No fan of NC but if you need further proof the NCAA blows
September 7th, 2023 at 6:54 PM ^
TL/DR
September 7th, 2023 at 6:57 PM ^
Even leaving the mental health aspects aside, the fact that he never played at one of his previous schools because the season was canceled due to COVID should have been the deciding factor in Walker’s favor.
September 7th, 2023 at 7:00 PM ^
I think it's only fair that coaches and administrators also be limited to changing jobs once every four years.
September 7th, 2023 at 7:01 PM ^
I really can't figure this out. The student gets a year stolen from his life, when he has a very strong and compelling case.
Who benefits? "integrity"??? "competitive balance"???
#burnitdown #jtdaniels
September 7th, 2023 at 7:06 PM ^
North Carolina athletic director Bubba Cunningham said the NCAA "on eight different occasions ... had the opportunity to demonstrate it can make sound and reasonable decisions in the best interest of student-athletes based on individual circumstances. Instead, the NCAA made a maddening, frustrating and wrong decision -- for Tez, for college football and for college athletics."
So this is what it is like when an AD stands up for coaches/athletes.
Also here's another quote for some comedy:
Stephen LaPorta, the chair of the NCAA committee on legislative relief, said Thursday in a statement that the NCAA does not comment on specific cases, but he went on to say "the NCAA takes student-athlete mental health and well-being seriously."
September 7th, 2023 at 11:34 PM ^
Stephen LaPorta continued on to say, “Unless, it’s Harbaugh. Then we will comment. Fuck that guy.”
September 8th, 2023 at 3:26 PM ^
I think LaPorts-potty deserves all the shit we give him.
September 7th, 2023 at 7:08 PM ^
I believe Brian has talked extensively in the past about people just being in charge of things for no reason.
September 7th, 2023 at 7:21 PM ^
See: Corporate America
September 7th, 2023 at 10:05 PM ^
Thank you
September 8th, 2023 at 9:44 AM ^
You win the comments section.
September 8th, 2023 at 1:44 PM ^
Too soon. Until someone declares me legally dead, it will always be too soon.
September 8th, 2023 at 3:27 PM ^
But then it will immediately be too late.
September 7th, 2023 at 8:03 PM ^
Why the question mark?
Dave Brandon is the poster child for the idea that in corporate America people just being in charge of things for no reason.
September 7th, 2023 at 9:28 PM ^
The guy's avatar is Dave Brandon. Hopefully in jest.
September 7th, 2023 at 10:58 PM ^
He invented the Domino's Pizza Tracker™! He invented it! What did you ever do KBLOW??!
September 8th, 2023 at 2:00 AM ^
KBLOW invented the piano key necktie 😂
September 7th, 2023 at 9:07 PM ^
See: US government
September 9th, 2023 at 12:35 AM ^
I wish I could upvote this more than once
I have never met any manager who got promoted to be a manager because he/she know how to manage anybody or anything…myself included
September 7th, 2023 at 7:11 PM ^
I must be missing something so I hope someone more knowledgeable than me on this can help: why do the universities continue to put up with the NCAA? Why don't they all just agree the NCAA is now powerless and can't enforce anything? What do we need the NCAA for?
September 7th, 2023 at 7:21 PM ^
The NCAA organizes all of the sports that aren't football, as well as football. It maintains all of the rules. It organizes the officiating. It does a shitload of administrative things - if it wasn't around, the universities would have to organize some other organization to perform those activities.
Not saying it wouldn't be worth it, but it would disrupt a majority of athletic events for students that have very little support to begin with.
September 8th, 2023 at 8:37 AM ^
That's fine, just kick them out of organizing football. They can keep doing other sports where people are happy with what they're doing.
September 8th, 2023 at 12:15 PM ^
I think you're seeing a slow but steady build towards that with the conference realignment, particularly with the Big Ten and SEC. Heck, even the CFP is completely independent of the NCAA. Eventually, whenever those two conferences decide they are done expanding and they have the necessary resources, I do believe they will create some kind of joint effort to effectively break away from the NCAA. At least in football.
Its not happening as quickly as everyone wants it to, but I'd say within the next decade or so, the NCAA will no longer have any authority, formal or otherwise, over at least the SEC or Big Ten. I don't know about the "second tier" conferences with the Big XII and ACC, but I have to believe there are even "behind closed doors" meetings happening between the Big Ten/SEC now, laying out the groundwork for whatever the eventual governing body is that will be replacing the NCAA.
September 8th, 2023 at 1:27 PM ^
I don't have a problem with NCAA oversight and coordination of all the administrative stuff. There's probably a lot more than meets the eye considering the quantity of universities, the number of sports and the total number of student athletes. It's a big, big thing.
But I do have a problem with the decisions the NCAA makes regarding coaches and players' eligibility, discipline, etc. They're wildly inconsistent and the logic piece seems to be missing. The Harbaugh case is a bunch of dumb-fuckery, for example. If they can overhaul the panel of people or department or whatever the hell it is that is in charge of those things and start doing that better then I think most people would live in harmony with the NCAA.
September 8th, 2023 at 1:52 PM ^
So while the NCAA is responsible for a ton of administrative duties governing collegiate athletics. It has been painfully obvious they have been failing to not only do the job tasked with. They have never been ahead of on coming issues, have openly demonstrated biases for and against programs, players, coaches and have a superiority above the law, I am the law complex towards all.
This issue also resides with the University Presidents not forcing an evaluation of what is happening or to answer to anyone for what they have been doing or not doing. So left to run amuck as they see fit, we get what he have had.
NIL, this was a known issue coming on for a while. There was no secret to this. And the NCAA in typical fashion had no plan the entire time. They blinding thought they would win every court case and lost. And rather than make an appeal for time to formulate the rules, regulations and guidelines. Or better yet, have them in place for contingency in the event of a loss or to present to the courts in the first place, they just say, okay you want it that way, NIL is here, have at it kids. But we will blindly threaten programs but not uphold anything.
Then look at it's own application to rules, enforcement and how they are administered towards athletes for transfers. Programs and how they are held or not held accountable and the same for coaches.
Either the University Presidents need to hold the ncaa accountable and force them to uphold and live up to the mission. Or, they at least the p5 or others need to bring a plan of governance and applicable standards to the table and withdraw from this decrepit corrupt system!
September 7th, 2023 at 7:32 PM ^
The NCAA *is* the universities. They created it, they participate it in, they are members of it, and they agree to be bound by its decisions. Saying they "put up with it," is backwards. They constitute it.
Certainly we need some organization of member schools, for the end-of-year tournament, to have standardized rules and rule-enforcement policies, and, yes, to administer/organize intercollegiate sports.
And you know what? Whatever body we're a member of will sometimes make decisions with which we disagree (see also: the United States Congress, and the United States Supreme Court), and a great number of people will always claim it represents a conspiracy to act against us.
September 7th, 2023 at 9:23 PM ^
This right here. They grumble and groan when things go against their particular team/university but this particular example has gone down exactly they way the member schools want it to. The organization and the schools they represent want to limit player mobility.
September 8th, 2023 at 3:29 PM ^
The poor and middle class schools continue to keep these people in power because the elite schools tell them its in their best interests and they believe it. And I just broke our no politics policy.
September 8th, 2023 at 6:01 PM ^
The universities continue to put up with the NCAA because the schools ARE the NCAA. The last A in NCA is "association." It is an association of schools interested in competing in intercollegiate sports at a given level.
Any school can resign from the NCAA and thus rob it of its power over them, but then they would have to arrange with each school they play, in each sport, what the rules and procedures are for that competition.
The question isn't "why do the universities continue to put up with the NCAA?" It is "why don't the universities demand more accountability from the people that they hired to administer the NCAA for them?"
September 7th, 2023 at 7:25 PM ^
This decision is mind-boggling. Case closed.
I mean, it's worse than 4 games for a couple of cheeseburgers and a tip. I really hope the shame comes fast, heavy, and LOUD for this one - from all over the country, not just UNC. This kid got fucked dry.
September 7th, 2023 at 9:45 PM ^
#lastuseforcash
September 7th, 2023 at 7:25 PM ^
I can feel bad for the player, but I have no tolerance for hearing UNC complain about the NCAA
September 7th, 2023 at 7:26 PM ^
Excuse the French but Fuck the NCAA with a capital F. The kid should play. To be at the mercy of this relic of an organization is horrible. North Carolina should give the NCAA the finger, the kid should suit up and run onto the field on Saturday.
September 7th, 2023 at 7:34 PM ^
What would happen if he did?
what would they do?
September 7th, 2023 at 9:15 PM ^
Michigan would self impose a bowl ban. Sorry, couldn't resist
September 8th, 2023 at 8:35 AM ^
They might even suspend Harbaugh again.
September 8th, 2023 at 3:30 PM ^
Found Warde's burner account!
September 8th, 2023 at 6:06 PM ^
All the games he played in would be losses for the official NCAA record.
Could be fun to see an 0-12 team play in the CFB playoff, but NC isn't that good and all of the other bowls \have agreed to the 6-win minimum for consideration.
September 7th, 2023 at 7:36 PM ^
Wendy with the naughty words!
September 8th, 2023 at 1:26 AM ^
You would think the player could sue the NCAA now for loss of NIL and even future earnings.
September 8th, 2023 at 6:12 PM ^
One might think so, but it isn't true. The NCAA enforcing its rules as written isn't a tort. He was denied (unfairly, IMO) an exemption to the rule as written, but nothing entitles him to an exemption and so denying it creates no legal jeopardy for the NCAA.
Walker is entitled to NIL. He just isn't eligable to play.
September 10th, 2023 at 11:47 AM ^
You sound very well informed and are probably right. I know nothing about the legal state of what used to be student athletes. It does seem that with NIL there could be a law suit. By denying him the ability to play he would earn less NIL=damages. I'm not litigious, but I would sue and keep suing the NCAA if I were a student athlete. You could always sign an NIL deal with a good lawyer (ala Mike Morris) and get it done pro bono. If he was a Michigan athlete there may even be a head coach who would foot the bill...
September 7th, 2023 at 7:33 PM ^
The last sentence in Mack Brown’s response to the NCAA:
"Shame on you, NCAA. SHAME ON YOU!"
*chef’s kiss
September 7th, 2023 at 7:38 PM ^
Only upside is the constant reminder of what an incompetent and corrupt organization the NCAA is. At some point, I hope the collection of this type of nonsense moves the needle. Completely unclear to me what their justification is to continue to exist.
September 7th, 2023 at 7:46 PM ^
As an NC State and Duke alum, it’s a pretty short list of times I’ve agreed with NC, but this is one, or maybe the one. I hate the NCAA just for making me agree with them.
September 7th, 2023 at 8:00 PM ^
Meanwhile that guy for Oregon is in his ninth season of college football 🙄
September 7th, 2023 at 8:09 PM ^
It’s pretty evident that there’s some new heads at the NCAA trying to “crack down” cough cough make names for themselves. Little do they realize the entirety of our society believes they are jokes.
September 7th, 2023 at 8:29 PM ^
Feel sorry for Tez. Kudos to Mack Brown for highlighting how stupid some of these rules are. NCAA long overdue for massive reform.