Call Jim Delany - Promote Safety

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October 15th, 2011 at 7:04 PM
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Call Jim Delany - Promote Safety

(847) 696-1010 - Jim Delany's Number (http://www.bigten.org/school-bio/big10-school-bio.html)

Today, many of us witnessed a few players of a single football team aggresively attack players of the opposing team with obvious intent to injure. There is no way to factually state that these attacks affected the outcome of the game. However, that is not the goal of my proposal. The student-athletes had their safety put at risk today due to lack of appropritae officiatings by both referees and coaches.

1. William Gholston purposely and violently twisted Denard Robinson's neck at the end of a play. There is video evidence of this.

2. William Gholston purposely and violently punched Taylor Lewan in the throat away from the focus of the play. There is video evidence of this.

3. Marcus Rush continued a string of late-hit penalties focused on quarterback Denard Robinson, eventually resulting in his injury. There is video evidence of this and prior late-hits.

Let Jim Delany know how you feel. Spread the word to all B1G schools (MSU included) to voice our disgust in the lack of any sort of authority preventing or appropriately penalizing the aforementioned violence.

This isn't about winning or losing. This is about the safety of the student-athletes who expose themselves to injury for our entertainment benefit. Do them all a favor and make sure that this sort of behavior is not tolerated in any future Big Ten football games. It is dangerous to the student-athletes themselves to allow this behavior to continue.

Call Jim Delany (847) 696-1010. Reinforce the idea that the student-athletes are truly top priority in the college football world.

I'm calling him right after I click "Save"


*UPDATE* I modified the thread title for clarity. By "not Victory" I meant our OWN theoretical victory based on the typical post-game anti-officiating banter proposing we would've have won if x=/=y, Not MSU's actual victory.

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October 15th, 2011 at 7:07 PM | We get it. They're thugs. (Score:0 Normal)
October 15th, 2011 at 7:21 PM | (No subject) (Score:5 Normal)
OMG Shirtless
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I put up a tough front, but deep down I just want to be held.

October 15th, 2011 at 7:21 PM | Hey, MGoUser11, enjoy (Score:0 Overrated)
October 16th, 2011 at 12:21 AM | How do you have negative (Score:1)
Stephen Y
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How do you have negative points?  Negs were done away with long ago

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October 16th, 2011 at 12:28 AM | The mods (Score:2 Normal)
BlueDragon
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still wreck fools from time to time.

Abort, Retry, Fail?

October 15th, 2011 at 7:07 PM | I'll call him if he plays (Score:5 Normal)
ThadMattasagoblin
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I'll call him if he plays next week and ask him why a player who trys to take someone head off is not suspended.

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October 15th, 2011 at 7:47 PM | I thought any player that (Score:2)
wildbackdunesman
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I thought any player that punches gets suspended for the next game.  Isn't that what happened to a Purdue player and in a different game one of our players under Rich Rod?

October 16th, 2011 at 7:05 AM | This isnt about players (Score:1)
Cope
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This a coaching thing. Idk if this has been posted, but you won't believe it.
This is MSU's defensive coordinator after the game: "The only disappointing thing was the penalties," Narduzzi said. "The unnecessary roughness, you know, the guy (Robinson) is squirming all over the place. I thought that was what the game was, unnecessary roughness on every play, and that's what we tried to do, 60 minutes of unnecessary roughness. I'm just glad they didn't call it every snap."
That's as close to criminal after what happened as I can imagine. My mouth is still open...

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October 16th, 2011 at 6:24 PM | Classy (Score:2 Normal)
Cope
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Staters gotta state.

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October 15th, 2011 at 7:07 PM | Is this for real? (Score:0 Normal)
October 15th, 2011 at 8:54 PM | Sometimes it is necessary to complain... (Score:3 Normal)
Tater
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The Big Ten will take care of it on its own. They don't need hundreds of butthurt Michigan fans calling in to complain like little bitches.

I see nothing wrong with fans exercising their right to complain about behavior that would result in jail time if it had been done off the field. If the B1G office allowed the public to contact it by email, a call wouldn't be necessary, but they don't.

Since we buy tickets, sit through their commercials, and/or pay cable fees, we are their customers. Therefore, we are allowed to demand good customer service. In this case, good customer service would dictate that someone who adversely affected their product in the manner in which Gholston did should be suspended.

 

 

 

October 15th, 2011 at 9:02 PM | Of course, the king of conspiracy thinks this is a good idea. (Score:0 Normal)
October 16th, 2011 at 6:58 PM | No! Don't wait! (Score:1)
Section 1
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Now I have no idea if fan-complaints will sway the decision.  I expect not.  But based on how the suspensions of Mouton and REckman went down, I think that there is good reason to believe that things might not get called unless there is a large public outcry.

And it does more good to get it out there fast and loud, so that hopefully the suspension of Gholston can hurt State against Wisconsin, where it could make the biggest difference.

It would be weird, in my view, if the Mouton/Reckman precedent didn't hold up.  Publicized, videotaped incidents, of a very similar nature.  I would think that the Conference would suspend Gholston on its own for the exact same reasons, no matter what we (or any other fans) said.

 

 

October 15th, 2011 at 7:09 PM | Officials (Score:5 Normal)
Brown Bear
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Gholston will definitely get suspended. My bigger issue is with the officials who did nothing to take control of the game and allowed the nonstop thuggery. By not ejecting Gholston it just told msu that you can go ahead and do whatever you want.

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October 15th, 2011 at 7:15 PM | No, we told them they can do (Score:5 Normal)
urbanachiever
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No, we told them they can do whatever they want because we were unable to take advantage of any of their thuggery.  It's not as if the plays weren't resulting in penalties.  If we cashed some of our opportunities in they would've been a little cleaner

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October 15th, 2011 at 7:22 PM | Penalties are one thing (Score:5 Normal)
Brown Bear
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Fear of ejection is another. Yes we failed to capitalize on penalties but it doesn't forgive letting a player throw a punch and not get ejected. I thought that a thrown punch was automatic ejection, the fact that it was his second personal foul should've made that decision easier. A player that reckless shouldn't be out there.

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October 15th, 2011 at 9:08 PM | Right, but nothing else that (Score:1)
urbanachiever
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Right, but nothing else that they did warranted ejection.  An occasional late hit on Denard isn't going to get you ejected.  FWIW I agree that Gholston should have been ejected after the punch (2nd offense), but I don't think that would have changed the way they played.  JMO

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October 15th, 2011 at 10:13 PM | The way they play, sure.  But (Score:1)
Swazi
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The way they play, sure.  But Gholston was getting into the backfield quite a bit.  Kid is good, and him missing the rest of the game could've relieved the pressure on the OL.

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October 15th, 2011 at 11:47 PM | late hits are one thing, intent to injure is another (Score:2 Normal)
ats
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On the late hit that injured Denard, that wasn't your run of the mill late hit.  The player body slammed him AFTER he had the late hit.  Watch it again, he goes in with his arms up and hits Denard, than he moved his hands down, picks up Denard and slams him.

That was pure intent to injure and should result in a multi-game suspension along with Gholston.  Honestly, between the attempted broken neck and the punch, if I was the big ten commish, I'd suspend Gholston for the rest of the year and require that he complete anger management classes.

If something isn't done soon, we'll rapidly go down the path of enforcers: find best play, break best player, get a meh pointless penalty.  Cause if they aren't going to really enforce things like sportsman like conduct, why not take advantage of it, other teams obviously will.  There are rules in the book to handle things like this but the refs are too afraid to utilize the unfair advantage rules (Rule 9-2-3 Unfair Acts).

Same thing with the taunting rule, honestly it doesn't go far enough, should be loss of ball AND minus 6 points (and since the TD never occured that would be a total of -12 points).  Nothing wrong with requiring plays not to be idiots.

October 15th, 2011 at 9:33 PM | I would have taken a 15 yard penalty (Score:3 Normal)
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or even 2 if Cousins were injured/ out of the game. Hell, probably even 3 penalties.

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October 15th, 2011 at 7:09 PM | posted from iPhone (Score:0 Flamebait)
October 15th, 2011 at 7:12 PM | ext (Score:1)
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i lrft a general vm but any ideas on a good ext#

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October 15th, 2011 at 7:12 PM | This is embarrassing (Score:0 Overrated)
October 16th, 2011 at 1:24 AM | agree (Score:-1 Flamebait)
October 16th, 2011 at 2:07 AM | I don't think anyone is (Score:1)
justingoblue
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I don't think anyone is ignoring anything. There are multiple threads dedicated to what our problems were this game, all with posts critical of our team and coaches.

As for Lewan, I've never seen him throw a punch. Ever. Until then, it's not acceptable to punch him; there's a reason Lewan wasn't flagged and Gholston was.

As far as sounding pathetic, I have no idea what to tell you. Do you honestly think this thread wouldn't exist if we had won 58-0? That wasn't "a couple of personal fouls", that was five on one team, their coach encouraging it, and one in particular that would have had a multiple game suspension and a six figure fine in the NFL.

Go Blue!

October 16th, 2011 at 6:48 AM | It was (Score:1)
Cope
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the first time Denard has gone down and not come back up this season. It may have been the first real injury to Denard. Still want to go with that theory?

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October 16th, 2011 at 6:51 AM | Double post. Worth saying twice. (Score:1)
Cope
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the first time Denard has gone down and not come back up this season. It may have been the first real injury to Denard.. Still want to go with that theory?

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October 15th, 2011 at 7:13 PM | I disagree with all te M fans (Score:5 Normal)
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I disagree with all te M fans here saying "stop whining". This isn't whining about ref'ing, this is a legitimate issue that could have ended in paralysis. This is not overstatement; watch the neck-twist again. That's not just bad football, that's life-alteringly dangerous. Fr the referees not to eject a player after two such events is ridiculous.

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October 15th, 2011 at 7:26 PM | They were not up to the task (Score:1 Normal)
justingoblue
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They were not up to the task of controlling the game. I'm guessing their supervisors let them know this after the game, too. Doesn't make it any better, but I wouldn't be surprised to see whoever makes the calls about ejections take next week off.

Go Blue!

October 15th, 2011 at 7:13 PM | Multiple threads on the same (Score:0 Normal)
October 15th, 2011 at 7:14 PM | I am all for free speech (Score:-1 Normal)
October 15th, 2011 at 7:22 PM | No. (Score:5 Normal)
Drill
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Cheap shotting a player is NEVER gritty and ALWAYS dirty.  Period.  There are no two ways about it.  If Michigan won by doing this, I would hope like hell that Hoke suspended any of the players involved.  But Michigan didn't.  State did.  I'd rather have a team with morals that loses than a team without them that wins.  Maybe State should move to the SEC, where "win at all costs" is a more appreciated mentality.

 

EDIT:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sM18sAZRnIU

http://gif.mocksession.com/2011/10/gholston-punch/?utm_source=rss&utm_me...

If you can look at that and call it anything other than "dirty play," then maybe you should switch over to being an MSU fan.  That sort of activity has NO PLACE on a football field and is nothing that anyone should EVER do.

October 15th, 2011 at 8:24 PM | cmon (Score:-1 Trolling)
October 15th, 2011 at 8:31 PM | What the shit? (Score:3 Normal)
Medic
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Really? We attempt to permanently disable players and snap their necks?

October 15th, 2011 at 10:05 PM | Go back to your board troll (Score:1)
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Go back to your board troll

October 15th, 2011 at 11:51 PM | Your second link left out the (Score:0 Trolling)
October 15th, 2011 at 7:29 PM | Don't spread ignorace. (Score:3 Normal)
Drkboarder
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I did play football, actually. Lakeview High School, Battle Creek, Michigan - 2003. When one of our players, during a city rivalry game, grabbed another player's facemask and repeatedly slammed his head into the ground he was ejected and suspended for a hefty portion of the season.

Thank you for assuming incorrectly, sir.

October 15th, 2011 at 7:54 PM | (Score:1 Normal)
jhender85
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you clearly didn't play football...or atleast play it well. I played for 8 years and was considered a "dirty" player. How was I dirty? I held on almost every play without fail, I would keep a pancaked defender from getting back up and I barrel rolled blitzing linebackers. But never did I throw a punch. Never did I hit late or go for someone's head. What the Spartans did isn't dirty or gritty play and its not football. It's a complete lack of class. When my obnoxious spartan friends even take a step back after this victory to comment on how they were a bit embarrassed by some of their players' actions, then something is most definitely wrong with what they did.

October 15th, 2011 at 8:07 PM | Huh? (Score:-1 Overrated)
October 15th, 2011 at 10:26 PM | (Score:1)
jhender85
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Easy there killer, I'm on your side. I was trying to refer my statement to the person you were talking to, not sure how it pulled it in as a reply to your post.

October 16th, 2011 at 1:59 AM | The forum is assuming you (Score:1)
mgoblue0970
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The forum is assuming you were the kicker then.

October 15th, 2011 at 7:40 PM | You're spot on, this isn't (Score:4 Normal)
Lionsfan
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You're spot on, this isn't RCMB. Over there they don't care about the exceptionally dirty style of play, they just want a win. Over there how Gholston plays is "gritty" whereas in the rest of the college football world it's dirty. Telling everyone to "man up" because we're complaining that our players are being punched or having theirs head twisted is not smart if you're looking to stay here longterm

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October 15th, 2011 at 7:45 PM | I'm guessing Bertuzzi's hit (Score:3 Normal)
justingoblue
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I'm guessing Bertuzzi's hit was just a part of hockey too? Some things have no place in sports, this is one of them.

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October 15th, 2011 at 8:17 PM | I love the Wings, but I still (Score:2 Normal)
Witz57
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I love the Wings, but I still can't get myself excited about a Bertuzzi goal.

October 15th, 2011 at 8:49 PM | posted from iPhone (Score:1)
08mms
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Yeah, and we had a cheap bastard who twisted limbs and pulled hairs in the pile. Lucky for everyone, the coach benched him before someone we played decided to take it personally and cause him some real harm. It's one thing to play nasty and follow through on your hits even if you might be able to pull off, it's another to body slam an unsuspecting player well after they've made a throw or try to throw a roundhouse on the field. I have no faith in Dantonio to take care of the issue like most competent coaches would, I hope the big ten steps up with something.

October 16th, 2011 at 1:28 AM | Bingo! (Score:0 Trolling)
October 16th, 2011 at 2:04 AM | Man up? All I want to tell (Score:0)
October 15th, 2011 at 7:17 PM | to all those saying that (Score:2 Normal)
ThadMattasagoblin
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to all those saying that we're whining did you see him twisting Denard's head!

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October 15th, 2011 at 7:18 PM | Yes (Score:2 Normal)
OMG Shirtless
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Do you think the Big Ten somehow missed it?  

I put up a tough front, but deep down I just want to be held.

October 15th, 2011 at 7:24 PM | Please read. (Score:1 Normal)
Drkboarder
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What does it matter if they missed it or not? I am sure they are well aware of the issues at hand, but they won't fully understand the seriousness that the on-field conduct display by certain football players has with regards to the impressions of the Big Ten football teams, players and fans UNLESS we actually voice those opinions.

Why are you so against contacting Jim Delany? Do you think he's totally gonna pwn our opinionz and Halol at the whining Michigan fanbase?

And why am I being down voted for trolling. Really, people? Promoting safety is trolling? Holy crap I've overestimated the general intelligence of this forum.

 

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