ESPN FPI Predicts 8.3 Wins for 2017 Season

Submitted by GoBlueDenver on

ESPN's FPI Predicts 8.3 wins for 2017 season

"...Projected results are based on 10,000 simulations of the rest of the season using FPI, results to date, and the remaining schedule."

1. OSU 11.8-1.0

2. Bama 10.6-1.9

3. Oklahoma 11.0-1.9

4. FSU 10.4-2.2

.

8. PSU 9.9-2.2

.

10. Wisc 10.6-2.2

.

17. Michigan 8.3-3.7

 

" If you’re wondering why the totals don’t add up to whole numbers – that’s because it factors in the odds of each team reaching and winning/losing the Big Ten title game." (collegespun)

 
Now lets take a look at our schedule:
 
9/2 vs Florida
9/9 vs Cincinnati
9/16 vs Air Force
9/23 @ Purdue
10/7 vs MSU
10/14 @ Indiana
10/21 @ PSU
10/28 vs Rutgers
11/4 vs Minnesota
11/11 @ Maryland
11/18 @ Wisconsin
11/25 vs OSU
 
------
 
Not difficult to find 3-4 losses if you're a pessimist, but this team is going to surprise some people outside of our community.

SF Wolverine

April 18th, 2017 at 11:32 AM ^

Getting a win against Florida will help get us to 10.  I get the schedule; hard for me to see a JH team in Year 3 drop 8 regular season games.  After Florida, this schedule sets up well for a young team, with some relatively easy B10 games to start (yes, Spaty, I am looking at you).

NittanyFan

April 18th, 2017 at 11:43 AM ^

the annual rite of a thread with a prediction on a college football message board devolving into many posters being outraged at said prediction, and questioning the prediction's methodology.

One thing I've learned about college football --- teams (and their internal chemistry, a very under-rated intangible) tend to vary WILDLY from year-to-year, even if they have a bunch of returning starters.

It's very hard to fit a statistical model that leverages last year's results to predict this year's results.  The "error bars" tend to be rather large.

19 weeks and 4 days to go until we get some actual, empirical results.

Bodogblog

April 18th, 2017 at 11:59 AM ^

I get that PSU recovered amazingly well and had a great year.  That's to Franklin's credit and the rest of the team.  But Michigan fans saw the obliteration in Ann Arbor last year, and through that lens saw a pretty lucky outing against Ohio State.  Few in this fanbase are going to be as optimistic on PSU as the national pundits until we see a little more data, and rightfully against Michigan.  

This is a "good team, on the road in a very hostile environment" thing for me.  Might be hard for a young team to win there if things go poorly early.  But it's not at all a "#8 team in the country, they're going to be excellent and very hard to beat" thing.  

Michigan4Life

April 18th, 2017 at 1:41 PM ^

plus that one LB who was unfairly ejected over the stupid ass helmet to helmet rule. It shouldn't be surprising that Michigan offense was able to dominate against a 2nd string defense.

I felt that PSU got away from using Saquon Barkley where they should just feed him the damn ball 80% of the time.

A healthy PSU team would make for a far different game, but it's moot point because Michigan dominated as they should against an undermanned PSU team. PSU beat OSU, Wisconsin and nearly beat USC. They're a good team who deserved to win the B1G.

njsteve

April 18th, 2017 at 2:51 PM ^

I got tired of hearing about our total destruction of PSU last year at the end of the season discussions about bowl berths, etc. They had none of their starting LBs against Michigan. The unfairly ejected guy was a walk-on. (They were good enough to be conference champs in anything but a huge fluke, but they weren't generally the team Michigan had the fortune to meet.)

Bodogblog

April 18th, 2017 at 5:37 PM ^

So what was that worth?  3 touchdowns?  Generous, that's a lot in football.  

Michigan still won by more than 3 scores.  It was over by halftime.  Franklin was kicking field goals to avoid a shutout in the 3rd quarter.  It could have easily been Miami of Ohio or Kent State or any other bodybag school that showed up that day.  

It's an outlier on their schedule, but it's a cricitally important data point.  

snowcrash

April 18th, 2017 at 2:35 PM ^

This team is still very raw and Florida has a lot of talent. Losing to them would be a disappointment but not a shock. We also have enough question marks on offense and even on defense to gack up one or two games from the group of Indiana, MSU, Minnesota, Maryland, and maybe even Purdue because it's on the road. 

That said I think our ceiling is around 11-1. We're depending heavily on guys who didn't play much or at all last year, but for the most part they shouldn't have expected to play much because the guys in front of them were so good. Most likely, some will be as good as or better than the guys they replaced, and some won't be good enough to start for Purdue. If we get mostly the former, we could see 10 or 11 wins. Mostly the latter, 6 or 7. I think this team has more uncertainty than almost any other team in the country.  

maize-blue

April 18th, 2017 at 11:42 AM ^

Over. I don't buy PSU. I think we can take down OSU. It won't be an undefeated season but 8 wins would be a tragedy.

lbpeley

April 18th, 2017 at 11:45 AM ^

"That's not enough"!

Since I am not a pessimist, I've got the toss ups as being osu and @ psu. Therefore, 10 wins with 12 likely but in the interest of not being a kool aid drinker I'll say 12 is not guaranteed. But likely. With 13,14 and 15 probable as well. Even likely. Probably.

Icehole Woody

April 18th, 2017 at 11:50 AM ^

OK good. I like watching Michigan beat a higher ranked Nitt team. Listening to all the Penn State fans bloviate in advanced is loads of fun. Better than listening to them make excuses as has been the case recently.

lhglrkwg

April 18th, 2017 at 12:02 PM ^

Just watched the highlights vs PSU again to make sure im not forgetting something.

Nope, PSU just sucked and ended the season massively overrated. Not buying the hype. Good teams don't lose to anyone by 39

 

 

M-Dog

April 18th, 2017 at 12:09 PM ^

But . . .but . . . their starting linebackers were out.

So you have to spot them a touchdown.  

Or maybe two touchdowns.  

Or maybe three touchdowns.  

Or maybe four touchdowns.  

Or maybe . . . nope, still not enough.

You are right, Penn State was overrated.

Perkis-Size Me

April 18th, 2017 at 12:12 PM ^

Not totally unreasonable. The Florida game is a push, IMHO, and we've got to play at Wisconsin and at Penn State. 

I'm in the camp of "I'll believe Franklin can beat Harbaugh when he actually beats him," but I guarantee that game will be a night game, so it's going to be tough. Playing at Camp Randall is going to suck, and then OSU is OSU. Not completely unreasonable to think we lose 2-3 of those games. 

Lot of talent on this team, but its young and inexperienced. I think 2017 is a slight transition year, going anywhere from 8-4 to 10-2, and then 2018 is where things really start taking off. That's when you've got Harbaugh's top 10 classes starting to grow into being experienced upperclassmen. 

Perkis-Size Me

April 18th, 2017 at 2:06 PM ^

I mean sure its the mark, but I'm not holding my breath on it this year. Just too much to replace. Too many guys with no experience. 

I'm thinking this will be a team that takes a few games at the beginning of the year to get their feet wet, and then really starts to hit their stride by November, finishes strong, and paves the way for CFP contention in 2018.

bronxblue

April 18th, 2017 at 12:18 PM ^

I mean...okay.  Simulations are only as good as the data they have to use, and while I get the value in taking returning production and throwing it into a blender, this feels a bit loose.  At the same time, 8-9 wins wouldn't be crazy.

markusr2007

April 18th, 2017 at 12:41 PM ^

 
9/2 vs Florida                     W
9/9 vs Cincinnati               W
9/16 vs Air Force               W
9/23 @ Purdue                  W
10/7 vs MSU                       W
10/14 @ Indiana                W
10/21 @ PSU                      L
10/28 vs Rutgers               W
11/4 vs Minnesota             W
11/11 @ Maryland              W
11/18 @ Wisconsin           L
11/25 vs OSU                     W

YoOoBoMoLloRoHo

April 18th, 2017 at 12:59 PM ^

Hoke's players, no winning mentality and no QB to 9-3 regular season in year 1. In year 3, JH is supposed to take 10-3 team with mostly his players and 2 QBs to 8-4? Just don't see it. JH is a tremendous game manager and this team seems to have more competitive edge. 3 losses should be the floor and 2 should be the expectation.

YoOoBoMoLloRoHo

April 19th, 2017 at 9:34 AM ^

spring game this year was light years ahead of 2015. Just rewatch the 2015 Spring - it was abysmal. Experienced rosters that don't understand the effort and focus necessary to win are often worse than young rosters. 2015 had mediocre LBs, sketchy secondary, weak OL, minimal WR readiness, 1 TE, walkon kicker, and QB transfer. Entirely new system and performance standards. Total culture overhaul. They went 9-3 and arguably had more bad luck than good. This squad and the whole program are on a different level.

COLBlue

April 18th, 2017 at 1:56 PM ^

Because Michigan is not deep at some areas, I will go with 10+ wins if there are little to no lasting injuries in those areas. Possibly a couple more losses if lasting injuries take a toll...

Solecismic

April 18th, 2017 at 2:25 PM ^

I like to run football simulations based on various concepts. At this point, you can either try to project individual development (very difficult given the lack of consistent scouting and performance information at the college level) or you can use clunky tools like number of returning starters, which has its obvious weaknesses. I'm sure when I do my college ratings, Michigan will be similarly undervalued. Simulations have their value, but they're only as good as the research that goes into them. Phil Steele is this crazy guy in a wizard hat with endless energy for applying a consistent metric to something that defies exactly that. I look forward to his annual preview.

mickblue

April 18th, 2017 at 2:27 PM ^

We probably lose once vs. Florida or Wisconsin. Season as usual comes down to Ohio State. Penn State not a problem and Sparty party is history. Soul cleansing time when MSU comes to Big House. If you're a Sparty it won't be pretty.

Perkis-Size Me

April 18th, 2017 at 5:03 PM ^

I'm not sure why people are thinking PSU is a given. Yes, we beat them mercilessly to a pulp last Fall, but that was at home against a discombobulated team still trying to figure out what the hell it was doing on offense. This is almost definitely going to be a white out AND a night game at Happy Valley. After watching PSU beat OSU last year, it wouldn't shock me in the slightest if they finally broke through and beat us. 

Then we have to play at Camp Randall, which is never easy. Florida is a push, and OSU is OSU. While I don't think this will happen, I wouldn't be surprised if we lost all four of those games.

Ty Butterfield

April 18th, 2017 at 2:41 PM ^

Sounds about right. After years of drinking the koolaid I am skeptical until Michigan can deliver when it counts.

socalwolverine1

April 18th, 2017 at 8:17 PM ^

For whatever reason, Beaver Stadium is not the "Bermuda Triangle" for us like Kinnick Stadium, where we show up in Michigan uniforms and then play like we're Rutgers.  We played very well at Penn State two years ago; and then of course embarrassed them last year in our House; and clearly we're in their heads now, in the same way OSU is in ours (ugh!).

PSU will be out for revenge this year, but emotion can only take them so far.  I'll take our team, our preparation, and our coaches over their's any day.