How will Tarik Blacks return impact our offense?
Positively, obviously. But more specifically I’m wondering what will change when he is back. We can all agree that DPJ and Collins have been good, and Perry is still doing a good job finding the seams in the D underneath coverage. So does Black just rotate in with those outside guys, do we see less TE and FB heavy formations to get more receivers on the field? Will be interesting to see what we have planned with his addition. Even though he’s a big receiver, I think he was a solid deep threat as well so that’s another threat the D has to worry about.
October 24th, 2018 at 11:32 AM ^
Cheers to many DPJ inside slants and taking it to the house!
October 24th, 2018 at 12:32 PM ^
I am not sure why you are bagging on 3rd WRs for having ten catches when we pass the ball between 15 and 25 times a game and are more likely to play two tight ends than three receivers. The biggest plus to Black is that he is more of a deep threat than Nico and a better route runner than DPJ. Both of those guys have played reasonably well, but there is a higher ceiling on the pass game than what we have seen so far. Black's return allows you to go power spread while keeping multiple deep threats on the field.
October 24th, 2018 at 1:05 PM ^
I'm not trying to bag on them, they're both freshman who play and don't look lost. Thats a good thing. They've both contributed and especially Bell as a true freshman has shown flashes of awesome. But clearly the coaches don't trust them like they do DPJ and Collins and Black should be the DPJ/Collins type guy.
October 24th, 2018 at 11:33 AM ^
Move DPJ to the slot, where he will smoke Safeties and linebackers
October 24th, 2018 at 12:07 PM ^
Torch a sub-average secondary you say? I wonder if we have any of those left on the schedule...
October 24th, 2018 at 11:34 AM ^
Positively
October 24th, 2018 at 11:38 AM ^
Of course, there should be some more 3-WR plays because all of them can go deep, drag through the middle, or stay shallow to kill a soft zone. It's disgusting how many options this offense will have. But the main thrust of the Harbaughffense is controlling play via rushing and time of possession. Getting another very good WR softens up the safeties that much more. I can see another gain in ToP and another 5 points added to the average score.
There is no such thing as 'Michigan in a shootout' with Don Brown's defense. If Harbaugh's offense has the ball for 35-40 minutes, they don't need to score a lot. They just will.
October 24th, 2018 at 11:42 AM ^
Your last paragraph is why I'm confident we're beating OSU this year. Our D is going to knock the shit out of Haskins and they don't have a run game to lean on this season.
OSU is fucked.
October 24th, 2018 at 11:46 AM ^
Just have to stop OSU scoring fast. Agree with controlling the clock more, scoring, and go blue.
October 24th, 2018 at 11:41 AM ^
I wish I knew. I honestly will be happy to find out. It seems we've barely even seen Tarik. I hope he makes fantastic impact on the offense.
October 24th, 2018 at 11:42 AM ^
If he's truly our best WR, expect to see less of Grant Perry, and even less of Ronnie Bell (who I have loved since seeing his recruiting film--very excited for his future). I guess it will be difficult for Oliver Martin, Nate Schoenle, and Jake McCurry to get any non-garbage time snaps.
October 24th, 2018 at 11:55 AM ^
It's not gonna impact Grant Perry and Oliver Martin. Those dudes are slot specialists. Ronnie Bell probably won't see many more critical snaps, but its a testament to his ability that he's seen what he has as a true freshman without a ton of polish. He's going to be a stud.
October 24th, 2018 at 11:58 AM ^
Martin isn't a slot specialist. He can play in the slot, but he's played outside as well and his recruiting profile projected him to play inside or out.
October 24th, 2018 at 12:56 PM ^
How many games has Bell appeared in? If it's more than four, I expect the coaches will still find ways to use him this season. If not, would be nice to bank that possible fifth year.
October 24th, 2018 at 1:16 PM ^
My man! Ronnie Bell! Harbaugh was so jacked up after the MD game talking about #8! Ronnie Bell! Good things coming from him at WR!
October 24th, 2018 at 11:46 AM ^
Probably in the Red Zone and on passing downs. He is the best receiver at contested catches and those two areas feature the most contested catches. Also in when we go with spread looks, you can put him or DPJ inside instead of Perry/Martin creating a vertical threat in the slot.
October 24th, 2018 at 11:52 AM ^
I'd say he rotates in Collins and takes away some of his snaps. But, I'd be surprised if he's back to normal starter snaps this season. I bet he will be quite limited until OSU and even then only play half starter snaps. Maybe he be 100% by the bowl game.
October 24th, 2018 at 12:10 PM ^
That's my take as well. I am keeping my expectations low. He hasn't played a competitive game in over a year, and he is coming off two significant foot injuries. My guess is they will work him gradually in, but I also don't see them risking him too much against Rutgers and Indiana. OSU and postseason are where I think we may see him make an impact.
October 24th, 2018 at 11:53 AM ^
Hopefully it helps on 3rd and long. I remember one such play Saturday where they showed the WRs, they all ran deep routes and then proceeded to stand around as Shea was scrambling looking for someone to throw to.
October 24th, 2018 at 11:55 AM ^
Have we seen Black, DPJ, and Collins on the field at the same time? Them plus Perry and Gentry in empty back sets would be glorious, especially with Shea's legs. I also love the idea of coming out in 21/22 personnel with Black and DPJ then splitting out the TEs and going to the gun, especially if the safeties and LBs on the other team aren't exactly killing it (Yes you, OSU).
October 24th, 2018 at 12:03 PM ^
5 wide.
October 24th, 2018 at 12:11 PM ^
Sorry Coach Franklin, not falling for your internet trickery. You won't get any of us program insiders to reveal ANYTHING.
October 24th, 2018 at 12:14 PM ^
Tarik Black has only played 3 college football games in his life. He has 11 career catches. By comparison, Nico Collins now has a resume doubling Black's career numbers. Collins at this point is more experienced and more familiar with this QB and this version of the offense. Tarik Black, as good as he was initially, is coming off of two foot surgeries. He was definitely ahead of Collins and DPJ out of the gate in 2017. There is no certainty that is still the case.
It feels like everyone expecting to add Randy Moss to this offense. My fingers are crossed that he comes back without missing a beat. However, that seems like a bold expectation for a guy we haven't seen for 14 months. I'll be happy with his addition to the WR rotation in any capacity.
October 24th, 2018 at 12:18 PM ^
I'm a bit disappointed in the McKeon this season, seemed like his blocking was better last year. Wouldn't mind seeing a TE replaced with a WR and having more quick hitter passes, which also plays to Shea's strength.
October 24th, 2018 at 12:26 PM ^
I love the projection for a guy who's played 3 games at Michigan. I don't expect him to make a major impact the rest of the way. He'll rotate in with DPJ and Collins. Needs to show he's a willing blocker like those 2 guys.
Biggest thing is we probably see much less Ronnie Bell.
October 24th, 2018 at 12:26 PM ^
It creates less predictability in the offense. By having either DPJ/Collins/Black in at all times means you have to defend the WHOLE field on every down. If Martin and Perry are in, they are less likely to go deep or blow by you. If a package rolls out of DPJ/Collins/Black/Gentry............. That could be interesting.
October 24th, 2018 at 12:34 PM ^
Just depth. I think Bell has looked good in his appearances and Collins/DPJ have the starting spots locked down.
October 24th, 2018 at 3:00 PM ^
This probably ends Bell's snaps because Tarik is much better than Bell.
October 24th, 2018 at 12:48 PM ^
No need for route trees now. Just throw it up in the general direction of one of your WR's and let them go get it.
October 24th, 2018 at 12:48 PM ^
He should help, but let's pump the brakes just a bit. Not only does he have to get back into game shape, but he also has to develop chemistry with Shea. Tarik showed he is an exceptional route runner, so I imagine he will need some time to get those cleaned up as well. If he plays against PSU, Black should be in good form for OSU.
I suspect Harbaugh will be VERY cautious with him and his return. Maybe a few plays against PSU then build his load against Rutgers (if we throw it more than 10 times) and Indiana.
October 24th, 2018 at 1:16 PM ^
Agree here last thing you want as well is the dude pulling a hamstring. He is so explosive you see that happen all the time with RB's/WR's when coming back from injury. I'm sure the medical staff is managing appropriately though.
I'd also agree now he has a full week to workout not even in game prep then a week of game prep for psu so hopefully he is working his way into game shape during that time. Man what a lift though if he could play in the three games before osu to get, into the groove, as you noted and build chemistry.
October 24th, 2018 at 12:52 PM ^
I suppose we will see soon.
October 24th, 2018 at 1:05 PM ^
Black is the key to Shea's Rudockening.
October 24th, 2018 at 1:11 PM ^
I imagine he'll rotate in using 1/4-1/3 of the Collins/DPJ snaps and get immersed in the offense slowly. Then, by the OSU game, all bets are off.
October 24th, 2018 at 1:26 PM ^
He will stretch the field a bit more and can help take the top off the defense, opening up for draws/screens in the running game. Also he's a home run threat. It also makes defense planning for opposing teams a nightmare and they will have to pick their poison with who they need to cover with what and can no longer double team if we go 3 or 4 wide.
October 24th, 2018 at 1:27 PM ^
FTR, I do not agree that DPJ and Collins and Perry have been "good." The team is good so complaining is churlish but I think we all can agree that if there are worries they are about the passing game. Which has been mostly secondary to the running game and inconsistent when required.
This could be because Patterson won't take the chances that are required to make the plays. But prior to the MSU game, it felt to me like the issue in the passing game was the lack of utilization of the WR. Instead they throw to TEs and FBs. I had come around to the idea that maybe the WR just weren't that good yet.
When he has been on the field Black has been the best WR by a wide margin. When he went down, both times, it was acknowledged that they had lost their best WR. The only one that had any kind of track record of success. That still remains true. I expect a healthy Black to be a significant upgrade at WR.
October 24th, 2018 at 1:32 PM ^
DPJ is tied for most TDs on the team with Karan and Bench Mason with 6 TDs. He seems to be improving. I think he's been very good.
Also teams have been double teaming him, with Black back, they can no longer do this effectively.
October 24th, 2018 at 3:09 PM ^
Agreed although he may not be back to 100% yet
October 24th, 2018 at 1:40 PM ^
I don't think they throw the ball enough for it to make a noticeable difference. Can't hurt though.
October 24th, 2018 at 2:19 PM ^
I'm guessing he eats into Nico's minutes. Last year (pre injury) Black was the only one who could consistently get open. I see black and Nico as both being able to take the top off a defense. The difference is Nico is more of a straight line runner where Black is the complete package.
Probably some formations with Nico and Black on the outside and DPJ in slot as well. I would expect blacks return to explore the deep middle of the field.
October 24th, 2018 at 2:32 PM ^
All I know is it'll be great to see Tarik on the field again. I have a fading, yet great, memory of him getting behind a CB for a TD. Hope to see a lot more of that soon!
October 24th, 2018 at 2:58 PM ^
Our new offense will be 4 Ent Verticals on every play. How could you stop Nico, DPJ, Black, and Gentry running this? Hell, go 5 wide and use Evans for an outlet.
October 24th, 2018 at 4:10 PM ^
There's more than one Tarik Black?
October 24th, 2018 at 5:35 PM ^
I think it opens up the offense quite a bit when the D's third best DB now needs to cover Collins instead of their second best DB. Also, Black looked better in his first four games as a true Freshman than either DPJ or Collins have looked all season. That's not a knock on either guy; it's just reality that Black is a better WR than either of them. I'm sure Black will need a few weeks to get fully up to speed but he should go into Columbus as the #1 target at WR.
October 25th, 2018 at 8:13 PM ^
It will impact it well