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On a more positive note this

On a more positive note this kid is underated and could be a great Full or H back for Michigan. That's great speed for that size.

Magnus who do you think we

Magnus who do you think we get in this class if any. Friday,Frere,Oweh, Chase, Reese, Patterson. Osu is killing it once again. Very nervous with recruiting. Two instate top fifty o-lineman next year and brown commiting to Wisconsin. I don't get it. You can't lose guys instate that are tops in the country. I am very disappointed in losing Brown and Dobbs. That is flat out a complete failure on Harbaugh. I'm sorry but those guys should be top prority. Not like were pumping out all americans on our o-line and you have two top twenty guys in your back yard and you can't get them. That is a complete fuckin fuck up in recruiting and that's being nice. Brown, Dobb's and barnett should have been top priority from the jump. I don't get it. Is there a coach at Bellevile derailing this or something. Of course that does'nt explain Brown. I really don't get it. If Harbaugh does not recruit better on o and d line we are dead in the water. Osu just picked up toglia or whatever from Idaho. He is a flat out stud. Michigan has one of the best d-line coaches in the country and kids want to play for fat ass johnson at osu. Poggi did not do shit for Michigan with the kid headed for Alabama which is a long way from Maryland. I am usually pretty optimistic with Harbaugh's recruiting but with the o and d line they are a day late and a dollar short. Oweh and the poggi kid Anoma are guys Michigan has to get. If Harbaugh says he is taking the gloves off then he needs to start with the recruiting. They allready fucked up by not letting anderson in. He would have walked into osu along with juco's that help them win.

Michigan has zero dt's in this recruiting class. If that doesn't have everyone concerned I don't know what to say. DT and OT should be number one in every recruiting cycle and where is Michigan. They have two developmental in state lower ranked kids at OT. That just flat out won't cut it if your goal is winning any type of championship.

 

So much can change with

So much can change with actually having a threat at the QB position. Watch out for Gentry next season along with Mckeon, but Gentry is more of a mismatch than Butt was. He is taller and faster. Don't know if he will be an all american but they should target him a lot and that is a staple with Patterson, if he wins the job.

Ruiz could also be a future all-american but I doubt next year. You are right on the money with those four, but maybe Patterson also. I really hope Winovich comes back and he should have been an all-american this year if you look at his stats. Way more than doubled Bosa's. Don't even get me started on that bullshit. There really are some people out there who just need there ass kicked.

One thing about Brady Hoke, that guy knows d-line talent. I didn't think much about Hurst as a recruit at all, but man he humbled me. Class act that is one tough and good d-tackle. I think we will be talking about Solomon in a couple years the same way. He could be an all american easily in a couple years.

I think Gary and Hill are shoe ins for all-american honors along with Winovich. Tell me Mattison can't develop d-lineman. That fat ass at osu is not even in the same league.

Ya -4 up here by Cadillac

Ya -4 up here by Cadillac yesterday morning. Was thinking the same thing. A lot to look for in the spring game this year with the QB battle and the o-line. That's the indicator of the season, so hopefully the offense can pick it up. We know we can run the ball so pass protection should be paramount. We know QB play is going to be much better no matter who wins the starting job. Really looking forward to see how Peters performs in the bowl game.

If we can get a vertical passing game going, I really think Higdon and Evans can really tear it up this year. With our receiving corps and a defense that should be better than last years it really comes down to pass pro and QB play. If those two things change for the positive it could really become almost unfair for teams on our schedule. The talent is there over any team in the big ten and I really believe that. OSU is right there, but Michigan has better coaching IMO and I think this year it really shows and a lot of Harbaugh haters will get humbled.

On another note, love me some Mo Hurst and am not going to chose, but him or Winovich not winning big ten player of the year is just flat out bullshit. Winovich had like fifty more tackles than Bosa at the same position and Hurst had like thirty more at DT. Sorry but I hate everything about osu and this bias against everything Michigan is wearing thin. I hope we can finish up this recruiting cycle with Frere, Oweh, chase, Patterson, Friday and keeping Reese. Are we going to get any of those guys. Frere to me is number one guy. OSU thinks there getting Friday know that schiano visited him and he is visiting Alabama. Just getting nervous.

Don't want to change the thread but can anyone tell me why Logan Brown is committed to Wisconsin. I thought he was all Michigan and then there is the Dobb's and Barnett thing. Why isn't Harbaugh closing the deal on these in state guys like he did in the beginning. It is really troubling to lose two top o-lineman who live less than an hour from campus.

Ben's allright if you don't

Ben's allright if you don't mind him raping your sister.

Iowa has a no visit policy

Iowa has a no visit policy and he is visiting. Huh. Sounds like something has to give.

Quiet, humble, well spoken

Quiet, humble, well spoken good guy. Definitely one of my all time favorites for sure. Could see him on the lions. I really pull for guys like big MO. Class act for sure.

What is the draw to saban. I

What is the draw to saban. I really don't understand the attraction. The guy is a complete dishonest hypocritical piece of shit. I guess some kid's parents embrace those types.

You would think having poggi as his coach would help, but obviously I am wrong.

Who cares. Both of the guys

Who cares. Both of the guys we allready have are bigger and faster. MM is way better and were still in it for Ford.

Changing the subject, but osu getting togliaaaa or whatever his name is bad. He is there best recruit IMO. Of Course he will have to beat Ruiz. I sure hope we close on somebody this cycle. Frere is the main dude IMO. He is a flat out stud. I would take him over that fat fuck Carman who osu's whole world revolves around.

I do have a question. Whu does osu think they have a better D-line coach than us. Mattison's resume is just a little more complete if you ask me.

Barrett is a way better get

Barrett is a way better get than Tremble. We are not out of it for Ford either. Frey just visited him.

Sorry but Tremble is not a loss in my book.

Osu guys putting in CB's for

Osu guys putting in CB's for osu. Amazing. I just can't figure it out. Osu just lost there best recruit imo to Alabama. Cox and the QB were the guys I wanted to decommit. One out of two so far. There will be others. Woodbey will stay out west. High rated safety will go to Oklahoma. If they lose there QB to Alabama their class is not what it once was.

I don't know where Friday will go, but he is good friends with Gary so will see.

Van Jefferson is a slot guy.

Van Jefferson is a slot guy. I really hope Michigan can get Luke Ford. I would easily take the two guys we allready got over tremble.

Losing out on Anderson is way worse. Are safety play is not good. I fully expect J. Woods though to take over one of the safety positions. Maybe powell shows up a little more as he was only a freshman.

Frere, Patterson, Oweh, Chase, Ford and Friday and keeping Reese. These guys should be Michigan's main concerns. Harbaugh needs to close on these guys. These are the guys who make or break this years class.

Luke Ford !!!!.

Luke Ford !!!!.

The academic standards should

The academic standards should be the same for every school in the big ten. Sheffield flunks out of Alabama of all places and blam one year later he waltzes right into osu slick as you please. The admission office puts Michigan at a disadvantage and if we have shoty safety play that is where to point. Why should Michigan's admissions for football players be any different than anyone else in the big ten?.

It is a complete disadvantage and admissions should be standardized. Truth be told, without even looking it up, I hardly doubt there are many collegiate football players who went on to become neuro surgeons.

Here's the new standard for top 100 players. If he received at least one C in high school or a university in which they are transferring from they are in. Of course if you want to keep giving advantages to osu, then don't ever bitch about losing to them. It would not surprise me if they had kids that are borderline illiterate.

Standerdized admissions throughout the big ten. Whether they are tougher or easier I don't care, but there are several teams that have a unfair disadvantage and they use it. Look at the recruiting at osu. Good football players but they all need a fall guy. Don't even get me started with alabama. Have you ever heard derrick henry speak. Alabama should flat out be embarrassed. That''s your Heisman trophy winner. Would love to see his transcripts.

 

If Filiaga is starting then

If Filiaga is starting then that means Bredeson or Owenu is on the bench. Not likely. My guess is Hudson at LT with JBB at RT. If Michigan can sign Frere and Patterson this year we are good at the tackle spot for a long time. If either of the Michigan kids beat out those two, then they ended up being very good.

Of course you are correct in thinking if stueber beats out JBB, then we got an upgrade and maybe a three year starter. I have not seen Hudson play so I will exclude him, but I really hope we can get Frere and Patterson because they are better than any tacle Michigan has currently.

So if Michigan wins 10 or

So if Michigan wins 10 or more I win. I'll take that bet.

Maybe not inevitable but

Maybe not inevitable but possible.

Why would anyone in their

Why would anyone in their right mind mention Okorn and Patterson in the same sentence. If you think Okorn and Patterson are similar in any way your thought process may just be a little flawed. I would not guarantee Patterson starting next year, but he averaged over three hundred yards a game in the SEC. JOK could not throw for three hundred yards in any game and Patterson did it easily against good competition.

I don't care who starts next year, but one thing I will gaurantee you is he will be much better than JOK. After I saw Okorn play against Indiana last year I knew what his talent level was. Patterson brings a little bit more to the party so I could see why people are excited.

One loss Michigan jumps one

One loss Michigan jumps one loss Alabama and anyone else in the country. Michigan will be playing at least five ranked teams and probably three or four top ten teams. ND,osu,wsu and psu. I think that trumps anyone elses schedule by a long shot.

I also like JBB size and how

I also like JBB size and how he helped with the run game. Michigan actually has some good tackles IMO. Have to pick up line stunts and late blitzes. We should be able to move people in the run game and that is the number one thing and build from there.

We do but they were red

We do but they were red shirted. Hudson and Stueber will probably be the starters at tackle, unless newsome is all the way back. I think Hudson is going to be as stud. They are way more athletic than JBB, but will see.

Sir the recruit has a

Sir the recruit has a Question sir. I use to just laugh when i heard that in basic, because you knew pain was coming. Usually just humiliation but sometimes physical if the Question was beyond stupid, which of course anyone stupid enough to ask a D.I. a question. Well.

Sir the private requests permission to be thrashed sir. Was'nt fun while in basic, but can laugh at it know. Hey dummy don't ask D.I.'s questions.

Well your friends in east

Well your friends in east lansing are delusional. The problem with Dantonio always flipping his gums is that he has to beat Michigan every year or he is going to get ripped a new one. Msu does not have the talent Michigan has and it isn't even close. If Lewerke evr gets dinged they will be back to 3-9 so fast it will make your head swim.

I really don't care if sparty fans are scared or delusional. The losses to Michigan will be coming soon enough. This is based on the fact that Michigan is just a better football team and will be until Harbaugh leaves. I would gladly bet any sparty fan a boat load of cash on any future game straight up. I don't think your going to find a lot of sparty fans willing to do that.

I actually miss both of those

I actually miss both of those guys. I argued with Yost a few times, but nothing major. I thought he had some good posts and some that just were out there, but he gave commentary and really seemed to care about Michigan football. Same for Maizen. They both seemed passionate, but maybe they took things to far. I am kind of desensitized to that so I kind of just got a kick out of the trantrums. I guess I just laughed and moved on.

I like the angry and beligerent guys. The posters I can stand are the trolls with there silly comments that have zero to do with Michigan football. The guys who have to write dilly dilly fifteen times or other silly and immature crap that makes zero sense to me. If your passinate about Michigan football than your cool with me. I guess they went outside of the limits. I don't know. I rarely down vote anyone. I just skip to the next comment and so on.

I can't say I was happy with

I can't say I was happy with the osu loss, but there sure were a lot of positives to take from that game. I thought for sure the game would not even be competitive, so that in itself was a pleasant surprise. I thought the team may not show up because of the QB situation. They not only showed up, but had a chance to win in the end. Of course, because of the afore mentioned problem it did not work out in the Wolverines favor.

Of course there is the wait til next year thing, but really next year things will look much different. I think you will see a lot more one sided victories, where we play two and maybe three QB's. The o-line will look a lot more cohesive and dominant and because of actually havinf a QB who can throw the ball, it will open up the run game even more. I see Higdon and Evans both going over one thousand yards or getting really close. Evans will probably get more passes thrown his way. I thought we would be moving forward with Peters at the helm, but will see with Patterson in the mix. I personally think adding Patterson gives Michigan the Best QB in the big ten. Just let that sink in for a minute, going from having the worst QB to the best in the big ten.

With the defense Michigan is going to field next year, and having at least good QB play, the sky is the limit for this team. We will see what happens in the bowl game, but I expect Michigan to roll big in this one. Do not be surprised that when the college rankings come out that Michigan is a top four team and favored to win the big ten.

Oweh,Ford and Chase are

Oweh,Ford and Chase are definite takes.

 

 

You is what you is!!!!.

You is what you is!!!!.

You said that perfectly. That

You said that perfectly. That is exactly where Michigan's concerns lie. They will get the players, they just want them to be able to play next year. Ole miss allready threw out some lame statement that really means nothing, but until the eligibility is ruled on Michigan just wants it to remain quiet.

The lawsuit hanging over the ncaa and ole miss heads is why I believe the players will get there eligibility. Michigan is rightfully being cautious mainly because their waiting on the ruling, not anything to do with players transferring. Ole Miss has allready given permission for that allthough reluctantly as they had zero choice. I also think there is zero choice in the waivers, but will see.

I have no idea what you are

I have no idea what you are even talking about. Michigan is not concerned about illegal incentives. This has to do with what can be said at this time. Like someone allready mentioned they just want the transition to go smoothly with no tampering violations or the such.

This why reporters and probably the players were told no interveiws. I am sure all of this will change once they are part of the football team and not until there signed. Michigan has zero to do with anything ole miss has done and that investigation is done and I am sure ole miss wants it to stay done. That is why I highly doubt they want any lawsuit from the players. This also plays into it and is the reason the players were allowed to transfer without restrictions. This is also why I believe they will get waivers to play this year.

With all that going on Michigan just wants to keep everything low key and avoid any violations. It has zero to do with any incentives or any of that alledged b.s..

Would love to watch him try

Would love to watch him try and block Gary one on one, but Villain will run around this guy like he is standing still. I guess they could try him at guard but they better have a really tall qb.

Fleck annoys the hell out of me and really don't see Minnesota doing much more than usual. The teams killing it in recruiting are the same three as usual.

Then the ncaa will be hit

Then the ncaa will be hit with a federal civil lawsuit in which they will lose.

I think they feel good about

I think they feel good about all six of those guys and they are all takes, so obviously there are more transfers coming.Friday, Oweh and Frere are game changers and if Michigan gets those three and Chase this class is really good. Lets see how Michigan closes.

Speight left because he was

Speight left because he was not going to beat out Brandon Peters. Michigan was not going to bring in Patterson with Speight  there. Speight knew they were leaning towards Peters and rightfully so. Peters is a better QB than Speight. I think Patterson is a better college QB than Peters. Much like Manzel being way better than a lot of QB's that are in the nfl while they were in college. Example J.T. Barrett voted offensive player of the year in the big ten at QB. I highly doubt this guy even gets drafted unless he wants to go play in Canada.

Patterson is way better than J.T. Barrett. He makes a lot of plays with his legs and extends plays that Peters just can not at this point. Peters has size and may throw better from the pocket, but Patterson will extend plays and run around. This will get him killed in the nfl, but this is college ball and he is going to kill teams playing for Michigan.

Peters will get a lot of playing time next year also. They are both going to play. Michigan will have several games to get the back up in for extended playing time. I see Patterson and Peters both going to the nfl.

To be honest I have no idea why this is being debated because the reality is Patterson will be on Michigan's team next year and so will Brandon Peters. Who will be starting?. Nobody know's at this time. Is the team going to be better with Patterson on the team?. Stupid Question. Is the team better with Anderson and Van Jefferson?. Another stupid question.

I see a lot of buckshit fans who think they will be ranked in the top four next year and #1 in the big ten. I DON'T THINK SO!!!!!!  I think the Michigan Wolverines will be the favorites. Thanks to Patterson, Anderson and Van Jefferson.

And then Peters has to sit

And then Peters has to sit out the year anyways. That makes zero sense especially if Patterson is one and done. Peters has to up root, go to where?, and then compete there also. QB's that transfer usually go to better teams not worse. Stidham, Mayfield and on and on. I think you are really selling Peters short on this one and he gains absolutely nothing by transferring.

I do believe Patterson

I do believe Patterson reached out to Harbaugh before Speight made the decision to transfer. There were two reasons Harbaugh did not reach out. One: Speight  Two: Waiver to play this year. Here's a risk for you if you want one. Patterson to osu.msu.psu.wsu. There's your risk.

If Patterson is not all that, then you have Peters with experience backing up. I think Harbaugh felt pretty good with Peters and Speight backing him up. He did not know Patterson wanted to come to Michigan and he had no room anyways. Room opened up and he knew Patterson wanted to come to Michigan and blam there is your no brainer.

I will make it real simple how i feel about getting Shea Patterson. He gives Michigan  the best QB in the big ten. I really feel it is that simple. I also think Harbaugh feels the same way and anyone who thinks they have a better feel for the QB position then Jim Harbaugh......uhh, well you better have some lofty crendentials.

Had to try and come back a

Had to try and come back a lot. There defense was not good and from what I heard, many of the interceptions were because he had to force things. That will not be the case at Michigan.

I for one am looking forward to the competition between Patterson and Peters. I personally believe  Patterson will perform at another level especially under Harbaugh. Funny that people would think Peters would leave as I think this will only strengthen him. He will get his chances to play and I think both players will be drafted in the first round.

Peters just needs to grow, but Patterson is at a whole other level. He will be very exciting to watch and I am sure the naysayers will be like " man I sure am glad we got that guy, I told you he was good "...............ya right.

Stidham and Mayfield. I think

Stidham and Mayfield. I think the Heisman trophy winner would be enough for you. I won't even bother with the rest.

To some degree you are

To some degree you are correct, but Patterson will definitely have to go under center more. If he can operate out of both shotgun and under center it will really open up Harbaugh's offense even more.

Don't discount Anderson and

Don't discount Anderson and Van Jefferson. These guys can flat out play. They both fill holes and will be starting.

Once again over dramatic and

Once again over dramatic and sensitive. I did not call anyone stupid, I said the statement was stupid. I also see mostly everyone agrees with me. I won't bother attacking your statements because I see it has allready been taken care of.

The thing is if you do want me to call someone stupid, that would be anyone who does not want Michigan to take Patterson. I could see the same people when he ends up at osu,psu or msu saying boy why did'nt we get that guy.

We also are getting a very good starting safety and an experienced WR who also is very good. These guys are coming because of Patterson. All top 100 kids that fill weak spots in the roster. Sorry but fail to comprehend anyone not wanting these guys.

How in the world is there

How in the world is there risk adding three starters to your team. Adding the #1 QB from 2016 class. Adding a talented receiver with experience. Also adding a very good safety, a position that was a weakness. Adding these three players is flat out genious, but you call it a risk.

No reason to explain because this move is a no brainer. Risk?. Risk we might just win the big ten and more. How the fuck can it blow up in Harbaughs face. Adding three nfl types to your team. If you were just trying to make a stupid statement you succeded. Congrats.

I am more than perplexed on

I am more than perplexed on who will be in this class and who will fit. I forgot about Frere, Ya will take him also.

There will be a lot of people moving on with the three ole miss players coming on board. Don't have a clue how it will all work. All I know is we will be really good next year.

Milton is backup for Doyle.

Milton is backup for Doyle.

Michigan adds Friday, oweh,

Michigan adds Friday, oweh, chase and a couple others.. Hope we don't lose reese. Michigan is looking like the number one defense next year. I expect a lot from solomon and hope Winovich returns. Will be better at safety and linebacker. Solomon needs to get his boy's head on straight.

Obviously some guys will be leaving, but Michigan will know be fielding a complete football team. We wiil see how the Tackle positions play out but if the o-line picks it up watch out. I see Michigan ranked right near the top and number one in the big ten to start next year.

The waivers will come or the

The waivers will come or the ncaa and ole miss can plan on a class action lawsuit from ole miss players. They were openly lied to by Freeze about what the sanctions would be. I highly doubt the ncaa and especially ole miss want federal investigators uncovering more wrong doings in a case they are sure to lose. They really have no choice unless they want everthing that was going on at ole miss revealed to the public. This could hurt the ncaa and ole miss in so many ways, I personally feel the waivers are a done deal.

I do believe Michigan is

I do believe Michigan is after Mathews and he has shown some interest. Little is a no go and that is a shame. It does'nt matter as I feel by adding Patterson, Anderson and Van Jefferson we will be ranked easily in the top four next year.

All three of these guys will be starters and have nfl type talent. Still lost on why anyone would be hesitant on Patterson. I guess some guys on here would rather see him at osu or psu. Ya think about that for a while. Getting Patterson on board is flat out a major win for Michigan football along with the other players. It puts Michigan squarely on top of the big ten, but some on here are hesitant.................unbelievable.

Parental guidance.

Parental guidance.

At least we know if someone

At least we know if someone from Michigan wins the heisman, they will be able to speak in a reasonably intelligent manner.

Look at the coaches of the

Look at the coaches of the top four schools. That pretty much sums it up.

That's the point. Didn't they

That's the point. Didn't they just lift the restrictions to avoid backlash and a lawsuit. If you have lifted restrictions and given every player permission to transfer, how in the fuck can anyone tamper with them. They are know unrestricted free agents.

At this point, it's like the guy realized what he did and is having a temper tantrum, has zero legal standing so know Ole Miss is just going to threaten people. They had to lift the restrictions and know that players are actually going to leave...........uhh what. Sorry I don't get it.

Your whore chasing coach did this to you. Your blatant cheating did this to you. Your arrogance did this to you and know you threaten people for what you just told the players they could do. You are not on the level of the devils lair Baylor, but you are just plain dumb. If you are going to cheat at least take a course at Alabama on how to use the bagman and cover your tracks. Give that slime fuck Saban a call. I am sure for a fee he will help. Sorry check that he is the one who requested the investigation because you guys where kicking his ass. I am sure that shit clown made some calls as he runs the ncaa.

Two of the guys Michigan is taking sat out this year and were transferring for sure. That is Patterson and Anderson. I am sure Michigan will get Van Jefferson also, but if Michigan can get Mathews also I can see ole miss getting pissed. I am sure they are trying to keep guys like Little who mentioned Oklahoma. I don't know who this is directed at, but Michigan will be signing these four guys and moving on.  Just like to say thanks Coach Freeze you immoral tird.     P.S. next time take Saban's class Proper use of the bagman 101.