From what I understand the (much maligned) student section really got their act together and showed up in force for warm-ups. Any confirmation from those whom were there. Was this an organized effort, a la Maize Rage?
Most Improved Unit. Student Section?
It was the result of GA. There's been an awful lot of complaining on both this board and social media about leaving tailgates early, meaning people were showing up on time.
Good. What they hopefully start to realize is that they didn't leave early, they left when they were supposed all along. You can find a lot of places to drink. Only one place to watch Michigan Football LIVE. I was very happy too see a 90% filled student section at kickoff yesterday on BTN.
And you can drink any day of the year. You can only attend a home M game seven times in 2013.
Ok, so if we got there when we were supposed to then why wasn't the rest of the stadium aroound 70% full at around 50 minutes before kickoff? I mean I guess fans are "supposed" to be there that early.
Have to pee sometime in the hour( or earlier) that you got to your seats and when the game starts? Too bad, you leave your seat and its as good as gone.
GA made the block M a total fail too. I was sitting in it and saw tons of people sit there long enough to get a free shirt before moving off to sit somewhere else the minute they got that shirt. I couldn't really even see the block M whenever they did a stadium shot.
You could never see the Block M in previous years anyways...so not really a big deal.
How old is the picture? I don't remember seeing it during my time here at Michigan these past 4 seasons.
I was part of the Block M we did against Wisconsin in 2008 which I believe is that picture. It was pretty cool and yeah I had no idea we were trying to do a Block M this year.
Your parents and elders never did anything that smart and that well-executed in Michigan Stadium.
Your parents and elders never did anything that smart and that well-executed in Michigan Stadium.
It wasn't an organized effort at all, just the effect of GA seating apparently. I'm a student and quite frankly I was shocked at how well it worked. Last year, the student section would be maybe 1/3 full 10 minutes before kickoff, and fill up throughout the first quarter. This would lead to embarassing shots of the student section midway through the first quarter with a solid fourth of it empty.
When I showed up an hour and a half before kickoff, it was already almost half full, and it was completely packed by kickoff. Students far outpaced non-students in getting to the game, as it should be.
Living in TN, and having to watch most games on TV --- the student section looked great in HD for once. Always was embarrassing the last few years to have it half full at kickoff. It was great seeing a packed house. Seemed like an electric atmosphere at kickoff for a game vs Central.
sounds like we need GA for alumni!
The students did a really good job of showing up on time and in force. I am shocked at how the day, and the GA plan, all went.
But the student sections were half-empty halfway through the Fourth Quarter. I was trying to figure out where everybody was going; what other game was there to watch? Tigers? Clemson or Detroit?
One thing that was noticeable was the chunk of what I think is Section 33 at the top, that was carved out of student seating, for paid-public seating. Those seats got filled up on time, and the people mostly stayed to the end.
I personally always stay through the game, but you can't honestly tell me you think it's somehow unreasonable that students, with busy schedules, exhausted after being outside on their feet all day partying and cheering (much more enthusiastically than the alumni) in the hot sun for hours upon hours, would want to leave a 50-point blowout early? I know it's written in your contract somewhere that you have to find something to complain about in every thread, but come on dude.
plus Dave Brandon, and the rest of the 100,000+ fans who were mostly there to the end, would all call the students' (and there were a LOT of them) early departure "weak."
If students are physically unable to remain for an entire football game, they might want to start thinking about pacing themselves. Drink some water or something. Sit down a bit during the games, if it wears them out so badly.
Exactly when is it that students who arrive late and/or leave early are going to quit lecturing to the rest of the Michigan Stadium patrons (who do a much better job of filling up the Stadium for the duration of games) about proper fandom?
If you think there are 100,000+ at the end I cannot help you. The entire stadium was about 60% full after our last TD. I remember having a fair amount of leg room the last 10 minutes and this was in section 40 row 18.
Dude give it up. It obvious you have bias against students.
It's not a big deal to me; ordinarily, I'd just observe how empty the student sections are at the beginning/end of games and leave it at that. It's no problem to me in the slightest, what students decide to do.
I only get chapped when students logged on to the MGoBoard start telling the alumni what sort of fans they ought to be, how muchy they need to stand up in front of other people and what deficient fans the alumni are. And then with that provocation, I'll add just a bit of spice to the routine ordinary observations.
Of course the Stadium was emptying out late in the game. I stayed to the end like I almost always do. And I saw many people leaving. But the student sections were clearly the most empty part of the Stadium by the end of the game. By far, and earlier than anywhere else.
Fair enough. I apologize for coming off brash. I find it annoying when individuals rail into the students for unfair reasons. It was a blowout. You can hardly expect everyone to stay the entire game. People were leaving my section left and right. The game turned into a glorified spring game scrimmage.
I agree with you. It is unfair when students criticize alumni and other fans some of them are so fickle.
There were at least 5 things that were common in years past, in the student section:
- Bringing in alcohol . . . even coolers with beer!!
- Bringing in pot . . . I remember the pungent blue haze hovering over the student section in the 70's.
- Bringing in beach balls and batting them around.
- Throwing rolls of toilet paper down on to the field every time there was a TD.
- Passing a girl up the stands, one girl for every point scored.
Now, I'm not commenting at all on the wisdom of any of these activities. But all I'm saying is there were multiple things to keep some of the students occupied through the end. If you had a cold beer, or a joint, or could be part of the crew passing girls up the stands from bottom to the top, or could bat a beach ball, or toss TP only the field, there were numerous things to keep you occupied. Those days are long gone. Now you can watch the game, jingle keys, listen to the band, and that's it. The experience is safer and cleaner, but a lot more . . . antiseptic. I never drank or smoked in the stands, but the student ambiance was a bit different back in the day.
With a case of Little Kings on my shoulder freshman year.
Nothing could go wrong allowing students to bring as many as 24 small glass projectiles into the stadium! Strangely enough I don't remember any issues with anything being thrown - except TP - back then.
The beach balls still happen.
and marshmallow fights, until they banned them because of the synthetic turf.
to be able to filter out comments based on individual posters/mods because my engagement generally declines as soon as you post anything primarily due to your bitchy tone
you always find something to complain about. Nevermind the every other section was 50-60% empty after the baby seal clubbing was in full effect. I stayed the entire game, but started paying more attention to the Tigers game on my phone.
I call BS on the top section 33. That section was completely empty halfway through the 4th. Not sure what game you attended.
Alumni not only paid full price (in addition to their "donation") but were there to watch the students arrive and wonder why so many of them were leaving early.
over your head i see...your image fits
GA seating worked. Pregame was a lot louder than I remember it ever being.
had more to do than anything else.
3:30pm start and classes start next week.
I'll reserve judgment on the GA policy until a few more games have past (particularly if we losea game).
Definitely. This was a huge improvement from last year. The only game last year where it was this full at kickoff was MSU.
Good to see. GA obviously helped quite a bit; just because you are a senior or a FRATSTAR doesn't mean you should receive preferential treatment in seating. Expect a huge turnout next week.
They need to really think more seriously about the logistics of GA seating. It was terrible, giant cluster f***. For the entire 1st quarter, stragglers coming into the stadium were struggling to find seating. My guess is that there is an empty seat here or there, with 80 some rows across the entire student section, that really add up.
Nice to have everyone there on time, but I feel like the 90% of students who use to show up on time are being punished for the 10% that would come in 5 minutes late. Last time I checked, the students, just like the alumni and general public, paid American dollars for their tickets and should have the same rights to an assigned seat as everyone else.
If you think any of those numbers concerning the state of the student section the past coulple of years are in any way accurate, you need a few math courses.
I agree 100%
The GA obviously worked, but ushers were absolutely useless and had no idea what was going on. People kept walking through our seats like they were stairs. It was wildly frustrating.
80 year old men who know where your seat is and that's it. They provide zero value as it doesn't take a rocket scientist to find your seat.
If the student section had actually been 100% full and 90% on time last year, like you claim, you wouldn't have GA seating. The AD didn't just put it in for the hell of it.
You can argue that GA isn't the best solution, but you can't deny there was a problem. Student attendance was embarrassing last year and everyone else involved - including the players and coaches - was frustrated about it.
Student sec was full before I got to my seat. And they where loud the whole game. I was impressed!
In an aftergame interview, I believe even Hoke himself said that enjoyed seeing students filling up the student section for warm-ups as well, so the effort did not go unnoticed even by the staff. That's great to hear from the people for whom we cheer on Saturday.
Because I'm taking a less popular opinion, I feel the need to defend myself before the attacks start: I usually/always walk with the band and cheerleaders from Raveli hall to the stadium and am in my seats typically 35-45 minutes before kick off. Let the onslaught begin...
Get to my seat early, or walk with the cheerleaders... Great choice, I am jealous! Oh yeah, plus The Band?
I know the very front typically leads that which would normally be senior and grad students. Since it's probably a lot of freshman, sophs, and juniors now, did we sucessfully execute a wave yesterday?
It took a while to get going and we never got to do all the different types. The normal, slow, and fast were the only ones the happened.
the split started but died before intersecting in the SE corner, due to action on field and the marching band playing The Victors.
it took about 8 tries before the wave got beyond the student section. they got the order of operations right, but the execution wasn't superb.
The wave effort was a bit weak. One regular, then slow, then fast and done. My son made the comment to me that it didn't seem as good as previous years. Didn't think about why, hope it gets better as the season progresses.
Maybe there should be some kind of organized student leadership like there is for the Maize Rage. Have them make little flyers explaining the cheers and the forms of the Wave to the freshmen and pass them out before the game.
If you haven't noticed there are a few more students at football games than at basketball games. Trying to get anything organized on that kind of scale would be a nightmare.
It doesn't have to be that hard. Organize the student section as an official student group and have them create a facebook page explaining how the cheers go, or work with the AD to distribute a little flyer explaining the cheers with their student tickets.
I was toward the front of the section trying to start the wave. It did take a while to get going, but once it did it seemed to go smoothly. The only reason the wave stopped after going slow then fast was that the team scored a touchdown. The band started a rousing chorus of The Victors and the wave died there.
I was in the student section but there was no organized effort. Probably it being the opener helped.
Student section turnout was great, but the most improved unit was still the offensive line. Loved seeing the push they got, and blockers getting to the second level.
I got to the Big House about an hour and a quarter before the game. I would guess that with 30 minutes to go, the student section was about half full, maybe a bit more, but filled up nicely as game time approached.
I don't want to be a Debbie downer, but part of the student section has shrunk as the upper 20 or so rows, give or take, are now for the general public..
Why are we congratulating students for showing up? When I went to school, back in the dark ages, we managed to show up for games relatively close to the start time. Let's see what happens later in the season when the weather changes before I would consider a change in attitude.
As for leaving early, I rarely do that, but yesterday, the game had reached the point where it was boys against men, and I do not find that enjoyable. I can't wait until we have nine B1G games and would welcome three games against top competition, even if we lost one along the way. It is an expensive weekend for many of us out-of-towners to come to a game, and when I do, I want to see quality contests.
Student section looked GREAT and sounded great on TV. And it was FULL! That was a pleasant surprise.
It's nice to have a student section for pre-game unlike the last few years.
It looked really good on tv, I think the afternoon kickoff had alot to do with it.
but they seemed far less active/rowdy than usual imo. Anyone else think so?
they sounded good in the first 5 mins but CMU never had a chance. Save the cheering for the ND game.
Football and beer go together like America and football. Y'all might judge students for our party-style tailgating but it is a factor in rowdiness whether you'll admit it or not. Plus, all those kids in the front third were standing around for a couple hours in the heat.
Football + Beer = America + Football....so...
Beer = America
Yea less rowdy for sure. Part of the problem was that there were so many freshmen in the closer rows that had no clue what to do. They didn't know chants, or when to get loud, etc. I swear there was a 3rd down when we were on defense and everyone around me was sitting down.
earlier, but they are even worse at doing the wave this year. They started by trying to split it from section 29 or so. I think we might be at the point where 2-3 years have gone by without a consistent wave and very few kids know what to do anymore.
Unpopular opinion, but as a senior who couldn't go, I loathed seeing all the freshmen up front on tv.
I'm a current Junior, some comments:
-I got there about an hour early, ended up in section 30, row 29. Was fine by me. Was still able to get a solid 4 hours of pregaming/drinking in.
-Holy Freshmen batman. I was surrounded by them. Sadly a lot of them didn't seem very interested in the game, there were big clusters of them sitting down and looking at their phones. My friend and I were the only ones standing up in my immediate area after a timeout when play resumed, which irritated me. Ended up yelling at them to stand the eff up.
-I agree with the sentiment that the section wasn't as loud/rowdy, at least where I was. Probably again has to do with the large Freshmen numbers.
This is the first year in history where even so much as a text reliably goes through, at least on AT&T.
I agree that football is all- consuming and would refuse texts on any other subject, but my former football companion and tutor must now watch the game from the comfort of a dorm room in Maryland, so it was really swell to be able to share the game with him.
Also I can track the stats line and the scotes of other games via apps, so yay that.
...but got into section 26, went up to the top row under the press box/suites, then scooted over into section 25. Ended up about 20 yd. line, solid view.
Have meetings until 5 pm for UTL II, am terrified where I'm going to end up. The problem will be like at a sold out movie--lots of single seats here and there, but not enough for a group.
Also, you know when its packed you pretty much have to stand sideways. Without an actual seat, how does one squeeze in now? I'm expecting chaos next week.
I'm interested to see what happens next week. Last time during UTL, the student section was so full that people just stood in the aisles for most of the game. Seems like some stuff could go south pretty quick with the new policy, but we'll see
Got myself a student ticket to scope out the situation (it's more fun, anyway). I was surprised at how well it went. I expected a tremendous bottleneck, but things were quite efficient. The cattle corral had dissolved by at least an hour before the game, when I came in, and there was little to no wait to get in. We were assigned sections at the gate, which was not to my liking, but we were able to get good seats where we liked.
The sections were pretty well full by a half hour before kickoff. I was up in the ~50s rows, and the people around us were generally loud, knew what to do, etc. Can't speak for the youngin's in the lower rows, but that's a shame if they were less enthusiastic due to 1) being young and ill informed 2) standing in the sun for 4 hours without social lubricant (e.g. libation) to get primed 3) ???
My only real complaint, personally, is that I like to follow the band into the stadium and I don't think I would have gotten a good seat at all if I did that -- for the season opener, a notoriously poor student-turnout game, it's one thing. For a marquee game? Forget it. Which is a shame -- that is really a great part of the #gamedayexperience. Better to have a noodle than a drum cadence, then? So be it. Pasta et circenses!
It was alright. I think next week will be a mess though.It was hectic enough when people were assigned a seat 2 years ago,I can't imagine what it will be like next week.
before game time and it was great to see the student section getting full during warm ups. By the time the band went on the field the place was packed. The students did a great job.