OT: Buccaneers WR Antonio Brown ends career mid-game
January 2nd, 2022 at 3:20 PM ^
WR with skill travel, but don't know if any team will want to deal with him again!
January 2nd, 2022 at 3:47 PM ^
Million dollar talent. Ten cent head.
January 2nd, 2022 at 6:51 PM ^
I don't think he has been right in the head ever since Vontaze Burfect knocked him out (literally) of the Wildcard game.
And while we're on the subject of multi-million dollar talent with a 10 cent head, there is a picture of Burfect next to the dictionary definition.
January 2nd, 2022 at 7:35 PM ^
CTE, man. I'm afraid Brown's life is going to eventually end very, very sadly.
January 2nd, 2022 at 4:10 PM ^
Bottom line is besides the 10 cent head, he is so fucking weird.
To quit on your team like that, especially Brady who went to bat for you to get the chances you got and a SB Ring, is such BS and callous, period!
January 2nd, 2022 at 5:32 PM ^
Dude shouldn't have been in the NFL and in an opportunity to quit. In order to get here, GMs, coaches and the NFL must have forgotten that prior to this he had...
- ...Sent threatening texts to a woman who accused him of sexual assault
- Faked a vaccine record
- Settled another sexual assault case out of court
- Threatened a third woman who had accused him of sexual assault
- Gotten dropped from Oakland for getting into a fight with their GM
January 3rd, 2022 at 6:43 AM ^
It’s never been about ‘team’ for him.
January 3rd, 2022 at 11:24 AM ^
Brady's comments on the situation seemed mostly supportive of Brown (while making sure to steer clear of any controversy, in typical Brady-like fashion), so maybe there's more to the story. People are saying that he's dealing with some mental health issues, which would explain a lot. Hope he gets whatever help he needs.
Someone who engages in such career-ending behavior must clearly be struggling with some demons.
January 2nd, 2022 at 5:31 PM ^
It’s a slap to TB12’s face, for sure, but Tom got over it quickly with a 94-yard, 9 play drive to win the game. Two quite different legacies.
January 3rd, 2022 at 8:10 AM ^
It's a slap to everybody's face in the organization. I don't know if Arians is a "win at all costs" kind of guy, but he was the one who had to publicly defend giving AB multiple chances. I'm ready for the 30 for 30 special on the TB12 Buccaneers.
January 2nd, 2022 at 3:26 PM ^
Huh. It was, indeed, a strange day at Windswept Field. Maybe his adopted sister recently married someone?
January 2nd, 2022 at 3:46 PM ^
Just saw his new commercial!! He heard the Taco Bell gong. Take that Subway and Wendy’s marketing teams.
January 2nd, 2022 at 4:55 PM ^
The Browner
January 2nd, 2022 at 3:27 PM ^
What a clown. He's probably lost out on over $50mil by being a dumbass. Still so productive.
January 2nd, 2022 at 3:32 PM ^
I always root for TB12 but it was a bit less fun last year when he had Brown on his team
January 2nd, 2022 at 6:52 PM ^
Oh please
January 2nd, 2022 at 10:47 PM ^
Please what?
January 2nd, 2022 at 3:36 PM ^
more power to him?
January 2nd, 2022 at 3:37 PM ^
When I see what has happened to Delonte West, I can't help but see it here as well. There is a clear mental imbalance with AB, and he needs help. I hope he gets it.
January 2nd, 2022 at 4:25 PM ^
I wouldn't be surprised if it's related to CTE or brain injury in general. Lot of theorizing and pretty compelling evidence that his behavior changed after the huge hit from Vontaze Burfict in 2016 that knocked him out with a severe concussion.
January 2nd, 2022 at 4:48 PM ^
Didn't details come out about his abhorrent behavior in college?
January 2nd, 2022 at 5:25 PM ^
Not aware of it. Care to expound?
January 2nd, 2022 at 5:44 PM ^
Brown's troubles began at the college level when he was slotted to play on scholarship at Florida International University, only to be expelled before the season even started due to an altercation with another student.
https://www.marca.com/en/nfl/tampa-bay-buccaneers/2021/12/03/61a98f3522601df2738b4574.html
https://www.nickiswift.com/149823/antonio-browns-tragic-real-life-story/
January 3rd, 2022 at 12:13 PM ^
I'm not seeing anything particularly "abhorrent" from his college years.
The most egregious thing is that he got into a fight and was not allowed to matriculate to FIU. That is only example. Otherwise, he had a rough childhood with no specific examples of him causing trouble and attended a diploma mill to get his grades up enough to get into college.
Literally every other example from those articles is from 2017 or later - which is after the Burfict hit.
January 3rd, 2022 at 2:53 AM ^
Yeah, but he probably didn't play football in college and so he never could have had any brain damage from anything football related, so that's besides the point. Besides football is very safe, you can't prove anything, its 1950s doctor recommended. He must have had problems becuse he is a bad man, not because of anything related to football, which is safe and does not cause any kind of brain damaged.
January 2nd, 2022 at 4:53 PM ^
Good call. Here is a good video showing the differences in his demeanor before and after that hit...
January 2nd, 2022 at 3:43 PM ^
AB remembered what Vontae Davis and Vince Young did and said hold my beer.
However, it’s hard to blame someone for losing their mind when they are forced to watch the Jets for 3 hours.
Considering how thin the Bucs are at WR, him bailing on the team may have wrecked their hopes of repeating.
January 2nd, 2022 at 6:09 PM ^
What did Vince Young do?
January 2nd, 2022 at 6:40 PM ^
January 2nd, 2022 at 7:33 PM ^
VY had a sideline meltdown and quit mid-game back in 2010 when the Titans were playing the Redskins. He would never play another down for the Titans.
Vince was another guy with a long list of wild behavior if you look him up - from multiple bar fights, almost retiring after his award-winning rookie year, refusing to come back into games (it happened more than once), talking about killing himself after being substituted etc. I think there was a police chase in Nashville around the same time too but that may have been a rumor. He also has pretty notorious money problems due to very poor decisions like taking out a $2M high-interest loan while already in debt so he could have a lavish birthday and other issues.
January 3rd, 2022 at 10:58 AM ^
Supposedly he would purchase every seat on a southwest flight so he could fly solo as a flex. Except airlines oversell flights in case there are open seats or rebook missed flights so it was just him and like 12 others on the plane instead.
Could just be urban legend though
January 3rd, 2022 at 3:17 PM ^
Word on the street is that they still lost his bags.
January 2nd, 2022 at 3:44 PM ^
Many of us have struggled privately with mental health issues. Others of us have watched helplessly as loved ones battled. Unfortunately, this country has a SERIOUS problem with providing help for those who need it. Yet, here is a man who clearly is fighting some type of mental health issue, and I can only hope he finds a healthy peace or the help he needs.
It's easy to dislike AB as an entertainer, but this has clearly passed the entertainment point.
January 2nd, 2022 at 3:53 PM ^
Unfortunately, you can only help someone who wants to be helped until they do something a lot worse than simply being erratic in behavior.
Family and friends are often in a very difficult position when the person with issues simply refuses to accept offers of help or even refuses to acknowledge there even is an issue. I've seen this in my extended family, and really parents can be put in situations where the choice is - accept that the person will do what they do or cut them loose and risk having them end up destitute and homeless.
With AB that may not be an immediate risk, but you have the added element that he's likely surrounded by a good number of people who are only there because he pays them to be there. I don't think they are in a position to help because they're in no position to talk frank or freely with him.
January 2nd, 2022 at 3:55 PM ^
Unfortunately the current state of our culture is not helping...so much time indoors behind screens, so little in person face to face interaction, not enough time outside, not enough physical activity, so much instant gratification, so little patience, so many substances to alter our moods, and so much divisive tribalism. It can be hard for some to find piece of mind, acceptance, and a sense of self worth derived from something positive.
January 2nd, 2022 at 4:40 PM ^
I agree with some of this.
Social media has definitely not helped.
But, not enough physical activity issues, little patience, substances, and tribalism have been around since the dawn of time. I could argue things were worse back then with some of those. People in the 60s and 70s were doing shit with hard drugs just as much as people are now. Cigarette use has gone WAY down.
The physical activity stuff has only gotten better in terms of modern medicine, recovery, training, etc. Obesity sucks, but there are so many factors going into that metric.
January 2nd, 2022 at 5:17 PM ^
IMO everything got significantly worse when the vast majority of folks had smart phones, somewhere around 2012. Depression and suicide rates reflect this. Its addictive nature and the accessibility of the internet has drastically reduced physical activity and time outside the house more than ever before despite modern science and exercise equipment and facilities. When I was kid in the 80s and 90s I played outside until it was dark when weather allowed. There may have been large issues in the past that divided us, but we've never been able to communicate our thoughts about them so quickly and we've never had to face the people we disagreed with in person less.
January 2nd, 2022 at 9:56 PM ^
Holy crap, you are so far from the truth I'm almost wondering if you're being facetious. People had to be physically active just to put food on the table and survive up until the last hundred or so years. Obesity was almost non existent before the 20th century. We now have a society where you can literally order a 3,000 calorie meal while sitting on your couch, without even talking to someone. People used to live with one another and had no choice but to work together and talk and spend intimate time with each other. Modern medicine has had a lot of positive effects but improving our lifestyles is not one of them.
January 2nd, 2022 at 11:59 PM ^
The obesity rate is far in excess of any since records have been kept, people (even young kids) spend many hours a day in front of screens, the military says few young people of military age can pass the physical,... The data is overwhelming.
January 2nd, 2022 at 9:59 PM ^
This problem has exploded in the last two years. Children are committing suicide at a 50% higher rate today than they were at the beginning of 2020. Death from recreational drug overdose has skyrocketed. The average life expectancy has dropped by almost 2 years. I'm beginning to think the Amish had it right all along.
January 2nd, 2022 at 10:05 PM ^
or what i call 'the electric amish'. not a guarantee, but early returns are promising.
January 2nd, 2022 at 10:28 PM ^
I've been thinking about this a lot. If the apocalypse does happen and society collapses, they are the only ones who will make it unscathed, lol.
January 3rd, 2022 at 9:54 AM ^
Except they don't believe in violence. Which means we who live next door to a whole community of them are going to steal their shit when we get hungry if someone else doesn't beat us to it first.
January 3rd, 2022 at 10:30 AM ^
ohh. cold as ice.
they are peaceful people, no doubt. have done business with them for years. they have their problems, too, but their desire to keep their kids from getting torn up in the world is understandable. none of us would go that far, but the general idea is easy to agree with.
time to tell my favorite amish story. we are leaving one of their farms, having just dropped off a few hundred chickens. prior to leaving we toured their barn - unbelievably large and beautiful plow horses. anyway, we are driving out and one of my sons says, 'daddy, i saw something in the barn' and i'm thinking he'll remark about the incredible horses. nope. son says, 'i saw an electric drill!'
January 3rd, 2022 at 10:50 AM ^
Tbh I have always been a tad suspicious that you are actually Amish and you hide a smartphone underneath the seat in your horse drawn carriage so you can get on mgoblog when no one is looking, lol.
I think people misunderstand that the Amish banish things that distract them from their communities and families or could cause them to sin. Of course I don't know all the nuances but to me, the image of a dozen or more men working on building a barn together is the essence of what they've got right. When your community can come together to help each other, and you all carry mostly the same values or at the very least mutual respect, you'll never be alone. You'll have family friends to help you through your problems. They teach their kids the value of self sustenance and life skills. There is a reason so many of them return to Amish life after Rumspringa.
January 3rd, 2022 at 11:41 AM ^
you laugh, but when i was building in the UP i had buddies help me pretty regularly. i was building our barn and would frame walls and the guys would show up and help me tilt (set in their upright, finished position) the walls. one day we were going to swing the trusses for the barn so i went and put an arrow in a deer, quartered it, and when they showed up the next morning to work the trusses i put a quarter in the back of each pick-up. its da yooper way, don't ya know.
there is a very, very significant faith component to what the amish do. this isn't a place to discuss it, but that is the prime motivator/justification/goal of their lifestyle.
January 3rd, 2022 at 1:54 PM ^
Honestly that is awesome thing to do for your friends. And yes I agree that there is a lot more to the Amish lifestyle that I didn't mention for obvious reasons, but that's why it's so important to build your own village, so to speak. People like you and me do it through church but there are other opportunities.
January 2nd, 2022 at 10:26 PM ^
Yeah, I didn’t dislike him so much “as an entertainer” and as much as disliking him “as a rapist,” so you won’t see any tears falling from these eyes for a some millionaire idiot.
January 3rd, 2022 at 12:40 AM ^
Well put. Thank you for your compassion! It's difficult for most to humanize gladiators but they are people.
January 3rd, 2022 at 7:20 AM ^
Are there other countries that have a model that handles it more effectively?
I agree with much of what you said, just not following the “this country” part. Most of the societal issues that seem like significant contributors would also be present elsewhere, I would think.