Explanation for Why Marvin Robinson hasn't been playing
Accused of home invasion in the second degree (no one home).
http://14adistrictcourt.org/cases/docket/PEX.HTM
Hearing date is November 16th.
[ED:BISB: Held pending confirmation]
[ED:BISB: Okay, so apparently this is a thing]
November 14th, 2011 at 12:40 PM ^
Man, come on!! How/why did Carvin Johnson transfer. He was the depth chart at safety.
November 14th, 2011 at 2:57 PM ^
Because he wanted to be more than just "the depth chart at safety."
November 14th, 2011 at 12:42 PM ^
Wow, you either went digging real deep or you're affiliated with the courts....
November 14th, 2011 at 12:44 PM ^
Or Hoke just addressed this in his presser.
November 14th, 2011 at 12:56 PM ^
Fair enough.
November 14th, 2011 at 12:44 PM ^
Some clarification (per a premium board):
Sounds like it was more of a misunderstanding involving a roommate. Something was taken and thought to be of common use but wasn't and was returned when roommate inquired about it. But police had been called and charges were filed. Doesn't exactly sound serious but obvious caveat of waiting to see what happens.
As for why he hasn't been playing-this isn't why. He has had a concussion for several weeks now. M staff are supposedly planning to seek a medical redshirt for him.
November 14th, 2011 at 1:42 PM ^
Something tells me this wasn't a dispute over the pan you use to cook your ramen noodles.
November 14th, 2011 at 1:49 PM ^
That was my initial reaction too. Charges don't really seem to gel with story.
Just relaying what insiders said about it before board completely freaked out as we tend to do. They made it sound like not much, but charges carry some weight. Who knows what truth is right now? No point in speculating at this point.
November 14th, 2011 at 1:53 PM ^
But it may not matter. Whether we're talking about a borrowed stapler, a borrowed PS3 or a borrowed yacht, if MRob reasonably believed he was permitted to use the object, it isn't larceny, and therefore it isn't 2nd degree home invasion.
In other words, we need more facts to know for sure.
November 14th, 2011 at 2:17 PM ^
Stop spewing out BAR/BRI information. You brought back bad memories and made me throw up in my mouth a little bit. Knock it off.
November 14th, 2011 at 2:42 PM ^
From time to time, I just spew lawness. I feel like Will Ferrell
November 14th, 2011 at 3:04 PM ^
That's the way you IRAC! That's the way you IRAC!
November 14th, 2011 at 4:44 PM ^
That my friend, would be an affirmative defense. But who wants to put those things forward? No one. They just take up time and money that's why 99% of cases don't go to trial. If the prosecutor believes the story, justice is spelled P-L-E-A-D-E-A-L.
November 14th, 2011 at 6:38 PM ^
The prosecution is required to prove all elements of the offense, including mens rea. As such, a lack of intent to commit larceny would not be an affirmative defense here.
That said, he really wouldn't want to take this to trial. His better hope is that the prosecutor believes his take and drops (or reduces) the charges.
November 14th, 2011 at 6:45 PM ^
You are probably right. Still gotta make a jury believe it though. Plea deal is still on the horizon I bet.
November 14th, 2011 at 4:16 PM ^
"M staff are supposedly planning to seek a medical redshirt for him"
According to the stats, he has played in 5 games. That would make him ineligible for a medical hardship waiver.
November 14th, 2011 at 12:46 PM ^
Detroit News says he's got a preliminary hearing set for Wednesday.
November 14th, 2011 at 12:47 PM ^
Yeah, I'd say it's pretty much been confirmed. That sucks big time.
November 14th, 2011 at 12:47 PM ^
We got blake mutha f$&king countess!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 14th, 2011 at 12:49 PM ^
right?
November 14th, 2011 at 12:52 PM ^
Right
November 14th, 2011 at 12:52 PM ^
blake mutha f$&king countess don't play safety brah
November 14th, 2011 at 12:54 PM ^
That is true, but Blake Countess is the reason Troy Woolfolk could move to safety.
November 14th, 2011 at 1:07 PM ^
New nickname? Yes.
November 14th, 2011 at 1:20 PM ^
Jordan MF Kovacs earlier in the year (but rarely applied).
November 14th, 2011 at 1:56 PM ^
Depends on if you're talking about Countess or 'Prison Abs' Robinson.... yeesh
November 14th, 2011 at 3:23 PM ^
Once again, Marvin Robinson is not 'Prison Abs'. Thomas Gordon is 'Prison Abs'.
November 14th, 2011 at 2:55 PM ^
Oh, so now we are taunting the Angry Michigan Safety (and DB) Hating God? Not a good idea, not a good f$&king idea!
November 14th, 2011 at 1:08 PM ^
that should just be settled out of court. Nothing to see here. (my daughter has jury duty in Washtenaw this week, but I don't think preliminary hearings have juries)
November 14th, 2011 at 2:25 PM ^
You're right. A preliminary hearing does not normally have a sitting jury.
This will likely be settled once the county attorney and Marvin's attorney meet and discuss the evidence / surrounding circumstances.
November 14th, 2011 at 1:10 PM ^
This sounds like some serious Judge Judy type of dispute.
November 14th, 2011 at 1:19 PM ^
| CR-W-11-0001599 FH | PERTEET, RICHARD LOUIS | PRELIMINARY EXAM - JG SWARTZ | POWELL, LLOYD E | |||
| Count: | 001 | FORGERY | ||||
| 002 | UTTERING & PUBLISHING | |||||
Uttering & Publishing?? Oh man, that's not coming off his record anytime soon...
(I Googled this apparently it's punishable by up to 14 years in prison. Moral of the story: don't utter and publish.)
November 14th, 2011 at 1:21 PM ^
Uttering and publishing generally involves attempting to use stolen checks.
November 14th, 2011 at 1:26 PM ^
November 14th, 2011 at 1:22 PM ^
If I remember correctly uttering and publishing is either writing bad checks or stealing someone's checkbook and then writing checks in their name.
November 14th, 2011 at 1:25 PM ^
http://legislature.mi.gov/doc.aspx?mcl-750-532
Any man who shall seduce and debauch any unmarried woman shall be guilty of a felony, punishable by imprisonment in the state prison not more than 5 years or by fine of not more than 2,500 dollars.
November 14th, 2011 at 1:36 PM ^
Debauchry is only 2.5k? Hmmmm....
November 14th, 2011 at 2:30 PM ^
WOW, does that mean you can seduce and debauch any married woman without recourse?!?
(Law works in mysterious ways.)
November 14th, 2011 at 2:39 PM ^
http://legislature.mi.gov/doc.aspx?mcl-750-30
Any person who shall commit adultery shall be guilty of a felony; and when the crime is committed between a married woman and a man who is unmarried, the man shall be guilty of adultery, and liable to the same punishment.
November 14th, 2011 at 3:05 PM ^
That if i liked it, then I should've put a ring on it?
Legally speaking of course.
November 14th, 2011 at 3:13 PM ^
Still cheaper than marrying her
November 14th, 2011 at 5:21 PM ^
Do they take Diner's Club?
November 14th, 2011 at 2:07 PM ^
If I recall from my lawyering days, in Michigan writing a bad check is uttering and publishing.
November 14th, 2011 at 1:19 PM ^
FYI, for those who are interested, here is a definition of 2nd degree home invasion (per onecle, re-formatted for clarity):
A person is guilty of 2nd degree home invasion if...
- A person breaks and enters a dwelling with intent to commit a felony, larceny, or assault in the dwelling.
- A person enters a dwelling without permission with intent to commit a felony, larceny, or assault in the dwelling.
- A person breaks and enters a dwelling or enters a dwelling without permission and, at any time while he or she is entering, present in, or exiting the dwelling, commits a felony, larceny, or assault.
November 14th, 2011 at 1:33 PM ^
We'll see. The charge suggest something greater than a penny-ante issue between roommates. So, unless or until the case is resolved, let's not do the OSU thing and dismiss it as nothing.
November 14th, 2011 at 2:44 PM ^
Innocent until proven guilty, no?
November 14th, 2011 at 3:22 PM ^
They'll do the Michigan thing and redshirt him.
November 14th, 2011 at 1:45 PM ^
Prison abs to get more prisony?
November 14th, 2011 at 1:56 PM ^
Thomas Gordon is prison abs.