Trader Jack

February 25th, 2015 at 3:28 PM ^

You're missing the entire point. In your crazy scenario, the potential investors on Shark Tank would never say, "I know that YOU believe what you're doing isn't meaningful" unless you told them that yourself. Because there's no way they could possibly know, without reading your mind. In this instance, when Magnus does the same thing, it's easy to point out that he actually has no idea what he's talking about. Unless, again, he is able to read minds.

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Fuzzy Dunlop

February 25th, 2015 at 10:57 AM ^

This is such a nothing issue.  They didn't "approve" anything -- they said that if you want to go out and try to get famous people to write a song about Michigan, go crazy.  It's a free country. They didn't provide any funding, they didn't suggest that the student government would officially adopt the song in the (unlikely) event it is actually written.

Way too much ink has been spilled (uh, keyboards have been mashed?) over this non-story already.

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Perkis-Size Me

February 25th, 2015 at 10:58 AM ^

Ehh at this point why fight it? It's not overtaking The Victors, they're not getting any funding, and I'd be surprised if this really ever saw the light of day in Michigan Stadium. You've already got plenty of people who are already vehemently opposed to it.

Let them have their fun. If it comes out, great. As long as they never make a petition to replace The Victors with this.



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ann.arbor.lover

February 25th, 2015 at 11:01 AM ^

I hope that when their efforts eventually fail (in the near future), someone could write an article about it and publish on Michigan Daily. It will be about a cautionary tale to students on how to think logically, to listen to outside advice and to put personal gains secondary to the public. 

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SwordDancer710

February 25th, 2015 at 11:03 AM ^

Let them do it, and when they fail, we can hold it up next to "In The Big House" as an example of why you never mess with The Victors.

In other news, Pop Evil has a new album out, and the song "Trenches" isn't bad.

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kehnonymous

February 25th, 2015 at 11:20 AM ^

There is one thing the Hail & Unite cretins are absolutely right about:

“We really wanted to clarify that ‘The Victors’ and what we are doing couldn’t be further apart,” Weinberg said.

No shit.

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Bosch

February 25th, 2015 at 11:28 AM ^

Do I think it is a good idea? No. Am I passionate about that answer? Also, no. Shitting on the vision of college students because I don't share the same opinion isn't high on my list of priorities.

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JamieH

February 25th, 2015 at 11:28 AM ^

No funding = ignore

At this point, they are a bunch of college kids doing whatever they want.  I'll get worried about it at the point that someone in the actualy UM decision making tree decides to give 2 s***s about it, which is going to be never now that we have actual adults in charge. 

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ghostofhoke

February 25th, 2015 at 12:08 PM ^

Maybe I haven't paid enough attention to this or cared to know exactly what they are trying to do to be as upset as most people seem to be. What if 18-22 year olds know more about what could be cool than a bunch of old people on a fan board. Could it turn out that all the rage about something that doesn't exist and we don't know what will be is totally misplaced? Just a thought. Granted their Michigan experience has been drastically different than our more traditional experience in light of the condition of the athletic department over the last 10 yrs. But if what they do sucks, won't we all know it at that point and it will be an epic failure? Is it just that they want funding that has everyone so upset? What's the harm is seeing what they produce before deciding whether it's good or not? As long as it doesn't threaten what already exists I don't see the harm--or do I have that wrong and it might replace The Victors? This sounds pretty unique--moreso than playing 7 nation army like every other school in the country.



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Nitro

February 25th, 2015 at 1:11 PM ^

No, I might be older, but I can still recgonize a douchey dork when I see one.

And I think you're backwards on how older folk misinterpret teenagers.  I've always seen the opposite occurring: older people think the kids who really aren't that cool are actually cool, not the other way around.  If older people actually think you suck, then you know you have a problem -- you probably really suck a lot.

Also, since Seven Nation Army is a song by a Detroit band, it is inherently distinct for us.  Every other fan base that uses it is kinda really cheering for us without realizing it.

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Ryanonymous

February 25th, 2015 at 12:21 PM ^

Our fight song could never be replaced. We have tradition rich Varsity as well as Temptation in place. So what if we have another song to support our team with?
I mean we also have Lets Go Blue. We could just kill opponents with so many fight songs and spirit songs that we don't even need to play actual games!

/s

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michelin

February 25th, 2015 at 12:50 PM ^

Students proposed changing the nickname of the team from the Wildcats to the Purple Haze.  The latter referred to a very popular Jimi Hendrix song about his hallucinatory experiences on LSD.

 

 

The majority of the student body, which was then in a drug-induced delirium, voted to adopt the nickname.  Several national newspapers reported that the Wildcats were now the Purple Haze.  But the administration vetoed the change.   Students protested to no avail.

More recently, the desire for change peristed. Somebody suggested changing the name to the Fighting Armadillos but they were judged insufficiently fierce.   Since Northwestern was basically the college team of Chicago, somebody suggested a name related to the Chicago Bears---like the Colbears in honor of alum Stephen Colbert (class of 1986).

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Nitro

February 25th, 2015 at 12:58 PM ^

It appears like they're trying to characterize the backlash as being specifically related to whether they're attempting to replace The Victors.  That seems pretty disingenuous.

The main thrust of the backlash is that these are vapid dorks with no clue about what would make something good but still really want to be seen as doing something cool so they're pushing ahead with their wildly inaccurate notions of what's cool (big celebrities, mainstream corporate America trendy buzzthings) and completely empy substance.  It's just corny.

This is what happens when you combine douchey with dorky.  You get maybe the worst thing possible.  My impression is that they're really trying to do have their names associated with something that they imagine will make them campus celebrities at the bar.  It's a desperate attempt for attention, and it's corny.  No one wants something like this officially associated with a school they're associated with by way of their degree.

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SeekingSun

February 25th, 2015 at 1:04 PM ^

It occurs to me that maybe the Hail & Unite push is actually a reflection of wanting to fill the game airways with something other than Seven Nation Army and the Blues Brothers.  While I basically think the whole "give us money and we'll get Eminem to write us a pump-up song" is destined for failure, I do think there is a possibility of this continuing to curve the trajectory that has been such generic music at games (FB & BB mostly).  Children of Yost have been good at asserting themselves at the games in such a way that the use of pipped in music there is kept to a minimum.

At least this pipped in music wouldn't be borrowed from Penn State (who figured out the awesomeness of the White Stripes) and Duke (who has been doing the Blue Brothers dance since the 80s).   Makes UM look lame to repeat it.

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Nitro

February 25th, 2015 at 1:26 PM ^

1. You're giving too much credit to Penn State. Some Italian guy in their media department got the idea from it being used in Italian soccer leagues.  It had nothing to do with awesomeness.

2. If we don't want the same jock rock, why don't we just pick some alternatives from the enormous plethora of availble music out there instead of trying to shart out some corporate-cheese crap?  Just flip through some deep funk albums or some older Italian movie soundtracks.  Or this always gets me hype: soundcloud.com/flyinglotus/coronus-the-terminator.  There's so much that's so much better than what they will end up with from this "make a corporate board structure and hire celebrities" like a dictator commissioning a famous artist to make a patriotic song praising the leadership or face consequences.

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MichiganMAN47

February 25th, 2015 at 1:22 PM ^

I hope Ross didn't teach these kids how to market. Even if they do create a "good" song that's played at the game, I wouldn't be surprised if people boo, simple because of the arrogance displayed throughout this entire process. 

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