The first round of the NFL draft begins at 8:00 p.m. Where will Taylor Lewan go? Who's going to be the first pick? What will the Lions do? Does Johnny Manziel get picked in the first round? Who will be this year's Tony Mandarich?
NFL Draft Day 1 open thread
Wait for this to be over. Way too much over saturation in the media airwaves on the draft. It is becoming a circus.
Turn off ESPN.
And porn to fill the void
The thing I find most ridiculous is that even when it's over, you have no idea how your team did. I don't think there's any correlation between how pleased I've been immediately after drafts and how successful the draft ultimately proved to be.
There are a few things that seem kind of obviously good (e.g., the Patriots taking advantage of other teams' shortsightedness by trading for future picks) or obviously bad (e.g., being on the other side of those deals). Beyond that, I walk away from just about everything thinking "Who the hell knows?"
the Patriots draft has been bad the last few years.
I think that this year is exactly how it will continue to be in the future. More attention, more money, more fan interest, more expectations from college football players, more social media... it all adds up to a bigger and bigger circus from what I can see. So sayeth my Magic 8 Ball.
There is some truth here I think. This year has a record number of Juniors declaring for the draft and I can't remember exactly but something like double the number from just 4-5 years ago.
time ago that sports are more enjoyable when you turn off the talking heads.
So so true. living without ESPN this past year has been wonderful. So much less stress, I don't find myself infuriated with strangers, etc. etc.
The only thing I watch on ESPN is GameDay and the football games. I can't stand anything else they broadcast.
It has BECOME a circus.
ESPN sold their souls when they signed that NFL contract. They were already going towards the mainstream TMZ reporting that we see today, but they still had a little bit of integrity "old ESPN" to them. Now? Nope.
I always laugh (and cry) that on Monday's...you NEVER see anything college football related unless you watch ESPNU. Nothing on ESPN or ESPN2. NOTHING on Sportscenter.
They'll recap a Rams/Titans 10-7 game before they talk about a matchup of 2 top 5 teams in CFB. And then when they're done...they'll start previewing Monday Night Football.
It's gross. It's disgusting what ESPN has come.
All they do is pimp their own TV personalites and talk NFL.
Unfortunately, they don't have any real competitor...just like MTV went away from anything music related and there was nothing to pick up the slack. ESPN is now TMZ Sports/The REAL NFL Network and MTV is E! Teen.
BTN tries, ESPNU tries, NBC and CBS try. But no one has the machine like ESPN.
I remember when Saturday night and Sunday morning you could get highlights of games outside of the Top 25. They were only like 30 seconds, but ESPN would basically show every college football game in the country. Now they show 6.
So even when they do talk about CFB, they talk about the same 6 teams over and over and over. Even Gameday sucks now except for the crowd signs and Tom Rinaldi's amazing voice.
Zero of that will happen.
I believe the first pick and this year's complete bust are one and the same -Clowney. He will get 1-3 sacks this year and really get disheartened by the fact that everyone else works harder than he ever will. Taylor will be the second-third tackle off the board and go top ten; I say Atlanta or Buffalo. I think the Lions pick Dennard. Manziel will go.... I am thinking that dude is either a Raider or a Cowboy. Will recent whiffs on QB's scare the Raiders away? I think the Browns are putting out a smoke screen and they aren't interested. You can't trust any info from the coaches this time of year... My Colts don't get a pick until Friday late, so I will pretend to hear Trent Richardson's name around pick 26 tonight.
The Raiders traded for Matt Schaub and they have Pryor as their developmental flyer.... I don't see them using a first round pick on a quarterback.
I agree that Clowney doesn't rate the #1 pick. People got all hyped up about the V. Smith hit, forgetting the part where 98% of unblocked D-linemen would've made the same hit.
Pryor is on the Seahawks now.
I confused him with Matt McGloin. The similarities are so eerie, you can see how anyone would've made that mistake.
Also, Cloney probably won't be tackling RBs in the NFL that are 5'6" and 165lbs.(V. Smith)
Darren Sproles disagrees.
I hope the Browns take Watkins
I do too but according to Tony Grossi it's Mack or nothing. He said if he's gone when the Browns pick they'll trade out of the slot with either Atlanta (if they havent made the move to get to #1) or Detroit. He said they dont want a QB at 4 and dont want Watkins or any of the O linemen. He said if they move back they will do so to try and get a DB (maybe Dennard) and an additional 2nd.
We'll see. Here in Cleveland it's SUPER BOWL THURSDAY baby.
But very true, I look forward to this day every year, and every year I am left with a feeling of disappointment.
Doesn't Mack play basically the same position as Mingo? Can you have two pass rushing OLBs on the field at the same time?
According to Grossi they are not exactly overwhelmed with Mingo.
Even in football season we don't get open game threads TWELVE HOURS before the event starts
Yeah, well there aren't trades before and 24-hour coverage of Michigan games, either.
I agree with Turd that you don't really know how a team did for a while (sometimes it takes years for draftees to pan out), but I still find it really interesting and exciting. To see what teams' needs are, how they approach drafting philosophy (e.g., best available v. for positional need), not to mention this is basically an introduction for a lot of smaller conference players. I'm guessing I'm not the only person who had never seen Mack play a game with Buffalo.
As to Magnus's questions:
I think Lewan will be the 3rd tackle taken and go in the mid-to-late teens.
I think the Lions' moves will be very dependent on if they can get a trade worked out; if they can trade up for Watkins for relatively cheap (e.g., their 2nd round pick), I think they do it, otherwise they'll go OLB at 10. Personally, I'd like to see them pick up a FS, ideally Clinton-Dix or Pryor out of Louisville, but that doesn't seem like a common prediciton so I'm guessing that won't happen.
Manziel will defintely go in the first. Not sure to who, as I see 5 teams in the top ten in need of a new QB (i.e., Jags, Browns, Raiders, Bucs, & Vikings) that could potentially pick one in the first. Someone will pull the trigger on him, but I'm not sure who.
I don't know enough about all the prospects to really identify a potential Mandarich, but I think there are some risky picks that will definitely get picked up. I think Barr out of UCLA (a potential Lions pick) is a big risk given his rawness and recent position switch. Any of the smaller conference guys (e.g., Mack out of Buffalo) are always a question, given competition level. There are obvious concerns about each of the "top-tier" QB prospects, with Manziel's style of play, Bridgewater's size, etc. So, I guess the obvious choice is a small school QB (e.g., Carr, Bortles) not panning out.
The Lions will draft
somebody who plays football
you should dial back your expectations just a bit.
Sounds like you were a little too involved in the Wednesday night drinking thread. Let's try to tone it down a bit and be happy with drafting a concession stand worker in the first round.
I think we'd be better off picking up a free agent to fill that void. I hear the Tigers released someone recently. Just as long as no fans ask for katsup on their hot dog....
Don't tell me what I can or cannot put on my hot dog. I'm glad his ass is fired. His singing sucked too. Only the woman who go to one game a year like him.
Why start now?
they've given tryouts to a rugby player and a track star. Who knows, maybe this is the year they test the badminton market? With the 10th pick of the 2014 NFL Draft, the Detroit Lions select, Joe Wilson, doubles, BYU.
I don't think Lewan will be there when my Giants pick. I think we go the next best OL available and that's Notre Dame's Zack Martin.
Big Blue!? Didn't realize this was a Kentucky blog! /s
the reference was made for the Giants...possibly?
Your BG avatar is bad luck. I've been hearing a lot of how he's been a busy on Philly sports radio :(
Yeah, he hasn't seemed happy there, either. I think a change of scenery might be good for him. He hasn't been terrible, but they've been doing some different things with him and he just doesn't fit. He'd be better off somewhere like Dallas or Pittsburgh or Miami, in my opinion.
Magnus - did you see that Kiper's final Big Board has Taylor as the #5 player overall?? That was a pretty big move IMO - I had not seen him rated that highly before. I think he's going in the Top Ten - 2nd lineman selected after Robinson but before Mathews.
I think last week he said that he didn't think Lewan would drop past #6 overall.
As long as the Lions don't trade up early, I'll be happy. There will be somebody that can help them at the #10 pick. Now if they want to trade back into the later part of the first round if somebody they want falls, I'm okay with that.
My prediciton for the Lions at #10 is OLB Anthony Barr from UCLA. I think Atlanta trades up to take Clowney #1, since they seem completely in love with him. I think Manzeil goes either #7 to the Bucs or #8 to the Vikings. And I'm thinking Lewan goes to the Bills at #9.
Anthony Barr doesn't really seem to fit what the Lions do, but maybe I'm wrong.
Sit in the corner in the fetal position, rocking myself for comfort, crossing all my fingers and toes, repeating nonstop:
please no wide receiver
please no wide receiver
please no wide receiver
please no wide receiver....
So how would you feel about pairing Sammy Watkins with Megatron? Undoubtedly you'd have to trade up and give up a lot to get him, but having those two on the field would undoubtedly give you the best WR tandem in the NFL.
"having those two on the field would undoubtedly give you the best WR tandem in the NFL."
That and $5 will get you a footlong at Subway.
Having the best WR tandem in the NFL typically doesn't lead to Super Bowl champagne baths.
Did he have "the best" or did his accuracy make them great?
To your point, let's count his Super Bowl wins.
I think that this year a young WR who could be a great addition to the Lions offense, the visual you just created made me literally laugh out loud. The Millen Years certainly have done severe damage to Detroit fans over the year...like a dog that is used to getting slapped all the time.
Would the Lions take Odell Beckham Jr.? I would feel alright with that selection if they don't land Watkins and want a WR right away.
That's too high to take Beckham, in my opinion. They might be able to trade down and still get him.
draftniks are convinced the 49ers are going to use their array of picks to trade up to take OBJ. If the Lions really do want him, they might have to pull the trigger at 10, although I agree that probably is too high for his talent level.
could be taken at top 10-15. Not too high if that's the case.
Not sure what I want as a Bucs fan. Do you take the safer, more conventional pick in Mike Evans and give yourself two towering receivers to play with in both him and Vincent Jackson? That's what I'd probably do, but apparently Lovie is in love with Manziel. Not sure how I feel about him since I don't think his style would work in the NFL, but we've never had a franchise QB. Ever. And he'd actually give Tampa some spotlight for once. We haven't had any of that since Warren Sapp was skipping along the sidelines.
It would surprise me if Lovie Smith hitched his wagon to Manziel because he did a pretty good job with good defense and a running game in Chicago. Of course, maybe he thinks the lack of a dynamic QB was what sunk him with the Bears, but it seems like a departure from his personality.
As long as the Lions don't trade up picks by using Suh I suppose it would be hard for them to screw up too badly. There's no way in the world that Watkins = Suh + Gilbert/Dennard/Clinton-Dix/Barr/Evans.
I think there are 30 players in attendance which means several of them will not be picked in the first round. They will get close camera shots of the disapointment and anxiety on these guys' faces, and I never enjoy that part of how they cover this event. My other pet peeve is when the latter rounds start and no one on radio or TV bothers to actually talk about who is being picked or how they might help the team who's drafting. They just blab on endlessly while you search the ticker info for some help... Funny that the producer thinks the latter rounds aren't interesting enough to talk about, and yet there are plenty of fanatics out there like me who watch the whole thing every year. We don't tune in to hear you constantly yap about the first round for 3 days!
I still remember the commissioner taking Brady Quinn to a room, off camera, because he was visibly frustrated.
I see the OTs going 2, 6 and 9. So, depending on how GMs have Lewan ranked, I see him going to one of those three picks.
I'd bet Robinson is going first of the three of them. That's how he's mocked on just about every draft board, and he seems to have the most upside, but it seems like Lewan and Matthews are somewhat interchangeable with the 2 and 3 spots.
coming to Atlanta, my new home town. Would be nice if it happened!
You must've really wanted to be the one to start the draft thread
It's way more interesting to me than a Wednesday night drinking thread or the price of Illinois season tickets.
I placed a rather large bet on when Johnny Manziel would be drafted. The O/U was at 4.5 overall. I obviously took the over for -110 odds. Not bad.
I don't know man... pretty much banking that Oakland takes him at 4. I don't know if that's a -110 bet, but good luck!
As much fun as it would be to see him slip in the draft, I don't want him available when the Cowboys pick comes up. The media would go crazy with that one and we'd never hear the end of it.
Haha to the lions plz!!
Alright, time to go on record: I think the Lions take Aaron Donald. They're looking at a very real possibility of having to replace both Suh and Fairley next year and I think they will look at cornerback and safety as positions that don't have that much bottom-out potential. Mayhew has a history of not really agreeing with the pundits about the team's bigger needs, which is why he's done things like draft Fairley and Ansah and sign Bush. Barring a trade, I say Donald in the 1st and a WR in the 2nd.
Defensive line is the new wide receiver.
but I can't remember a draft with this much uncertainty about what the Lions would do. Move up, move down or pick from multiple position groups.
The Niners are one of the most interesting teams in this year's draft. They have 11 picks overall and 6 in the first three rounds. I am betting they move up and grab Mike Evans.
For round one, here are my preferences as an Eagles fan:
1. Ha Ha - we need a safety badly
2. Barr - pass rusher also a big concern
6. None of those available, trade down
Can't wait for them to show the Vincent Smith hit a thousand times when Clowney is picked.
I'm driving to virginia for a graduation. Any suggestions on an app to use to track the draft?
I hope you're not actually, you know, driving while trying to use an app.
You're lying if you never MGoBlog and drive, Magnus.
It's true. I'm too busy playing drums on my steering wheel and head banging to Avril Lavigne to visit MGoBlog.
I took the first shift so I get to just ride. But I'm Bout to lurch going through these mts. FYI confederate flag count now at 37. Our over under was 100.
Makes to me...it's what I would do. O'Brien knows him, he's been in the Pats system long enough. He's from Texas.
I'd do it.
Give up a 2nd rounder for him and get Clowney and Mallett? Whoooo, hell of a first day for the Texans.
It makes sense from O'Brien's perspective. I'm not sure if it does for the Patriots. They have to get something worthwhile for him, but the Texans probably wouldn't offer much since they know the Patriots don't gain a lot by letting him sit on the bench.
Can they get him off the TV and quit kissing his ass now?
The intro needed more pomp and circumstance.
Clowney hit..... DRINK!
Adjust the mic, Barry!