"Iowa has faced 2 better RB's than Haskins"
This is an actual quote from a podcast from Black Heart Gold Pants site (go to 31:50 for the quote).
What does PFF (or OSU defensive line) know?
If they think Hassan Haskins is only the third best RB that they have faced all year, I don't think they will have any idea what hit them after the dust settles on Saturday.
December 3rd, 2021 at 10:56 AM ^
Which two?
December 3rd, 2021 at 10:58 AM ^
Guessing they mean Wisconsin and .... ?????
December 3rd, 2021 at 11:00 AM ^
I assume one is Braelon Allen, who had one great game against Nebraska, one awful game against Minnesota, and a couple others where he smashed the dregs of the conference. The other? No idea.
December 3rd, 2021 at 11:00 AM ^
I assume they mean Breece Hall at ISU (correct) and they guy at Wisconsin (incorrect)?
December 3rd, 2021 at 11:02 AM ^
Allen and Hall are the two that they claim are better than Haskins.
December 3rd, 2021 at 1:30 PM ^
I don't know....maybe they are on paper...I don't look that shit up. But I will put my bottom dollar on Mr. Haskins getting Michigan a 1 yard gain to win the game and will roll with it.
That young man along with the amazing offensive line has earned my and I think the majority of the Michigan community's respect.
Go Blue!!!!
December 3rd, 2021 at 11:00 AM ^
I assume Braelon Allen of Wisconsin and Breece Hall of Iowa State. Hall led FBS in rushing last year and is potentially gonna be the top back in the draft next year, so objectively that's fair. Allen is a massive reach though.
Even if they have faced two backs better than Haskins, that hasn't been in tandem with our OL, Cade, our WRs, Corum and Edwards. That's just willful ignorance by Iowa fans at that point.
December 3rd, 2021 at 11:46 AM ^
Similarly, even if HH is the 3rd best back (which is disputable for sure), it mostly irrelevant if the other two are really good. What's positive about playing a really good RB just because he might not be as good two other ones they faced? Secondarily, RB's are really dependent on OLine, so it's not even super worthwhile to talk about a RB in isolation.
December 3rd, 2021 at 12:39 PM ^
Similarly, even if HH is the 3rd best back (which is disputable for sure), it mostly irrelevant if the other two are really good.
Underrated point.
And it's not like they really stuffed the other two. The Wisconsin guy ran for >100 yards (and Iowa got creamed) and ISU bottled up their own guy by having him run 16 times against 43 passes.
December 3rd, 2021 at 3:21 PM ^
Notable exception: Barry MF Sanders
December 3rd, 2021 at 11:57 AM ^
Yeah, Hall and Allen are the backs in question. OMG, you want to fire up the team? Let them listen to this podcast! They're backhandedly complementing Cafe, and just flat out dissing Hassan. These two are literally looking down their noses at our offense, bringing up Rutgers and how if Mertz hadn't gone down at Wisconsin, and how against Ohio State we just ran a bunch of end arounds that they couldn't handle. I need to hear what they say about our defense...
December 3rd, 2021 at 12:27 PM ^
Lol a bunch of end arounds? we ran one for a touchdown that I can remember. Corum and Haskins long runs were both between the tackles.
December 3rd, 2021 at 1:37 PM ^
I'm pretty sure Ferentz has Haskins properly rated.
December 3rd, 2021 at 11:59 AM ^
That was my first thought. Do ISU and Wisconsin have a better OL than us this year? I doubt it. And they definitely don't have as good of a QB-WR combo as we have. A run offense isn't just your running back
December 3rd, 2021 at 12:15 PM ^
When comparing our O-line to their D-line, they acknowledged ours were bigger, but theirs are longer. Seriously.
December 3rd, 2021 at 12:52 PM ^
LOL the Michigan OL is about 3 inches taller and 40-50 pounds bigger per man than the Iowa DL.
December 3rd, 2021 at 2:16 PM ^
I am calling it. 3 Hurdled Fools this game. They don't know HH.
December 3rd, 2021 at 11:00 AM ^
Breece Hall from Iowa State is a very good back.
Wisconsin's freshman who did not play against Michigan has been tearing it up in the second half of the season.
The important thing is which two they consider the best after Saturday, not before.
December 3rd, 2021 at 11:43 AM ^
He's been tearing it up since they started playing the B1G West.. I think Wisconsin has been falsely overvalued because of this. They became "good" after their competition level fell off dramatically.
December 3rd, 2021 at 11:45 AM ^
Agreed, B.Allen at Wisconsin has looked real good and gonna be a stud back over the next few years. Kinda glad we’re done with Wisco as a cross over and won’t need to see him against our lads (exception being in future B1G championship games of course).
Go BLUE!
December 3rd, 2021 at 12:02 PM ^
I mean, the funny thing is they got their ass kicked by Wisconsin and Bryce Allen went for 104 yards on 20 carries. So what is the point?
You've gone up against a comparable back to Haskins and lost badly. Is that the point? Not to mention that team lost badly to the one you're about to play.
December 3rd, 2021 at 3:02 PM ^
That's OK, they'll be revising their opinion after tomorrow to "We faced the best three RB's yesterday".
December 3rd, 2021 at 10:58 AM ^
Who cares what they think or say. The game will be decided on the field. Honestly, the only thing that matters is Michigan’s collective performance on Saturday night.
December 3rd, 2021 at 10:58 AM ^
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9 Iowa State Edit - Possibly
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Kent State NO
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Maryland NO
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4 Penn State NO
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Northwestern NO
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Nebraska NO
December 3rd, 2021 at 11:00 AM ^
Breece Hall at ISU is a baller. He will get drafted higher than Haskins - doesn't mean he is better though.
December 3rd, 2021 at 11:38 AM ^
For a B1G team, that is about as weak a schedule you will ever see.
December 3rd, 2021 at 11:54 AM ^
Find who has that schedule next year and pencil them into the BIg Ten CG.
December 3rd, 2021 at 12:39 PM ^
Iowa 2021 strength of schedule is 13th of the 14 B1G teams, just ahead of last place Minnesota.
EDIT: https://www.espn.com/college-football/fpi/_/view/resume/group/5/sort/resume.avgsosrank/dir/asc
December 3rd, 2021 at 12:11 PM ^
It's a weak year for RBs, but Breece Hall is widely considered to be the #1 or #2 back in the 2022 draft pool. I haven't ever watched him play, but you can infer that this means most pundits consider Hall to be "better" than Haskins. Of course, Haskins has another year of eligibility ahead of him (thanks COVID), although not sure he takes it.
December 3rd, 2021 at 12:57 PM ^
I think it's also tough to just look at names and stats here. Haskins is going to be lethal for two reasons:
1) We have 4 emerging WR threats, Donovan Edwards coming out of the backfield , a QB who is elite at pre-snap reads, and a hell of an offensive line. You can't just be like "well we are gonna shut down Haskins" because we will beat you other ways if you try. There's a reason OSU didn't just put 8-9 guys in the box to stop the run.
2) He doesn't give a shit and he'll run you right-the-f&%k over anyways. If he doesn't hurdle your ass.
Wisconsin has a good back (finally) but they can't throw the ball to save their lives. Iowa State has a good back, but they're a flawed team this year. There's nobody else on this list who compares to Haskins anyways, but we will be hands down the most complete team they've faced this year, and if they want to try to shut down Haskins, they'll do so at their own risk.
December 3rd, 2021 at 9:02 PM ^
That schedule is 12-0 or 11-1 virtually every year with UW and PSU as alternating. Big time, Meh!
December 3rd, 2021 at 11:01 AM ^
Sounds like somebody is grasping for straws.
December 3rd, 2021 at 11:03 AM ^
I have seen two RBs all year that I would put on the same level as Haskins. One would be Kenneth Walker III, and the other would be Mo Ibrahim (was basically Haskins vs OSU before he got hurt vs OSU). And a fully healthy Corum may be the best of them all.
December 3rd, 2021 at 11:23 AM ^
That kid at OSU isn't bad.
December 3rd, 2021 at 11:45 AM ^
The one with barely 60 yards in The Game? I'm sure he has a nice golf swing.
December 3rd, 2021 at 12:05 PM ^
He ended up with 75 yards rushing and 54 receiving
he played pretty well but our boys shit down the running game in second half
December 3rd, 2021 at 12:10 PM ^
Indeed, we treated their running game like a cooler in C-bus. Love the typo.
December 3rd, 2021 at 12:32 PM ^
Clever comeback…made me laugh out loud…thanks…
December 3rd, 2021 at 12:09 PM ^
Not really a fair assessment. He only got 17 carries (compared to 35 for our RBs), as OSU chose to go to the air more often. He's a 5-star and will be solid, if not very good.
December 3rd, 2021 at 12:05 PM ^
Forgot about him honestly, but yeah he’s good. Probably more Zeke than Dobbins but what’s a Beamer to a Benz?
December 3rd, 2021 at 12:55 PM ^
He's a really good player, and will likely be better than Haskins. But this year, I'd lean Haskins. That one tackle Hawkins made where Henderson lost balance and went down was notable to me. I think Haskins stays on his feet for 30+ yards. I remember thinking other OSU backs would have made that play. Henderson will in a year or two.
December 3rd, 2021 at 11:42 AM ^
As much as I hate to give OSU any props, Treveyon Henderson is pretty good. Over 1,000 yards this season and he's only a freshman.
He'll probably be their next Elliott / Dobbins type of RB.
December 3rd, 2021 at 12:02 PM ^
Even 11 Warriors doesn't consider him a YAC guy though. He hits the right holes and has speed for days but he doesn't scare you if you're an LB trying to tackle him.
December 3rd, 2021 at 2:02 PM ^
He’s not as strong as Zeke & he’s not as shifty as Dobbins. He obviously is good, but not that good on either level.
December 3rd, 2021 at 6:55 PM ^
He might be good but how hard is it to run when you've got the best wr corps and the 2nd best passing attack in history.
December 3rd, 2021 at 11:06 AM ^
I would not agree but if you want to make an argument that Breece hall is better then fine he has over 1500 yards and 6YPC but who is the second RB better then Haskins
December 3rd, 2021 at 11:07 AM ^
Might be true, hell, Corum might be better than Haskins in terms of pure skill. I can tell you which guy defenses get tired of tackling in the second half and don’t want to see carrying the ball, and that’s Haskins.
This sounds like a couple of guys that looked at stats and box scores, but haven’t watched much non-Iowa football.
December 3rd, 2021 at 1:56 PM ^
Hell, even look at the stats of the RBs in those two games. 5YPC in a loss and 4.3YPC on 16 carries in a win due to 4 turnovers. It's not like they exactly shut those RBs down.
December 3rd, 2021 at 11:10 AM ^
And Haskins has faced (three, oh wait, I almost included Ohio State) two better defensive fronts than Iowa's.
BEAT IOWA
December 3rd, 2021 at 11:13 AM ^
Well it sounds like Michigan has faced about 12 QBs better than Petras.