Det. News: Lloyd Carr would hire Jim Harbaugh if it were up to him.
Very out of character for Carr to even comment about this stuff, but here it is. itshappening.gif?
http://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/college/university-michigan/201…
EDIT: Perhaps the "bridge mending" between the two Brian had referenced in an earlier post was successful?
December 4th, 2014 at 10:38 PM ^
I will not believe any of the rumors until it comes straight from the mouth of Kirk Herbstreit.
December 4th, 2014 at 10:40 PM ^
December 4th, 2014 at 10:41 PM ^
Thats what I would do too.
December 4th, 2014 at 10:42 PM ^
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December 4th, 2014 at 11:17 PM ^
Cowherd's mystery candidate? I'd crap my pants if so.
December 4th, 2014 at 10:43 PM ^
Would he also approve any transfer requests from current players?
December 4th, 2014 at 11:02 PM ^
December 4th, 2014 at 11:53 PM ^
I would have to think Carr feels humbled after the Hoke fiasco. I forgot what game it was but the last public image we have of Carr was standing up, and leaving his box early for whichever game of Hoke - it was still mid season.
It was symbolic as hell.
December 5th, 2014 at 1:32 AM ^
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December 5th, 2014 at 10:15 AM ^
Didn't see it... was Carr leaving happening around the same time as the Morris hit?
December 5th, 2014 at 11:55 AM ^
December 5th, 2014 at 3:31 PM ^
Coincdence or perhaps Carr wasn't fully aware when he got up to leave?
December 4th, 2014 at 10:43 PM ^
December 4th, 2014 at 10:52 PM ^
December 4th, 2014 at 10:45 PM ^
December 4th, 2014 at 10:51 PM ^
This is probably dumb, but is it a good sign that Carr said, "If I had a choice, I would choose Jim Harbaugh, but it will be Jim Hackett's decision"? I mean, Carr supposedly has been in touch with Harbaugh, and that's a very different comment from, "If I had a choice, I would choose Jim Harbaugh, but Jim will have a lot of great opportunities to choose from."
That's dumb and I'm reading too much into that, right?
December 4th, 2014 at 10:53 PM ^
All indications are that Hackett wants Harbaugh, so what is there to read into?
December 4th, 2014 at 10:53 PM ^
I think you're reading too much into it. I don't think the two versions of the statement differ substantially in substance or tone.
December 4th, 2014 at 10:57 PM ^
Sorry, what I wrote is confusing (too many Jims). With the second statement I meant that Harbaugh will have a lot of good options to choose from.
December 4th, 2014 at 10:52 PM ^
December 4th, 2014 at 10:54 PM ^
To me this seems very strange but in a good way.
It makes wonder that JH is coming and Carr is saying this publicly so later he looks like he was on board from the very beginning.
No way Carr dropped the nugget of information for no reason. I mean for someone so tied to the program to endorse the by far fan favorite for the job has much deeper meaning then just being his off the cusp opinion
It's happening
December 4th, 2014 at 11:00 PM ^
December 4th, 2014 at 11:04 PM ^
December 4th, 2014 at 11:19 PM ^
That is 100% exactly my reading of this.
December 4th, 2014 at 10:56 PM ^
December 4th, 2014 at 10:59 PM ^
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December 4th, 2014 at 11:26 PM ^
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December 4th, 2014 at 11:30 PM ^
that without the "s/" I am inclined to believe you meant it.
December 4th, 2014 at 11:03 PM ^
December 4th, 2014 at 10:57 PM ^
Does this mean we can hez Jim
December 4th, 2014 at 10:58 PM ^
"I think the decision at Michigan is going to be a little bit more deliberate," Griese told the show. "Jim Hackett, the athletic director is going to go through a more funneled process and whittle the candidates down. Because of the fact he doesn't have a whole lot of experience or any experience in intercollege athletics in conducting a search for a new coach."
All I really want to say regarding this is that, given the circumstances and what seems to be a rather organized effort on Hackett's part, I don't mind if we're in a period of relative silence / uncertainty with regards to the hire. I definitely would not want to make a panic hire like the Riley thing at Nebraska sort of appears to be anyway. If we have to wait a bit to get a name that we want, I can wait.
December 4th, 2014 at 11:08 PM ^
Yeah, I'm all for a slower pace simply because recruiting won't really matter as much this year and the team needs to settle on a long-term solution over a short-term gain.
Riley seems like a lateral move, but Nebraska never struck me as a "destination" job in today's climate. Maybe that will change, but it's a place with limited local talent and few resources/perks that differ from similar schools (e.g. Lincoln is a fine town, but nothing fantastic, you'd have to live in Nebraska, mediocre academics), so expecting better than 9-3 most years seems unlikely unless things drastically change in the B1G. Riley does have some pro pedigree and has developed decent passers with meh talent, so he might be a good change-of-pace for Nebraska, but the Cornhusker's problem for years has been that defense, and I don't see Riley changing that.
December 4th, 2014 at 11:57 PM ^
There is no reason to act quickly unless you get a coach in here before Dec 15th. I believe there is a quiet period btw Dec and Jan 15th so once you get past Dec 15th other than to assemble a staff there is not much urgency.
I never thought Nebraska was competition - I think that job is somewhat degraded just because it has no natural recruiting base and some of Osborne's tactics such as partial qualifiers no longer are allowed. So it was basically UF who worried me and they are out of the picture.
In terms of self eliminating this worked out as best as you could ask for - within a week both Nebraska and Florida are filled and UM is on its own now with no other major players out there.
December 4th, 2014 at 10:59 PM ^
Problem solved.....
December 4th, 2014 at 11:03 PM ^
Slight dig at Les?
December 4th, 2014 at 11:35 PM ^
As batshit crazy as the Carr conspiracy theorists on this site are, I think Lloyd might have intended this partly as a shot at Miles. It seems pretty clear that Lloyd doesn't like Miles. The conspiracy theorist interpretation of this seems to be that Lloyd hates Miles because Lloyd is insanely petty and can't get over a decades-old personal conflict with Miles, Lloyd secretly hates Michigan, or Lloyd only looks after himself and his friends.
It's entirely possible, though, that Lloyd knows a lot more about Miles' character than we do. I mean, most of us sense that Miles is probably sleazy. If Lloyd knows that Miles is undoubtedly a dirty, dishonest, sleazy asshole, then I want Lloyd communicating that to our AD (maybe even more subtly than this), because that's not a guy we want running our football program. And then I want an AD who's smart, strong, and independent enough to consider that information reasonably and make his own decisions.
December 5th, 2014 at 12:33 AM ^
I don't care if we have an asshole coach as long as we are relevant/winning. If we are winning then nobody will like us either. Everyone hates Ohio State but they are killing us and everyone else in the conference. Meyer is a DOUCHE but damn guys wake up and realize that we need a fighter not a nice guy as our coach even if he is a douche.
We will never compete as nice guys that are boy scouts, look at the last bum we had as a HC. Sure great guy, well liked but not a winner like the sleazy HC's Miles, Meyer, Saban, etc.
Bring on the shadiness as long as we are winning and the NCAA cannot come after us.
December 4th, 2014 at 11:06 PM ^
Jim Harbaugh can care less about what Lloyd thinks and says. Jim Hackett and the Athletic Dept, however, can google the history between Lloyd and Harbaugh. By publicly endorsing Harbaugh and maintaining silence on Les Miles, Lloyd is signaling to Jim Hackett that he will not interfere with a Harbaugh hiring. However, the same courtesy is NOT extended to Les Miles, and no one can seem to pinpoint the issues Lloyd has with Miles other than citing rumors or innuendos. The silence intends to draw Hackett to vet Miles with Lloyd. In addition, since the probability getting Harbaugh is much lower and the timeline is much longer, he just bought his guy Debord a few extra weeks to engage and develop a plan C (Not Harbaugh / Not Miles) candidate that Hackett will accept.
Rich Rodriguez never had a chance. Lloyd is the kingmaker and will continue to be the kingmaker until he passes or Jim Harbaugh wins the NC with Michigan.
This also makes me wonder what Lloyd thinks of Brady Hoke's performance this year. The insiders must be extremely alarmed.
December 4th, 2014 at 11:14 PM ^
The fact that some Michigan fans actually believe stuff like this completely blows my mind.
December 4th, 2014 at 11:14 PM ^
Your post is sheer lunacy. I pity you. I sincerely do.
December 4th, 2014 at 11:19 PM ^
December 5th, 2014 at 11:23 AM ^
"no one can seem to pinpoint the issues Lloyd has with Miles other than citing rumors or innuendos"
I'd suggest that the issues are, in fact, what you call rumors and innuendos. It is pretty much common knowledge. You seem to concede that there are "issues". The fact that you don't personally know them or want to believe them doesn't mean they aren't true.
December 4th, 2014 at 11:06 PM ^
I still think Josh McDaniels is the dark horse...
December 4th, 2014 at 11:37 PM ^
source?
December 5th, 2014 at 4:25 AM ^
He, like, read it on a message board somewhere...
December 4th, 2014 at 11:13 PM ^