alum96

December 4th, 2014 at 11:53 PM ^

I would have to think Carr feels humbled after the Hoke fiasco.  I forgot what game it was but the last public image we have of Carr was standing up, and leaving his box early for whichever game of Hoke - it was still mid season. 

It was symbolic as hell.

turd ferguson

December 4th, 2014 at 10:51 PM ^

This is probably dumb, but is it a good sign that Carr said, "If I had a choice, I would choose Jim Harbaugh, but it will be Jim Hackett's decision"?  I mean, Carr supposedly has been in touch with Harbaugh, and that's a very different comment from, "If I had a choice, I would choose Jim Harbaugh, but Jim will have a lot of great opportunities to choose from."

That's dumb and I'm reading too much into that, right?

Lakeyale13

December 4th, 2014 at 10:52 PM ^

Rupert Jones = Head Coach Darrel Evans = OC Lance Parrish = DC Tom Brookens = Special teams Figured these would be appropriate since it feels like 1984 since we were good.

JJL

December 4th, 2014 at 10:54 PM ^

We have to assume Carr is still very connected to what's going on.

To me this seems very strange but in a good way.

It makes wonder that JH is coming and Carr is saying this publicly so later he looks like he was on board from the very beginning.

No way Carr dropped the nugget of information for no reason. I mean for someone so tied to the program to endorse the by far fan favorite for the job has much deeper meaning then just being his off the cusp opinion

It's happening

Lakeyale13

December 4th, 2014 at 11:00 PM ^

Or, he could just be stating the obvious. Jim Harbaugh is Coach Carr's, and 99.9% of every other Wolverine's, first choice. But reading into it some DaVinci Code magic that creates a narrative to bring our hopes and dreams into dillusional reality is more fun....and more painful.

JJL

December 4th, 2014 at 11:04 PM ^

All I'm saying is the athletic department which I include Carr in even though he's not a paid employee , is typically very tight lipped. It's seems very interesting for Carr to comment on this so early in the search when he has rarely talked about Michigan football to the media since retiring.

cklawblue13

December 4th, 2014 at 10:56 PM ^

Come out & make that statement tells alot how much he hates jim harbaugh. If i have to tell you that i like you & support you, then its obviously forced. They need to get rid of every Carr crony in the AD, starting w Deboard. I hope those guys dont screw up the cc for a third time! Anyone who thinks that this statement by Carr is genuine is crazy, he had a chance to have harbaugh as his qb coach back in the day & he rejected him.

LSAClassOf2000

December 4th, 2014 at 10:58 PM ^

"I think the decision at Michigan is going to be a little bit more deliberate," Griese told the show. "Jim Hackett, the athletic director is going to go through a more funneled process and whittle the candidates down. Because of the fact he doesn't have a whole lot of experience or any experience in intercollege athletics in conducting a search for a new coach."

All I really want to say regarding this is that, given the circumstances and what seems to be a rather organized effort on Hackett's part, I don't mind if we're in a period of relative silence / uncertainty with regards to the hire. I definitely would not want to make a panic hire like the Riley thing at Nebraska sort of appears to be anyway. If we have to wait a bit to get a name that we want, I can wait. 

 

bronxblue

December 4th, 2014 at 11:08 PM ^

Yeah, I'm all for a slower pace simply because recruiting won't really matter as much this year and the team needs to settle on a long-term solution over a short-term gain.

Riley seems like a lateral move, but Nebraska never struck me as a "destination" job in today's climate.  Maybe that will change, but it's a place with limited local talent and few  resources/perks that differ from similar schools (e.g. Lincoln is a fine town, but nothing fantastic, you'd have to live in Nebraska, mediocre academics), so expecting better than 9-3 most years seems unlikely unless things drastically change in the B1G.  Riley does have some pro pedigree and has developed decent passers with meh talent, so he might be a good change-of-pace for Nebraska, but the Cornhusker's problem for years has been that defense, and I don't see Riley changing that.

alum96

December 4th, 2014 at 11:57 PM ^

There is no reason to act quickly unless you get a coach in here before Dec 15th.  I believe there is a quiet period btw Dec and Jan 15th so once you get past Dec 15th other than to assemble a staff there is not much urgency.

I never thought Nebraska was competition - I think that job is somewhat degraded just because it has no natural recruiting base and some of Osborne's tactics such as partial qualifiers no longer are allowed.  So it was basically UF who worried me and they are out of the picture.

In terms of self eliminating this worked out as best as you could ask for - within a week both Nebraska and Florida are filled and UM is on its own now with no other major players out there.

turd ferguson

December 4th, 2014 at 11:35 PM ^

As batshit crazy as the Carr conspiracy theorists on this site are, I think Lloyd might have intended this partly as a shot at Miles.  It seems pretty clear that Lloyd doesn't like Miles.  The conspiracy theorist interpretation of this seems to be that Lloyd hates Miles because Lloyd is insanely petty and can't get over a decades-old personal conflict with Miles, Lloyd secretly hates Michigan, or Lloyd only looks after himself and his friends.  

It's entirely possible, though, that Lloyd knows a lot more about Miles' character than we do.  I mean, most of us sense that Miles is probably sleazy.  If Lloyd knows that Miles is undoubtedly a dirty, dishonest, sleazy asshole, then I want Lloyd communicating that to our AD (maybe even more subtly than this), because that's not a guy we want running our football program.  And then I want an AD who's smart, strong, and independent enough to consider that information reasonably and make his own decisions.

Schmozerine

December 5th, 2014 at 12:33 AM ^

I don't care about shady business as long as it is not completely flagrant and against the rules and we could/would get the jokers of the NCAA coming down on us like stretching a little extra.

I don't care if we have an asshole coach as long as we are relevant/winning. If we are winning then nobody will like us either. Everyone hates Ohio State but they are killing us and everyone else in the conference. Meyer is a DOUCHE but damn guys wake up and realize that we need a fighter not a nice guy as our coach even if he is a douche.

We will never compete as nice guys that are boy scouts, look at the last bum we had as a HC. Sure great guy, well liked but not a winner like the sleazy HC's Miles, Meyer, Saban, etc.

Bring on the shadiness as long as we are winning and the NCAA cannot come after us.

Ben v2

December 4th, 2014 at 11:06 PM ^

Jim Harbaugh can care less about what Lloyd thinks and says.  Jim Hackett and the Athletic Dept, however, can google the history between Lloyd and Harbaugh.  By publicly endorsing Harbaugh and maintaining silence on Les Miles, Lloyd is signaling to Jim Hackett that he will not interfere with a Harbaugh hiring.  However, the same courtesy is NOT extended to Les Miles, and no one can seem to pinpoint the issues Lloyd has with Miles other than citing rumors or innuendos.  The silence intends to draw Hackett to vet Miles with Lloyd.  In addition, since the probability getting Harbaugh is much lower and the timeline is much longer, he just bought his guy Debord a few extra weeks to engage and develop a plan C (Not Harbaugh / Not Miles) candidate that Hackett will accept.

Rich Rodriguez never had a chance.  Lloyd is the kingmaker and will continue to be the kingmaker until he passes or Jim Harbaugh wins the NC with Michigan.

This also makes me wonder what Lloyd thinks of Brady Hoke's performance this year.  The insiders must be extremely alarmed.

umumum

December 5th, 2014 at 11:23 AM ^

"no one can seem to pinpoint the issues Lloyd has with Miles other than citing rumors or innuendos"

I'd suggest that the issues are, in fact, what you call rumors and innuendos.  It is pretty much common knowledge.  You seem to concede that there are "issues".  The fact that you don't personally know them or want to believe them doesn't mean they aren't true.