this guy evidently hired to work for AD
Class guy until his starters are dunking on you up 30 in the last 3 minutes.
Weren't they up 60 doing alley-oops in the closing minute?
yeah that was back in the cleaves years i think
Never been a big opponent of running up the score. If you don't want to get embarassed, then step your game up. Hate when people knock teams for playing at the top of their game for a full game.
There is something about outdoor basketball and hockey is just so cool
I know for a fact that this event has been in the works between MSU and UNC for over 5 years. It came out to the public sometime last year. That's how long it takes to get something like this set up. Pretty ridiculous idea, and most likely will be a sloppy game because of the surroundings (puts a little damper on it), but in my mind it's still pretty cool too. It's like one of those movies that are completely unbelievable but you don't care because it's badass.
It is currently supposed to be upper 60s at game time but with a chance of rain. If it rains it sucks because they play below deck. Wind is forecasted to be low.
It can get pretty chilly at night in San Diego especially in/around the bay. It all depends on which way the wind is coming in from.
Also which harbor is it located it?
....based on early week weather reports, i don't think they built the court in the hanger. If it rains it will be called off.
They always talk about how playing in football stadiums makes basketball players shooting worse because of the way the background looks. This is going to be even worse, plus there will be unsteady winds. The shooting is going to be bad all around, but I think the idea is unique and exciting enough that it doesn't matter as a one time thing. I just hope this doesn't become a annual thing. Basketball on an aircraft carrier isn't like playing hockey outside.
Plus, if the ship rocks at all, I'm sure that could throw people off. Can you imagine going up for a layup and just as you jump, the floor just dips below your feet?
The ship won't rock. It's an aircraft carrier sitting in port, it'll be just as steady as solid ground. I think the potential for wind is the real issue.
Do you think they're playing on a pontoon boat?
On the Cedar River?
My friend wondered what would happen if the players got seasick haha.
They are saying UConn and Arizona next year.
Here's a cool time-lapsed video of the construction of the court and stand.
My mind is still blown every time I think about the fact that they can land planes on boats. Those things are so big.
It's gotta take so much skill to land planes, if you don't make it you're in the ocean
a big steel cable and tailhook
And on the newest carrier that may still be under construction, electromagnets.
That's exactly what I am thinking anytime I fly into LaGuardia.
Everything I've read about it calls it more of a controlled crash than a landing. I remember reading about a study they conducted during the Vietnam War where they wired up some Aviators and found they were under the most stress during the landing. So yeah, it's pretty cool.
Doesn't seem like there would be a bad seat there. This should be interesting to watch. I wonder if Maverick will request a fly-by despite the fact that he is assigned to Enterprise.
The pattern is full
I would have a concern about the players getting knocked off the actual court though. The flight deck of aircraft carriers have a roughly pebbled surface to them that could cause severe "road rash" if a player falls on it. I'm thinking about those falls out of bounds at the ends of the courts players always get involved in. Overall, though, pretty cool setup.
Hopefully Michigan can play on the deck of the USS Gerald R. Ford after it's launched in a few years.
The weather and the surroundings are going to change the complexity of this game. It's not like playing in a gym. It may end up that MSU is able to make the necessary adjustments while UNC struggles.
Going into the game, it is easy to say that MSU benefits more from the uncertainty of the conditions that UNC.
The 12 point spread
I say at least a twenty point loss. They need to wake up and realize things have changed. They play duke next week too. Nothing like starting the season with two blow out losses.
There's between 7 and 9 NBA players on UNC's roster. 4 or 5 of them will be lottery picks. If State finds a way to keep the game in single digits up to halftime, I'll be very surprised.
NBAdraft.net has 8 players being drafted in the next two mock drafts. In the words of Jim Calhoun, "Get some facts and come back and see me"
Is that the old basketball league that folded?
This is the second-most gimmicky, made-for tv, fake-newsworthy, thing ever to happen on an aircraft carrier.
nvm please delete. I misread what your post.
a good idea...This game is for our armed forces ..Not so much msu vs nc...It should be a great environment ..I'll watch ..
I love the fact the tickets are only for serviceman/women but srlsy on a carrier??? This is so Lebron 2010 Decision gimmicky but whatever I guess. Just hope UNC wins.
I love the fact the tickets are only for serviceman/women
Honestly....probably a logistics/security thing as much as anything. Not feasible to do a check on 7,000 random people that want to go to the game.
Ticket packages were available thought both schools. 3500 are military. I think about 2000 are for the schools and the other 1500 are for the sponsors.
Class guy. But no John Beilein.
I used to think Izzo was very classy; the one guy affiliated with MSU sports I could respect, straight up.
But I thought he came off like a whiny little bitch after last year's loss to U-M, saying Morris deserved to have Lucas throw the ball at him because he went for a layup and talked smack, etc etc I mean, come on.
One thing I wanna put out there: this is being hailed as an event to honor servicemembers, and there will be a lot of that going on. From a practical standpoint, though.....this probably sucks for the Vinson crew. I mean sucks. I hope there's at least maybe a public thank-you during the event for the ship's crewmembers.
I have to admit I'm not 100% where you're going with that....but it doesn't sound much like you know what you're talking about.
See....the game is a massive interruption of business as usual because they are in port. Normally you get to settle into a routine in port. Every day of the year, ships have a list a mile long of maintenance and training that has to be done. For the Vinson, instead, the sailors have probably been run ragged making every inch of the place sparkle, since the president is coming. The force protection people are going apeshit. Whenever anyone visits a ship who outranks the CO, it's basically an inconvenience that effs up the whole day, and preparations occupy a few days beforehand. This? It's probably like a month's worth of inconvenience at a minimum. Probably the only consolation is they probably haven't gone underway for a while and get to stay in port, but even then, there are people pissed off about that. And they just got back this summer from deployment and now they've had to spend a month getting ready for this.
Fortunately, the huge size of the crew means carriers are usually equipped to handle something like this. Still, you know there's some poor junior officers or some poor division of sailors that had their workload doubled and then some for this event. It's awfully hard to believe people when they give speeches about military appreciation and all these commercials to "salute the troops" when your ass had to paint the same goddamn thing three times in a week so there wouldn't be any rust in any TV spots.
And just as a PSA, sailors at sea aren't battling boredom when people come out to entertain. They're battling overwork.
I think David Mayo's story for MLive sums up the game perfectly....
"It's on a ship, but Michigan State-UNC is a basketball game at it's core"
Good god this has been a bad week for sports reporters.
MSU helped put this together and it probably doesn't get done without Dan Gilbert (MSU grad) sponsoring the game.
MSU wants publicity and for this to be remembered.
But, looking at the game, it looks like MSU was the "easy" team scheduled for the #1 team in the country. To most people the game is about #1 and college bllueblood UNC playing on an aircraft carrier. If it is a blow-out as predicted, then "who did UNC beat on the aircraft carrier" may be forgetten by most fans.
Actually, it was Mark Hollis' idea, and MSU reached out to UNC. Original idea was two games in 2006 against service academies, but war prevented that. Hollis knows what he is doing - he came up with the idea of outdoor hockey that everyone is copying. Also, the event is planned to be continued, and MSU will be playing in 2013.
Game is definitley bringing tons of publicity. MSU and NC all over the news, ESPN, and national coverage.
But, I think most people will associate it with the better team, not MSU. That is just how it happens. People forget who played the National Championship game, just who won it.
Assuming UNC wins, if you polled 100 people a year or two from now, more would refer to UNC than MSU....even though it was "MSU's idea."
Take outdoor hockey, who beside MSU fans think it was something MSU "started" and when they find out...are they impressed by who started it or the outdoor games involving the best teams (like the red Wings).
You know Princeton wore winged helmets first, but who made them famous?
MSU screwed up by scheduling themselves as the tomato can in this game.
It's more a publicity stunt for both schools and the Navy. But, you have to appreciate the huge amount of planning and work that's gone into organizing this. It has to be a security nightmare for the Navy people as North Island Naval Air Station (where the Vinson is moored) has a lot of highly sensitive areas where they don't want civilians around. I had a stint working there as a civilian on one of the aircraft carriers and I can attest they take security seriously. Most of the ship will be closed off I'd imagine. It IS a beautiful spot though with a gorgeous view of San Diego across the bay.
On the OP - I'll take John Beilein from a classy viewpoint any day of the week over Izzo. Izzo can be real charming when he's calm and not on the court. But, he really loses his cool too much for me.