Michigan Defensive Back Tyler Cochran pulls no punches on "incompetent" Schlissel

Submitted by MaizenBlue93 on August 12th, 2020 at 7:53 PM

Go get 'em hot shot! Between Warde and Mark, we have a clown show of administrators. Let's bring in some that care about sports, care about winning, and will stand up for our teams when they get screwed. 

 

https://247sports.com/college/michigan/Article/Incompetent-Michigan-football-DB-blasts-Big-Ten-President-Schlissel-over-postponement-decision-150164407/

HateSparty

August 13th, 2020 at 5:43 PM ^

Your legitimacy is flawed because (a.) you threw yourself into this thread and continue to defend your idiocy (b.) fail to inform anything you’ve said (c.) you are uninformed about Florida’s situation as the majority of their deaths happened after Michigan and now sit at third worst in that category behind New York and New Jersey (d.) you make your stand on a data point that now is becoming less significant because the optics bother you, not facts on the ground.

You hate politics and act above it but throw yourself into a discussion unwarranted. I’d say you are here 11 years but are still a fraud like those you try to look down your nose at, myself included. Joker.

 

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TIMMMAAY

August 13th, 2020 at 6:17 PM ^

It does help clarify things, thank you. I still have one nagging issue though, and a big one; I don't know that I believe that the discrepancy is/was caused solely by the nursing home fiasco. I honestly don't know how many died because of that, so that's probably one of my next rabbit holes to venture down. 

And yes, this kind of discussion is tough to have here nowadays. It did used to be very different in that regard (and all others really). Sign of the times. 

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Clarence Beeks

August 13th, 2020 at 6:46 PM ^

You’re welcome! It’s a rabbit hole to go down, for sure, but be prepared for awfulness. I have close connections galore that own nursing homes and work elder care and it’s appalling. When you do, I urge you to not look just at total deaths among the nursing home population, but rather be sure to look at rate (because Florida has a WAY larger nursing home population than Michigan does).

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Clarence Beeks

August 12th, 2020 at 9:33 PM ^

This used to say “Edit: removal of a double post that appeared out of thread, not a content change. The actual post appears in the thread above.“ But since it’s getting negged for that, how about let’s instead make this another place for some apparently angry group to neg me in this thread. I’m cool with it and have the points (11 plus years here gets that deference or IDGAS, I guess)...

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MGoStretch

August 13th, 2020 at 11:21 AM ^

Are you implying that the president of the university who also happens to have graduated from Princeton in biochemistry, and MD/PhD in physiological chemistry at Johns Hopkins, internal med residency at the most prestigious program in the country (Osler service also at Hopkins) then went on to study with Nobel Laurate David Baltimore at MIT and has gone on to chair the immunobiology study section at the NIH might be a better person to make such decisions? How outrageous.

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BoFan

August 12th, 2020 at 8:21 PM ^

And all this time I had believed that Michigan upheld the same intelligence and academic standards for its football team as for its students. 

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Mr Miggle

August 12th, 2020 at 8:24 PM ^

If the University of Michigan exists to provide enjoyment for its football fans, then Schlissel isn't a great leader.

Given the school's actual purpose, I don't think we could do much better. It's not as is if he is hostile to big time college athletics.  

Let's not even think about putting another fan in charge of the athletic department. No thank you.

 

 

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SalvatoreQuattro

August 12th, 2020 at 8:33 PM ^

It is an university, not an athletics department. The university is much more than a football program. Much, much more. Those who have attended, worked, or lived around the university understand this. Those who are fans of the football program only tend not to.

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BTB grad

August 12th, 2020 at 10:08 PM ^

"Not surprising since I’ve never seen him in the facility in my 4+ years here"

That was the funniest part of this player's post. The man is busy running one of the premier universities and research institutions in the world. Coming into the facility to check out how the installation of the new offense is coming is the least of his concerns.

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aa_squared

August 12th, 2020 at 8:37 PM ^

TYLER WHO!!!!!!!

Oh yeah....his father was someone....somewhat!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm going to say that Schlissel has accomplished more than TYLER!!!!!

TYLER wasn't even a starter (MAYBE practice squad).....yet, he's yapping!!!!!!!!! Against a University President!!!!!

REALLY TYLER!!!! WHAT HAVE YOU ACCOMPLISHED TO JUSTIFY THOSE COMMENTS?!!!!

Oh yeah, your daddy was teammates with Harbaugh.

If you are willing to delay 1 credit to play, then you shouldn't CRY when life doesn't treat you fairly.

 

Which other University offered TYLER an opportunity to play football?

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bacon1431

August 12th, 2020 at 8:41 PM ^

I’m sure there could have been more transparency with the teams. I think I’m disappointed with that. Could have laid out criteria for when and why they would postpone the season. I’m not sure they had specifics but I don’t really blame them as we are in uncharted territory. I think the B1G presidents made the right choice in the end. 
I don’t care that Schlissel didn’t come to practice at all. He’s got better things to do. 

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4th phase

August 13th, 2020 at 12:08 AM ^

Yeah even though the decision makes sense, it would have been nice to see some more of the thought process. Like Rutgers and MSU probably should have been just kicked out for having outbreaks. Then since Harbaugh was so adamant that his team wouldn’t catch anything, you just give him some stipulation like okay you have 20 positive tests, symptomatic or not, and you’re done for the year. 
I get the players are frustrated but they can talk all they want now. As soon as one of them gets hospitalized their families are going to be storming the AD with torches and pitchforks.

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Nobody Likes a…

August 12th, 2020 at 8:44 PM ^

When every member of the team is alive and well this time next year I'll listen to all the complaints from people who said this was the wrong decision. I won't care, but I'll listen.

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bronxblue

August 12th, 2020 at 8:53 PM ^

Glad he got that out of his system.  It is fun we live in a world where a deep bench guy on the football team can call a trained immunologist and president of the University, amongst others, incompetent and be mad he didn't personally, I guess, jump on a Zoom call and tell everyone why he's voting along with 11 other college presidents to cancel a season because of a global pandemic.  

Again, I think it's good for everyone to have a voice.  It doesn't mean, though, that everyone has to listen to you.

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Clarence Beeks

August 12th, 2020 at 8:58 PM ^

You’d be delusional?

 

Just a note for those “negging” this: anyone who works in higher ed knows that the main purpose isn’t academics. It is a business, that employs (a lot of) people, whose PRODUCT is academics. I know the purists want to believe otherwise, but... yeah. Delusional.

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trueblueintexas

August 12th, 2020 at 11:47 PM ^

You are correct about the main purpose not being academics. Where you are so sadly off base is the real reason the people who work at colleges work there, It’s about the students and developing people. Academics are just one way, there are many others, and that ultimately is what they care about.
I have been exposed to higher education my entire life thanks to my Dad. For all of the arguments I had to witness between professors, coaches, development people, etc, the one common ground they always came back to was what was going to help the student(s) develop as people who could positively contribute to society, now and in the future. 

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Clarence Beeks

August 13th, 2020 at 12:19 AM ^

Yep, completely agree. No doubt. I’m actually not off base about what you said at all (and fully understand it, as one of said people who works in higher ed for that exact purpose) - that is why the people work there; not the main priority of the institution. Thus why you will always hear trustees talking about dollars and bottom lines far more than they will every talk about academics.

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trueblueintexas

August 13th, 2020 at 1:04 AM ^

I had to listen to plenty of conversations with trustees also. The majority of trustees come from the business world so they often fall back to what they know. They also care greatly about the development of the campus because, again, building and paying for things is something they understand. That said, typically the college president keeps a fairly tight separation between the trustees and the day to day operations of the university for this very reason. 
One area trustees often have an oversized interest is athletics. This is where their fandom often clouds sound decision making. There was not a single time an AD, football or basketball coach didn’t have access to at least one trustee to try to influence the board because the trustee thought it was cool to be friends with the sports guy. It was pretty pathetic to witness even as a kid.

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Hensons Mobile…

August 12th, 2020 at 9:03 PM ^

I suggest people read the actual instagram post. The headline and the OP misrepresent the message slightly. He called all the presidents collectively incompetent.

He then singles out Schlissel to criticize him for not speaking to the players directly. He also insinuates that Schlissel’s lack of presence at the football facilities is a failing of his duties as president of the University.

Mr. Cochran has, in my opinion, a misguided understanding of Schlissel’s job.

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bronxblue

August 12th, 2020 at 10:24 PM ^

Does he also need to sit down with every XC, soccer, golf, etc. athlete to explain himself?  How about every staff member and grounds person who works on any of the athletic fields?  Each ticket taker now gets a personalized call explaining why *gestures at the world around* it's unsafe to play football this year?

You're not an arrogant ass if you do your job and not placate everyone who wants to give you an uninformed earful about why they don't like you decision.

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4th phase

August 13th, 2020 at 12:14 AM ^

Maybe the presidents weren’t supposed to tell 500 athletes and staff of all fall sports so the league could keep it under wraps. Ever think of that. 
It’s a ridiculous standard that isn’t followed anywhere in the real world. CEOs aren’t consulting with every worker on any decisions.

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Clarence Beeks

August 12th, 2020 at 10:39 PM ^

Honestly? I would actually bet NOT. Or at least I would hope not, as that isn’t his job right now. I would be perfectly comfortable betting the athletic department brought in the highest possible level consultants to develop their medical strategy on this. Do I know that for sure? No. But I don’t see Harbaugh delivering as forceful of a statement as he did if they weren’t REAL serious about what they were doing in the building.

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MGoStretch

August 13th, 2020 at 11:59 AM ^

I'll take that bet, let me know how you'd like to transfer your funds and how much you'll be sending me.

On my side...  I have a guy who graduated from Princeton with honors in Biochemistry.  Obtained an MD and PhD from Johns Hopkins in Physiological Chemistry.  He completed internal medicine residency as part of the Osler service at Johns Hopkins (the most competitive and prestigious internal med residency in the world), then he went on to do post-doctoral research at MIT under Nobel Laureate David Baltimore.  Since then, he's gone on to be a full professor of Molecular and Cell biology, at UC Berkley, and has chaired the Immunobiology Study Section at the NIH (he is such a boss, his job was to be the head of the group that consisted of the best in the country who in turn, judged the rest of merely regularly brilliant immunologists in the country).  His research is focused on B-lymphocytes and production of antibodies.

Who ya got?

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allezbleu

August 12th, 2020 at 9:45 PM ^

I'm upset football is cancelled and I empathize with his football career potentially ending, but I think it's hilarious that this kid thinks Schlissel should come to the football facility to explain the decision to him. Quite a sense of entitlement if you ask me. 

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1VaBlue1

August 12th, 2020 at 9:49 PM ^

I read the story and his statement, and I read half a page of comments.  I don't have any problem with what he said.  It's pretty sad that Schlissel can feel obligated to make a decision like this without even speaking to players.  Not even a handful of player representatives.  I don't decry the decision made, but the more I learn about it, the more I dislike the way it was made.

And a lot of the posters here suck.

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