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January 27th, 2011 at 10:17 AM
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Michigan offers 2012 QB

I realize that 2011 signing day is still several days away, but Brady Hoke took time this week to offer a QB target for 2012 so I thought we should acknowledge it.

Zeke Pike

Ht: 6-5 Wt: 225 40: 4.7

Position: QB, LB
Year: Class of 2012
High School: Dixie Heights HS
(Ft Mitchell, KY)

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  Rushing Passing
Year Att Yds Avg TD PA PC Pct Yds TD Int
2010 (Jr.) 181 1,072 5.9 17 235 136 58.0 2,218 18 -
2009 (So.) - - - - 175 100 57.0 1,634 17 5

Offers from:

Alabama, Arkansas, Auburn, Clemson, Florida, Georgia, Iowa, Kentucky, Louisville, North Carolina, Oklahoma State, Penn State, Tennessee, Texas A&M, USC, West Virginia, Boston College, Cincinnati, Indiana, Pittsburgh, Purdue, Rutgers, and Wisconsin 

The son of former Georgia Tech and Buffalo Bill LB Mark Pike, Zeke will probable the number one Pro-Style QB prospect in the country.

“I got a call from the people at the U.S. Army All American Bowl Game yesterday, and I was told I was the first player selected for the 2012 game,” said Pike.

“Right now every team is fair game.  I visited a lot of schools this summer, but I am interested to see who is going to come see me.  I kind of have some favorites in my head, but I hope to have a list of 10 to 15 schools by February,” said Pike.  When asked if the in-state schools had an edge, Pike said, “I don’t favor them over anyone else.  I’m really open to go anywhere, and I really want to do my own thing.  In the end it will come down to where my heart is.”

Sources:

http://recruiting.scout.com/a.z?s=73&p=8&c=1&nid=4533253

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Zeke-Pike-108631

http://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/2010/quarterback-zeke-pike-2012/

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January 27th, 2011 at 10:19 AM | I hope RR didn't shred all (Score:1)
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I hope RR didn't shred all the documents telling you how to make snake oil when he left town.  I kid because I care.

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January 27th, 2011 at 11:53 AM | I don't mean to bash on RR (Score:1)
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I don't mean to bash on RR but i miss recruiting kids like this. I hope he has a little love for the winged helmets.

 

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January 27th, 2011 at 4:27 PM | I'm still holding out hope (Score:1)
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I'm still holding out hope that Denard and Devin are so great the next three/four years that they convince Hoke to totally abandon Pro-Style QBs. Nothing against this current target of course, I just love me some athletes at QB.

CSE - Class of 2012

January 27th, 2011 at 11:42 PM | Agreed, I love this kind of (Score:1)
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Agreed, I love this kind of kid big and strong and can take punishment. How can he resist the flying wing , especially if Hoke and crew can up their recruiting game next year and get it done on the field.

 
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January 27th, 2011 at 10:22 AM | Dang tough company on the (Score:1)
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Dang tough company on the offer sheet.  Hope Hoke and Co. can do work some magic here.

January 27th, 2011 at 10:22 AM | Seems like a stud and really (Score:1)
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Seems like a stud and really solid QB. He has a ton of offers too. 

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January 27th, 2011 at 10:28 AM | The way he carries the ball (Score:1)
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The way he carries the ball makes me cringe and go into a 2009 Tate Forcier flashback. Bring him on the though Hokeus Pokeus

January 27th, 2011 at 10:28 AM | Check out his rushing yards. (Score:1)
umhero
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Check out his rushing yards.  Doesn't look like he's the typical drop back  statue. 

January 27th, 2011 at 10:36 AM | I noticed that too. It would (Score:1)
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I noticed that too. It would be great to get him to Michigan, RS a year and then have him at QB for a few years.

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January 27th, 2011 at 10:32 AM | kid has offers from every (Score:1)
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kid has offers from every place in the country.  i'd love to see michigan win some real recruiting battles again.

January 27th, 2011 at 10:39 AM | Good to see Michigan going (Score:1)
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Good to see Michigan going after elite prospects earlier than with the previous staff. I wouldn't get your hopes up about Pike at this point though, he's considered the favorite to end up the #1 QB in the 2012 class and this will probably be a long recruiting process.

January 27th, 2011 at 10:42 AM | He's been to Ann Arbor (Score:1)
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He's been to Ann Arbor before..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0QQoq4thYg

January 27th, 2011 at 10:50 AM | great video thanks im (Score:1)
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great video thanks im thrilled that hes been to AA before and he looks awesome in that video. how do I give you points for this?

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January 27th, 2011 at 10:56 AM | It looks like you are unable (Score:1)
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It looks like you are unable to right now. Like mentioned below, this is something that Brian likely took out for now.

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January 27th, 2011 at 10:55 AM | (No subject) (Score:1)
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January 27th, 2011 at 11:03 AM | Thanks for the embed. Is it (Score:1)
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Thanks for the embed. Is it just me or is it kinda odd that he picks up his back (right) leg so much when he throws?  

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January 27th, 2011 at 11:18 AM | No its not jut you. thats the (Score:1)
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No its not jut you. thats the major knock against him from what Ive heard about the kid. but the good news is he has apparently worked on his footwork this year and it is improving. Plus as long as he can throw the ball that accurate it isnt too big of a deal the major concern would be it being the reason for him getting injured if he gets hit from behind or his blind side when releasing the ball. 

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January 27th, 2011 at 11:34 AM | I'll second this. If you read (Score:1)
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I'll second this. If you read interviews with him he always talks about how he is working hard at making sure his footwork is better.

 

It's not a huge deal -since in the throwing motion his weight is being transferred to his front (left) foot it shouldn't effect his throwing that much. Ideally you'd want it to toe-down drag on that back foot for ideal balance.

January 27th, 2011 at 11:52 AM | That's what I thought. I (Score:1)
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That's what I thought. I appreciate you and the person above me for telling me about him wanting to work on it. I didn't know much about him and no it's not a big deal but something that I think should be corrected.

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January 27th, 2011 at 1:37 PM | It actually kinda reminds me (Score:1)
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It actually kinda reminds me of tim tebow (i would hope he's even half as dominate as he was)

p.s.- that being said, i still can't stand tebow

January 27th, 2011 at 2:46 PM | I've noticed that too (Score:1)
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He loses all of the powers when he picked up his drive foot up too early thus rendering him as an all arm thrower which is not what you want as a coach.  Obviously, you want him to plant and drive as he throw the ball.

 


I also noticed that he has a tendency to hold the ball at chest level which is more suspectable to fumbles and has a tends to result in a low release alas John Navarre.  His delivery is a bit enlonged but not as exaggerated as Tim Tebow or Colin Kaepernick.  It needs to be compact and quick IMO.  He can get by in college level.  He has a 3/4 release which is fine with me as long as he get the ball out quick but it's coming out of his hands quick enough.

January 27th, 2011 at 3:07 PM | First thing I noticed. I (Score:1)
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First thing I noticed. I immediately looked at videos of the current greats (Manning, Brady, Brees) to compare throwing motion and this is what I can take from it: Pike has blue-chip arm-strength and sub-par footwork. If he had to start tomorrow, that combo infers an interception/sack prone drop-back QB at the next level.

Why interception prone: he's not generating power correctly in his hips and shoulders. Proper footwork transfers power from the back to front foot, and the hips should torque not unlike a batter hitting a fastball.  The nonthrowing arm should sweep with the elbow shooting down into the body with palm facing forward, squaring the shoulders towards the target receiver. This move, combined with a throwing motion that has the ball launched at the QB's scalp level (bicep parallel to ground, forearm perpendicular to bicep) provides three things (1) accuracy, (2) velocity and (3) best chance of not having the pass deflected at the line.

Why sack/fumble prone: he's not on his toes enough and constantly moving his feet. Here's a link to Manning drilling footwork. Compare to Pike.Good footwork puts the QB in a defensive position to deal with (1) a pass rush, (2) max accuracy/velocity/height on throws at all times.  That right leg kick tells me he's slow with his footwork and slow through his mechanics.  He gets hit during or before a throw, the ball is probably either getting deflected or fumbled at the next level.

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January 27th, 2011 at 6:02 PM | Peyton Manning (Score:1)
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has picture perfect delivery.  He maximized his power and accuracy with great footwork and mechanics.  He drops back quickly so he has an extra split second to survey the field.  He keeps the ball close to head level which is what you want if you want a high release point.  Peyton doesn't load too long and his delivery is very compact and fast.

 

His plant(front) leg aren't stiff and lands softly on the ball of his foot while his drive(back) legs drives it for him.  Most of your power comes from your lower body.  If your footwork is correct, your hips should follow to create torque.  More torque you create, the more power you generate.  If you do it correctly, your arm should be along for a ride then do the last second whip to create more velocity.

 

His delivery is almost picture perfect and it is nearly upright with high release point.  Peyton is 6'6" and his release point will be about a few inches higher making it nearly impossible to bat the ball down.

 

I've heard some people criticized Peyton for having a"happy" feet but I think that it's a result of Peyton's comfort zone.  Peyton moves his feet constantly to develop rhythm and to help evade pass rushers.  I don't have a problem with it but ideally, I don't want a QB to move his feet too much because he won't set his feet properly to throw the ball.

January 28th, 2011 at 7:42 AM | Yeah (Score:1)
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Saw that too.  His footwork on the dropback looks pretty great in terms of his athleticism/fluidity, but the follow-through on his throwing motion is a bit off.

Also, killer hi-top at 1:55.  Epic.

January 27th, 2011 at 11:03 AM | He sure does like throwing to (Score:1)
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He sure does like throwing to his left.  Looks Outstanding though.

January 27th, 2011 at 12:03 PM | Does anyone know who the kid (Score:1)
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Does anyone know who the kid is catching like all of his passes? He looks like he might have some good hands. We sure need a receiver like that, ya know one who can catch the damn ball!

Hail to the Victors! Go Blue!

January 27th, 2011 at 10:39 AM | I would like to point out (Score:1)
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I would like to point out that Zeke Pike is an awesome name

January 27th, 2011 at 1:29 PM | Even better would be ........ (Score:1)
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Zebulon Pike. Then after a big win all of the "Pike's Peak" puns would *really* work.

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January 27th, 2011 at 10:40 AM | Multi-tasking. Nice. (Score:1)
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Multi-tasking.

Nice.

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January 27th, 2011 at 10:40 AM | The real question is whether (Score:1)
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The real question is whether he's had bang_coeds.exe uploaded yet, a la Henne. 

Give me a robot QB any day. Does he seriously have 18 passing TDs and no ints? I don't know whether that - means 0 or unknown.

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January 27th, 2011 at 2:46 PM | Thank god he didn't walk (Score:1)
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Thank god he didn't walk here. We would be a few days behind!

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January 27th, 2011 at 10:43 AM | wow (Score:1)
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first off i like the fact that hoke is already making plays for big time players while still finishing strong for the current year. 

secondly this kid seems like a good fit for the future of the qb position here. i like it, and i like the forward thinking byt the coaching staff

 

----as a side note or question, is anyone else not seeing how to vote up or down other comments anymore? 

January 27th, 2011 at 10:48 AM | I'm sure that's part of the (Score:1)
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I'm sure that's part of the functionality that was yanked while the malware issues were sorted out. Per Brian, that stuff will be phased back in gradually with lots of testing so it doesn't pop up again.

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January 27th, 2011 at 10:46 AM | glad to see were already thinking about 2012a (Score:1)
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kid sounds like a good mix between gardner and mallett.  I agree with ish it would be really nice to see us go up against all the big schools and get a huge recruit. Its something that given the time frame we werent able to see Hokes staff do this year but next year should be interesting. Im optimistic that we can bring in a top 5 class in 2012

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January 27th, 2011 at 10:52 AM | Top 5 would be awesome, but I (Score:1)
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Top 5 would be awesome, but I see top 10 being more likely. Either way, I see a big recruiting year next year for Michigan. As mentioned by TomVH on his Twitter, the Midwest is loaded with talent next year and if we can pick up guys like Wormley, RSJ, and company, we will be in good position for years to come.

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January 27th, 2011 at 11:25 AM | Yes I completely agree top 10 (Score:1)
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Yes I completely agree top 10 is much more likely and probly more realistic for a first year coach but I said im going to be optimistic. From everything I have seen and heard from recruits and the experts (including Tom) I feel like we should set the bar high and aim for top 5...keeping in mind that if we sign a few less guys than the SEC teams due to scholarship restrictions and possibly technically fall out of the top 5 for points I would consider that a top 5 class. Im excited to see what happens with this kid because if we could even make his February list of schools he is definitely interested in it would keep this buzz going and would definitely help us in recruiting the above mentioned Wormely, RSJ, and then the Cass Tech company.

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January 27th, 2011 at 11:54 AM | I am with you. If we make his (Score:1)
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I am with you. If we make his top 10-15 next month, I think we would have a realistic shot. Hoke just needs to go in there and tell him where Tom Brady played QB in college. It doesn't hurt that Hoke is the one that recruited him either of course.

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January 27th, 2011 at 10:49 AM | This guy is all win (Score:1)
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the big ten will be shaking in their boots if we can recruit guys like him again.

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January 27th, 2011 at 11:23 AM | Roethlisberger 2.0? (Score:1)
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This is a big kid with some moderate mobility, reminds me of Big Ben. The back leg lift is a little odd but that might just be how he maintains balance through his throws. Could be a mechanism his body uses to determine touch on a ball...?

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January 27th, 2011 at 1:44 PM | He reminds me of (Score:1)
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Pike reminds me of Phillip Rivers.

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January 27th, 2011 at 11:30 AM | Kid is huuuuuuge. (Score:1)
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Kid is huuuuuuge.

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January 27th, 2011 at 11:34 AM | If he's smart, then he will (Score:1)
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If he's smart, then he will come to one of the best QB schools in the nation. Well we used to, before all this spread stuff. Plus he looks like he should wear a winged helmet too!

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January 27th, 2011 at 12:28 PM | "Used to" Remember that (Score:1)
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"Used to"

Remember that time when our QB shredded NCAA and school records on a weekly basis?

HAIL.

January 27th, 2011 at 12:37 PM | Yea. I hate being sick with (Score:1)
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Yea. I hate being stuck with Denard Robinson at quarterback. Dude sucks; can't throw at all, isn't fast and we also definitely do not have a 5* highly recruited backup either.

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January 27th, 2011 at 12:38 PM | Yeah, I mean who's this (Score:1)
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Yeah, I mean who's this Gardner kid? I heard one of the recruiting services compare him to some Vince Young guy...is he any good???

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January 27th, 2011 at 12:40 PM | Only if he were to go (Score:1)
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Only if he were to go somewhere other than Michigan...

/s obviously.

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January 27th, 2011 at 12:46 PM | Vince who? No, he's probably (Score:1)
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Vince who? No, he's probably not any good. Maybe if he had a good Rose Bowl game or something people would hear of him.

I just can't wait to get some good quarterbacks. This Denard kid isn't cutting it. I mean, THIS IS MICHIGAN.

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January 27th, 2011 at 1:28 PM | Vince Young is very good. (Score:1)
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Vince Young is very good. He's so elusive he literally goes missing for days on end! Hey-o!!!

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