Hagen

April 22nd, 2014 at 2:45 PM ^

This stings a little, but mostly because we're losing out to OSU.  Lindsay is obviously a solid player, but I don't think he would have instantly made our O-Line dominant. 

Time for Glasgow, Kugler or Miller to step up.  At the very least, they'll all be around more than the one year that Lindsay would be and will give them that much extra time to gel with the rest of the O-Line.

Hagen

April 22nd, 2014 at 3:24 PM ^

I agree, there's no argument that we were anything but awful last year.  All I was trying to point out was that this guy was not a savior.  I guess I'm more peeved by who Lindsay is signing with as opposed to the fact that we missed on him. 

And as M1817 right below this stated, this is better for the team morale standpoint (yes, yes, I know this doesn't win games).  But I like to think that our guys will be playing with a chip on their shoulders this year, and that they can grow togethere for the next few years and become an OLine that we are used to seeing. 

m1817

April 22nd, 2014 at 3:09 PM ^

From a team and OL morale standpoint, we will be better off developing our own players. From a recruiting standpoint, the coaches can point out to recruits that if they go to Ohio, they could be supplanted by a fifth year player that parachutes in.

SC Wolverine

April 22nd, 2014 at 3:34 PM ^

Exactly.  I hope our young lineman are really ticked over all this and approach 2014 with a maniacal passion and anger.  Everyone has completely written them off.  Let Ohio have their Alabama back-up.  Let our guys just play to their potential and we will be fine.

SC Wolverine

April 22nd, 2014 at 3:34 PM ^

Exactly.  I hope our young lineman are really ticked over all this and approach 2014 with a maniacal passion and anger.  Everyone has completely written them off.  Let Ohio have their Alabama back-up.  Let our guys just play to their potential and we will be fine.

ypsituckyboy

April 22nd, 2014 at 2:53 PM ^

Playing the cheating card is pretty lame. Sure, OSU has cheated here and there. Do a few $100 tattoos really make the difference in them kicking our tail for a decade? No. What makes the difference is that they have had two incredible head coaches who know how to recruit talented guys and then make them better. We've had zero. Sick of the excuses year after year.

Avon Barksdale

April 22nd, 2014 at 3:11 PM ^

The worst part about it is having to read here "how dirty the SEC is..." It's very simple, they win quite a bit, are loud doing it, and we dislike that.

Living here in the south do I agree with everything they do? No. But has a single SEC program been punished in their dominant decade for wrong-doing? No. They simply win more than we do, and we dislike that and "they are dirty" is an easy argument.

Magnus

April 22nd, 2014 at 6:28 PM ^

Winning is a different matter. Long was the #1 pick, Edwards was the #5 pick IIRC, Henne is our all-time leading passer and picked in the 2nd round, and Hart is our all-time leading rusher, plus various other success stories. You can't look at that group (and others) and say that Carr was a coach who either couldn't recruit talent or couldn't make it better.

ypsituckyboy

April 22nd, 2014 at 2:48 PM ^

How in the world can you not close this deal given our C situation and the presence of Nussmeier? This coaching staff leaves a lot to be desired. Just another disappointment in a long line of disappointments, particularly with the O-Line.

Space Coyote

April 22nd, 2014 at 2:58 PM ^

Not the fact that OSU also has a depleted line, was a good OL last year, was undefeated in the regular season last year, also has good coaches, and maybe, just maybe, Lindsay was willing to try something other than play for the OC  that utilized him as a backup the previous year.

I wanted Lindsay to come to Michigan, and it's clear there wasn't a bunch of ill-will between him and Nuss, but let's not act like "this staff sucks because they could not pull in a 5th year grad transfer over OSU".

Lionsfan

April 22nd, 2014 at 3:50 PM ^

Let's be realistic though, even if he had come to MIchigan, it's not like he would be doing nuclear physics as a grad student.

No matter where he ended up (this includes UM), I'd be willing to bet quite a bit that he's just gonna have the minimum number of classes required, probably do enough to maintain an eligible GPA, and be gone after the semester is over

NitroBuck

April 23rd, 2014 at 9:19 AM ^

Mr. "We ain't come here to play school" was a true Freshman who made an incredibly stupid tweet.  Yes, it was embarrassing for all Buckeyes, but if you think that is the norm in Columbus, you are sadly mistaken.  Just so you know, that guy is a Sophomore now, and is exceeding a 3.0 accum.  It is safe to say his comment drew a lot of scrutiny from Urbn Meyer.  So far, he has held up well under that burden.

I also highly doubt that Lindsay is a "we don't come to play school" type.  After all, he did graduate within 4 years.  If he hadn't, he would be a 5th year Senior at Alabama next season.

Funny how he was good enough to be wanted in Ann Arbor, but since he chose to continue his studies in Columbus he is suddenly not good enough for you.

ypsituckyboy

April 22nd, 2014 at 3:15 PM ^

OSU has a depleted line because a bunch of them graduated. UM also has a depleted line, but mainly because (1) the prior coaching staff recruited crappy OLmen who aren't even here anymore, and (2) none of the ones that Hoke recruited have played very well (caveats about the BUT YOUTH!!! argument). -> Adv OSU

OSU had a good OL last year, UM didn't. That's a combination of coaching and personnel (which, again, is indirectly related to coaching, just not this staff). -> Adv OSU

OSU has good OL coaches, after three years no one has any idea if UM has even semi-competent OL coaches -> Adv OSU

So, yeah, a reasonable decision...of which coaching is inescapably a part.