a dick, but he's got a point.
by the media is ridiculous and over the top....National Champs w/o winning division....
But can we get a Christmas picture of him wearing a sweater, holding his cat?
This is exactly why I'm glad UCF claimed a National Title this season. They were undefeated and Alabama/others has claimed the same for less! In the end, who gives a crap!
To be the head coach at ALABAMA and then throw shade at another school for making up a national title based on absolutely nothing.
Sure, the things he says about what happened 20 plus years ago - the 1997 MNC and the recent UCF-Michigan "we outhit them!"stuff makes him sound like an epic douche.
But the guy has personal pride. He is an ardent competitor. And at least he has balls.
Personally I want Nebraska back as college football power, and I think they will be soon enough.
In recent years Ohio State, Penn State, Wisconsin, MSU and Iowa have all enjoyed an easy go of it in the BIG10 - mainly because both Michigan and Nebraska programs have been MIA. For crying out loud Iowa went unbeaten 12-0 a few years ago. That's dumb!
I want that to change and for the league to realize its promise, top to bottom and for the Saturday bludgeonings by the traditional powers to return.
For all of eff ups by the NU leadership in Lincoln since firing Solich, hiring Frost was a good decision. Frost is competent. Opponents are simply not going to be able waltz into Lincoln to fart around relying on shitty NU kicking games, incompetent offensive play calling and sieve run defense. Those days are probably over.
Now, I hope Michigan trounces the Huskers by forty in Ann Arbor on September 22.
But I would have no issue - none at all - from then on out withnessing the Huskers kick the shit out of every other opponent on their schedule this fall, including MSU and at Ohio St., on their way to an 11-1 record next year.
In fact, Big Ten football desperately needs a ridiculous outcome exactly like that this fall.
Don't disappoint us Scott.
water is wet.
I had to log in to agree with this. The big money in college football has made them lose their minds. Conference championship games are about money and nothing more. The Big 12 actually did have everyone play everyone in conference but still decided they needed a conference championship. Meanwhile, we have giant conferences where Alabama has played Middle Tennessee State more times during Saban's tenure than they have played Georgia. West Virginia is in the same conference as Texas Tech. Morgantown, WV and Lubbock, TX. Rutgers is in the same conference as Nebraska. Piscataway, NJ and Lincoln, NE. Insane. And why? Money. This is supposed to be interscholastic athletics. But it's not. It's money.
Sigh...
In a fair universe, Saban is due for an embarrassing ass-kicking. One can hope it is at the hands of Harbaugh. Additionally, Scott Frost is delusional. He has two 'fake' national championships.
Sure, Alabama claims some dubious NCs from back in the day as do many other traditional powers. But Alabama's most recent championship is pretty legit, in fact maybe the most legit one they ever claimed.
This UCF story is just getting absurd. People whined and whined about the old system so they got the BCS, then they whined about the BCS for 15 years and then they got the CFP and gee it's almost like there's a bunch of whiners out there who will never shut the eff up.
The idea that the MAC and Sun Belt champions are more deserving of the playoff than the 2nd or 3rd best Big Ten or SEC team is an opinion in itself.
These aren't pro sports with a salary ceiling and salary cap playing schedules predetermined by maths. Opinion will always be part of college football, one way or the other.
I like Frost, he has balls. Hope Jim knocks his ass out though. Saban in the article, fucking yup. Yeah Clemson, Georgia and Bama play such tough teams. They play eachother, and all the same teams. That's it. For the most part if you get what I'm saying. That's exactly why these chicken shits around the country wont expand the playoff because the SEC will get exposed. Michigan, Nebraska, Penn State and Ohio State should just start doing home and homes with those candy asses. Schedule Bama, Georgia, Tennessee and Clemson(ACC). End their little so called dominion over college football. I'd pay big money to see Georgia or Bama in the Big House and get bitch slapped. Those would be the games of all games in my lifetime.
he is becoming the biggest JERK in college football