OT: Please Offer Journey Brown

Submitted by Steve Breaston… on

In a clash of historic proportions, Meadville (PA) beat Dubois, 107-90, IN FOOTBALL. Meadville RB Journey Brown ran for 720 yards and 10 tds, including 341 yards and 5 TD's in the first half! He beat the previous Pennsylvania single game rushing record by over 200 yards.

In perspective, the highest-scoring NFL game was a1966 matchup between the Giants and Redskins which ended 72-41, a combined 113 points. This game had 84 more than that.

Those are video game and Mike Hart in high school numbers. So, why wouldn't we drop everything and get this kid?

 

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rainingmaize

September 12th, 2015 at 6:06 AM ^

I can't figure out which stat about this game is the most insane.

1.Journey Brown did all of this on just 30 carries

2. His Name is Journey

3. This isn't even the national record for most rushing yards in one game. Some guy from 1950 apparently ran for 754 yards once.

4. The losing team featured a sophomore QB playing his first game. That QB threw for over 500 yards in the first half, and finished with 741 yards and 10! Touchdowns himself.

5. A High School Team had a QB throw for 741 yards and 10 touchdowns, AND STILL LOST!

6. The national record for passing yards in one game is 764

7. The Score.

8. This wasn't a case of some D1 talent dominating the lowest level of Wyoming high school football, this happened in Pennsylvania, The talented state that has produced the most NFL Hall of Famers. 

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Optimism Attache

September 12th, 2015 at 6:45 AM ^

Serious question for everyone that posted before 5am on this: Do you wake up that early, or did you just not go to sleep yet? Alternatively, do you live in some time zone like the UK where it would not be strange to be awake at the hours of your posts. Thanks and Go Blue!

 

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Don

September 12th, 2015 at 9:39 AM ^

woke up stark awake at midnight and couldn't get back to sleep so I went down to the office and got some work done. That's one of the downsides of a home office—you're never away from work.

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Danwillhor

September 12th, 2015 at 8:03 AM ^

becomes Arena Ball at every level. In an 80s baby and product of the 90s. I was a literal millenial graduate and in that short amount of time HS football went from roughly 90% of schools running the ball 90+% of the time out of any given system (mainly basic "pro style", under center OR wishbone) to most running a read-option spread. I'd now say that about 60-70% run some form of the spread and the others still run the system they have since they took the job in the 70s or what they learned from their coaches from that Era. Tons of shotgun no matter how you slice it. CFB? Let's be honest and admit that you have to at least run a multi-pro to have a chance to win big. It's all about offense, all about points. Points are the new defense. If you're Iowa you better have the best in the country on offense because any team with average talent running a hyper - spread system WILL score points. They have a shot just due to the system. You're at a disadvantage in modern HS & CFB running offenses under center. The NFL is and will slowly adapt because they'll be forced to. It's already a spread passing league but it'll get worse. 5,000 yards passing will be the new 1,000 rushing season soon (if it's not already). I hate that. Defense is just not a part of the game the way it used to be due to the rules that are so geared to produce offense. If an offense fails in a game between evenly talented teams it's rarely due to the opposing defense being so dominant that they couldn't move. It's now almost always due to mistakes because an offense can't fail given its advantages. Yet, why is that the case? How have we gotten here? Are that many football fans bored by defense? Have they figured out that people will stop watching if teams don't score X amount of points per game? I dunno....I just see every team running these hyper-spread, constant jet sweep triple read option double streak route offenses. I'LL END WITH THIS: Woody Hayes once said he didn't pass the ball a lot because "only 3 things can happen and 2 are bad" - inferring that it'll be caught, incomplete or intercepted. Now? 5 things can happen and only 2 are bad. It'll be: caught, you'll get a PI call, you'll get a roughing the passer, incomplete or intercepted. With those odds, why do anything but what we see now? Every defense now has to immediately guard the threat of a jet sweep, the fake of the sweep into the read option that can be a two direction run or pulled down and thrown. Defenses aren't catching up and never will until people get sick of seeing games with basketball scores and video game stats. /end rant get off my law I'm barely 30

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Danwillhor

September 12th, 2015 at 8:26 AM ^

the better defense plus an equal offense wins championships now. I'm not saying it's universal or 100% always but it's getting close. It doesn't feel like football anymore but I'm sure if we start winning big again it'll feel different (lol).

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EGD

September 12th, 2015 at 8:38 AM ^

Football is cyclical. New offensive schemes arise that exploit weaknesses in defensive personnel. Eventually defenses evolve to counter the new schemes. Then, another new round of offenses emerge to exploit whatever weaknesses are common in the new defensive systems. Then defenses evolve, and so on.

In recent years, the spread-to-run offense has seemed like the better mousetrap because it's difficult to find fast defensive players who can tackle in space, because it's easier to find a QB who can run well and throw okay than to find a precision passer (and because it's an easier system to teach players, thus enabling them to be effective with minimal development). But we are starting to see defenses adapt--modern quarters coverage schemes, hybrid space defenders, rugby-style tackling techniques, etc. As the modern defensive solutions become more refined and more widespread, I think we'll see spread-to-run offenses become less-effective. Scoring will go down, until offenses inevitably adapt again.

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Danwillhor

September 12th, 2015 at 9:02 AM ^

because it was true but it won't change when rules are being made and changed to help offenses before defenses can react over time. It just seems like "they" want football to be basketball on turf. They're helping it, IMO. Further, the kind of athletes that can effectively play defense against these offenses are very limited and always will be. Not only is defense reactionary by nature but the ideal HSP is almost a unicorn, ya know? Let's say Peppers becomes what we hope, that's still a crazy rare athlete in a sport that all indications say less kids are playing. I just think it's officially hit the point where rules need to be made. Nothing radical but something like "all offensive players must be set - no longer moving - before the snap". That would help without being a deathblow to modern offense. That and/or "any offensive player outside the Tackles must line up within 2 yards of the line of scrimmage". Something.....anything. It just doesn't feel like football to me so it's selfish but I can't be alone, can I? I only feel like I'm watching football when I see Wisconsin play Iowa lol. Offenses like Northwestern should be the limit and used only by teams that need every advantage because they can't recruit, dammit! What happened to manball?! (I get that most likely don't agree with me but I miss 90s football, not just winning. I find myself not even watching games outside of Michigan's now)

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EGD

September 12th, 2015 at 9:42 AM ^

With some of the rules changes, I agree it's unlikely we'll see a return to the days of games regularly ending 9-7 or 10-3. If that's what you really want, okay. Personally I'm okay with more points being scored, but to each his own.

If Peppers develops into the player we are hoping for, then he could be a Woodson-level all-time great. But there are other ways to defend against a spread offense without having a ridiculously talented player line up as your hybrid space guy. MSU and Virginia Tech both dealt with the Denard offense pretty well by using a quarters scheme that gave them a nine-man box and forced Denard to beat them with deep passing, for instance.

I think the difficulty for many teams is, they might have seven or eight spread teams on the schedule but they still want a big, stout defensive front to deal with the other five or six teams running more physical, "pro-style" offenses. It's not so hard to find defensive players who can contend with one kind of offense or the other--but finding players who can match up against either kind of offense is pretty difficult.

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Danwillhor

September 12th, 2015 at 11:53 AM ^

defenses should have caught up and leveled the average scoring by now but they haven't. Each year it climbs and I get the feeling (based on more rules favoring offense) that it's what the powers that be want. I don't. I'm sure that nobody cares what I want but I want the scale to tip back a bit toward defense as it's been too long now, IMO. I mean, look at Oregon and how they are spoken about like they had a "down day" or "started slow" if they only have 21 at the half and/or don't drop 50 on a team. ESPN is talking like their offense had a bad day by only dropping 62 (iirc) on 11 living bodies that know the game and are actively trying to stop them lol. Their defense gave up a ton and that was spoken about but given the context of the teams they make it very clear that offense IS defense now. I'm just of the position that the day I'm disappointed in a 62 point offense is the day I stop liking football because it's no longer football. I don't necessarily disagree with anything anyone would say in explanation or disagreement as I understand WHY it's that way but it should be cycling down and it's not. It's getting faster and crazier and you have to at least get in the pool if not outright cannonball, be mediocre or Alabama. Michigan will never do the things that let Alabama be Alabama so it kinda bothers me. I just feel like it's time to help defenses a bit. Nothing major but it seems wrong to have guys starting plays looking like they're in the CFL or Arena League.

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