APBlue

May 6th, 2014 at 8:11 AM ^

For those of you who don't care to click on the link, an explanation from the first paragraph:

A Rutgers official asked Eric LeGrand on Saturday night to deliver the keynote speech at the university's May 18 commencement. Less than 48 hours later, another university official called LeGrand to inform him that the school had "decided to go in another direction for political reasons."

LSAClassOf2000

May 6th, 2014 at 8:15 AM ^

"A Rutgers official asked Eric LeGrand on Saturday night to deliver the keynote speech at the university's May 18 commencement. Less than 48 hours later, another university official called LeGrand to inform him that the school had "decided to go in another direction for political reasons."

Huh? Political reasons? Here's a Rutgers student with an incredible and inspirational story to tell and this is how he gets treated? If someone would care, please tell me why we chose Rutgers over other schools when expanding the conference. I find it fitting somehow that the next recommended story is about a tight end transferring away from Rutgers hoping to reach his potential elsewhere. 

stephenrjking

May 6th, 2014 at 8:51 AM ^

It's "political reasons" because they seriously screwed up in allowing Condi Rice to be shouted down because some people didn't like her politics, so they needed to get someone who seemed to make up for it. Further discussion of details of this would violate the board's no-politics policy.

stephenrjking

May 6th, 2014 at 10:37 AM ^

I'll believe this is an intellectually honest opinion if you can either document your protest of President Obama's speech at U of M in 2010 due to his excessive use of drone strikes, or coherently argue that it is better to kill suspected terrorists and their families than to waterboard them. I have mixed thoughts about these issues and differ in places with Rice's politics, but this is not the place to get into them. The fact is, politicians on both sides of the aisle have their hands dirty in these areas; Rice did not get shouted down because of any one issue. It was garden-variety partisan politics. I think commencements should be above that (and had no problem with President Obama speaking at either UM or any other place). However, many don't. But the point of my post was not to give you a chance to throw out your views, but to illuminate the larger situation that Rutgers has allowed itself to become entangled in. And to state why the "Politics" explanation was an accurate comment from Legrand.

Lionsfan

May 6th, 2014 at 10:58 AM ^

You're right, it's not just a Bush administration thing; Obama is definitely toeing/crossing the same lines.

That being said, I disagree that anybody here is being shouted down. But going further than that is more political than we should get on MGoBlog, which is also taking away from the key point of:

"LOL MORE LIKE BUTTGERS AMIRITE?!??!?!?"

JamieH

May 6th, 2014 at 10:51 AM ^

that they "seriously screwed up" not in "allowing Condi Rice to be shouted down because some people didn't like her politics", but in naming someone to be their commencement speaker who would so obviously be a lightning-rod for student anger and criticism?   They brought this on themselves. 

 

As usual, pretty much all of Rutgers wounds are self-inflicted.

white_pony_rocks

May 6th, 2014 at 8:31 AM ^

so how did the media find out about this? why is it that some people just can't deal with others decisions so they have to go and make them look bad? legrand should have been like "this sucks, what a bunch of assholes, but they can do what they want" instead of "this sucks, what a bunch of assholes, I'm going to contact the media and make them look bad because I don't have the ability to deal with this like an adult". it's pathetic

lbpeley

May 6th, 2014 at 10:11 AM ^

he can't deal with it. It's his fault he took it public.

I couldn't think of a better person to give the speech but apparently Rutgers' officials could. Legrand needs to deal with it. He - as much or more than most - should know that life is rarely fair. 

Gulogulo37

May 6th, 2014 at 11:26 AM ^

I don't understand the sentiment. Life's not fair, so shut up and take it? I don't really think this is that big of a deal one way or the other, but I certainly have no problem with LeGrand making it public.

WolvinLA2

May 6th, 2014 at 11:46 AM ^

But Rutgers didn't really do anything wrong other than change their mind, and it's not like they told him at the last minute.  In my opinion, and I know this differs from a lot of other people, is that it makes LeGrand look bitter.  Like a child tattle-telling.  

Why make it public?  Just so LeGrand can say that they wanted him then spurned him?  I don't see what Rutgers did as that big of a deal, but I don't see why LeGrand needed to go to the media with it, other than it keeps him in the spotlight.

saveferris

May 6th, 2014 at 8:38 AM ^

another university official called LeGrand to inform him that the school had "decided to go in another direction for political reasons.
Can't Delany use the same excuse for backing off on admitting these assholes to the B1G? Look, we just have to change a few words in the above quote and we're done....it's not so hard. I keep thinking back to a time when we probably could've wooed Syracuse into the conference, which would've moved our footprint pretty firmly into New York. Shit.

M-Dog

May 6th, 2014 at 9:17 AM ^

Syracuse > Rutgers in all ways except one . . . Syracuse is in the Syracuse area, Rutgers is in the New York City area.  Hence, we get Rutgers.  

If Rutgers were 200 miles west, the B1G schools would never even lower themselves to schedule them, much less invite them into the conference.

 

Michigan Arrogance

May 6th, 2014 at 4:23 PM ^

/s

/LOGIC

 

but if they were 200 miles further EAST, then not only would they be admitted to the conference but each B10 team would be required to play rutgers twice in all sports (3 times if possible), NJ'd be hosting all B10 tourney events AND prior to all B10 competitions, they'd play the Rutgers fight song after the national anthem.

 

/LOGIC

/s

Coldwater

May 6th, 2014 at 8:38 AM ^

Really, they are coming to the Big Ten? What a cluster of an administration.
Way to go Jim Delany. I hope that East Coast "presence" is worth it.

Njia

May 6th, 2014 at 8:45 AM ^

That the "spineless" ones in this story are members of the Rutgers administration. The whole commencement saga at Rutgers this spring has been one shit show after another.

FreddieMercuryHayes

May 6th, 2014 at 8:55 AM ^

The 'political reasons' is not anything from Rutgers (at least that I've been able to tell; there's no quotes from Rutgers on this subject yet).  LeGrand went public that he was rejected after being told they chose someone else, but did not give reasons.  The 'political reasons' was an editorial comment by LeGrand apparently.  Another reporter tweeted out that LeGrand went public because Rutgers hadn't returned communication for further clarification on why they choose someone else after giving the job to him first. 

So terrible PR on Rutgers part?  Yes.  Terrible communication on Rutgers part?  Yes.  Malicious act to replace an inspirational alum with a politician for some unknown political gains?  Maybe, maybe not?  I'll reserve full judgement until more facts come out.  For all we know, they promised the job to that other guy and it didn't get communicated to the President who then went and choose LeGrand afterward. 

But still, how does Rutgers not have their shit in order to coordinate this stuff effectively?

FreddieMercuryHayes

May 6th, 2014 at 10:11 AM ^

Was it?  I see a tweet from LeGrand, the source of the 'political reasons', which says:

 

"Rutgers offered me the commencement speech this weekend and I was going to accept but they decided to go other ways for political reasons."

I also see reports from various news agencies along the lines of:

 

LeGrand said he was starting to plan his speech on Monday when he received a call from new athletic director Julie Hermann, who told him the school was having someone else give the commencement speech.

And I also read a quote from LeGrand saying:

"I just want an explanation," LeGrand told NJ.com Monday night. "I wish somebody would have given me a call tonight and explained to me why. Then I can understand, but don't just leave me hanging."

Nowhere have I found a "Julie Hermann said it was for politcal reasons" for any comment really from any Rutgers official.  So implying that LeGrand is quoting Hermann, is exactly what it sounds like: an implication that involves a made logical jump on the reader's part.  I mean, yeah, it's perfectly possible that LeGrand quoted Hermann, but he didn't attribute that to Hermann in any of his statements I've found at least.  But it's also possible that the 'political reasons' is an editorial on LeGrand's part.  Maybe it's just me, but in this current age of INTSTANT OUTRAGE brought on by news being broken in 140 charachters, I'll wait for holes to be filled in so my outrage can be measured and appropriate.

jerseyblue

May 6th, 2014 at 8:58 AM ^

LeGrand posted it on twitter and facebook when he probably should have kept it in house. I'm no fan of RU's President Barchi and AD Hermann. That said Eric comes off a a little ungrateful here. RU has done a lot for him. They retired his number because he was paralyzed. It certainly wasn't because of his play. He was the 3rd DT in the rotation as a junior. Then he gets a job as the analyst for Rutgers games which he's not very good at. He doesn't have a voice for broadcasting. He probably should have thought "Rutgers is going to trot me out and pay me for things for the rest of my life. Better to just swallow this and keep moving." Dealing with President/AD incompetence is something he'll have to get used to there.

Sports

May 6th, 2014 at 10:52 AM ^

Agreed. LeGrand has provided one of the only uplifting stories to come out of the PR hellscape that is Rutgers in the last several years. Despite every indication that the place is, in an administrative sense, rotten to the core, he's served as a great ambassador. 

WolvinLA2

May 6th, 2014 at 11:57 AM ^

I agree with that.  It has been mutually beneficial.  So why trash them after this?  Sure, Rutgers handled this poorly.  It turned out he was their second choice for commencement speaker (which shows how highly they think of him) and shouldn't have asked him at all.  Now, he has gone and blown that entire relationship up, which in the long-run will probably hurt him more than Rutgers (though for the short term makes both look bad).  

If you had a co-worker who you got along with really well, he helped you and you helped him and you both made each other's lives easier at work, and then that person did one thing that wasn't terrible but made you feel bad, do you throw him under the bus in front of the entire office?  Sure, he might not be as good of a buddy going forward, but to throw it all out the window is just dumb.  

Gulogulo37

May 6th, 2014 at 9:56 AM ^

Yeah, he's so set up with that broadcasting job. I wanna get paralyzed too, the benefits are amazing.

I get what you're saying, but come on, the guy literally broke his neck working for them. I think whether he should have dealt with it in private or not, it's a little ridiculous to call him ungrateful. Also, I'll take your word for it that he's the one who got the info out, but don't you think he also mentioned to at least some people before that he'd be doing the speech once they gave it to him? And if so, do you think he should have lied about why he wouldn't be giving the speech anymore?

WolvinLA2

May 6th, 2014 at 12:01 PM ^

But it's not Rutgers's fault that he's paralyzed.  That could have happened at any school.  But Rutgers has helped him out and honored him quite a bit since the accident.  I think the point the above poster made was that Rutgers has done a lot for LeGrand, and I agree with that.  And I agree Rutgers handled this poorly, but to drag their name through the mud over it seems bitter on LeGrand's part and probably isn't smart for him going forward.

johnvand

May 6th, 2014 at 9:15 AM ^

#footprint.

Just as the over commercialization of the pro leagues made me stop watching them, the over expanstion and commercialization of the NCAA will eventually lead me to stop watching and supporting them as well.

It's sad, but the reality of it all.  Human beings turn into raging douchemonsters when money and politics get involved.