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I have no idea who will be…

I have no idea who will be better and literally never heard of either of them before a few days ago but it seems pretty clear that Morgan was the 3rd one to receive and accept the job.   Hopefully 3rd times a charm.

Wasn't Clink plan A, Adgoke…

Wasn't Clink plan A, Adgoke plan B and thus Morgan plan C?  Doug Mallory might have even slotted in there somewhere.

WTKA crew said he was…

WTKA crew said he was looking at Ole Miss, Bama and Oregon.  For what that's "worth"

I thought this was the rule…

I thought this was the rule around here... Wtf!!  😜

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I'm sure the line will once…

I'm sure the line will once again be that it "wasn't about the money" when in all likelihood it was def about the money.

so he was planning on having…

so he was planning on having to pay assistants on a national championship team more the following season.... insightful.  That must be why some on the board want to extend him.

6.

He's all in on the…

6.

He's all in on the Chargers and I'm all in on UM so it doesn't really matter to me.

If you guys wanna tell's the…

If you guys wanna tell's the athletic department it's fine to not compete for the best talent out there, that's certainly your prerogative. 

And if you really think these things arent almost entirely about money then you haven't really been paying attention to college football 

Clink knew he wasn't gonna…

Clink knew he wasn't gonna be DC when he told his players he was coming back.

So incredibly tired of one of the richest programs in the nation constantly crying poor.  Either you're in the big leagues or your not. Either you pay for talent or you don't get any.  This AD and program need to wake up to the new market realities.

"By all accounts" meaning…

"By all accounts" meaning something Sam said.... Got bad news about things Sam's said

Am I the only one who thinks…

Am I the only one who thinks 10-2 and even 9-3 seems highly optimistic given everything going on with coaching, massive turnover on O, no obvious QB and three top 5 teams on the schedule?

Sure. Everything is going…

Sure. Everything is going awesome and anyone who says otherwise is a traitor and a liar.

Again with this portal crap…

Again with this portal crap.. they haven't lost anyone because at the moment it makes no sense to leave your current team because you can't enroll and the new place yet.  Sam's been pushing this nonsense to as some sign that the players are bought in but in reality it just the calendar working in there favor momentarily.

I don't think he "simply…

I don't think he "simply changed his mind"... I think the Chargers probably upped the bid and UM didn't match so he bolted.  Seems the most simple answer to me. 

Sam's of course gonna say some nonsense like "it's not about the money". "Jim was never gonna lose this bidding war".  "Of course he wanted to be in the NFL".. "I never said he was def back only said it seemed like he's back "... Blah blah blah because that's what it takes to sell memberships.

I already know what Sam's…

I already know what Sam's gonna say on Monday. 

He's going to talk outta both side of his mouth and downplay it and fell you there was nothing UM could do.

Boom! insider knowledge for ya

 

A program coming off the…

A program coming off the most successful on field 3 year run in history and it's staff is in shambles and it's recruiting it's entirely mediocre.  You people who don't realize it's money related are incredible naive.

Then why did Sam say he told…

Then why did Sam say he told the player he was coming back?

Can't wait till they…

Can't wait till they announce that extension for Warde

If that's true why did he…

If that's true why did he tell his players two days ago he was coming back?

Spring portal gonna be a…

Spring portal gonna be a bloodbath

College football coaching is…

College football coaching is way harder right now so if you want good coaches is definitely going to be about the money 

UM acting like some low…

UM acting like some low budget MAC school immediately after winning a natty is just perfect.

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If UM wants good coaching…

If UM wants good coaching they (and every other college team) are gonna have to pay up because anyone worth it is gonna have NFL options and that's obviously a better gig.  Only reasons the DC is here is a lack of options.

yes, this def could be true…

yes, this def could be true if Moore invests more in recruiting elsewhere but its concerning that the first name I heard floated to come with Wink was another guy (Wilkins) who's also been in the NFL for over a decade

True enough.  I'm also not…

True enough.  I'm also not ready to treat an anonymous vague secondhand quote as gospel. 

if you're coming here to…

if you're coming here to talk about Wink and the Giants but have no idea who their 1st round pick was last year I dunno what to tell ya.

And yes, it def says something about the guy when its clear the NFL doesnt want him and he was also obviously not Moore's first or even second choice

Hope.

Hope he doesn't try…

Hope.

Hope he doesn't try and blitz 54% of the time

Hope he doesn't abandon C2/Q/C6 for all C1 & C0

Hope he isn't a zero in recruiting

Hope he can adapt to college environment

Hope he doesn't have to "mutually part ways" again

Hope his bad defenses the last 3 year's weren't his fault

if this happened how come…

if this happened how come none of the players are quoted or even mentioned by name?

He did not become a HC so I…

He did not become a HC so I dunno what you're talking about. 

His D took a dive (maybe because of injury..maybe not) and they clearly wanted Mac back.  The fact that their public comments were incredibly vanilla is meaningless.

This would be easier to…

This would be easier to believe if there an actual player named or quoted...

I did listen to Sam but I am…

I did listen to Sam but I am also not incredibly naive. 

You wanna call BLT a "mutual parting" be my guest but they obviously wanted to drop him for Mac.   And Wink had an incredibly public falling out with Daboll in NY.  It's fact that his last two teams didn't want to hold on to him. At some point ' it's not you it's me" means it actually is you.

"Did a great job".....with…

"Did a great job".....with Dexter Lawrence, Thibodeaux, Banks, McKinney, Ojalri, Okereke, Love, Jackson, Robinson....

Pros:

He was good in 2020

Pros:

He was good in 2020

Developed a system recent UM DCs have thrived with.

Cons:

Hasn't had a good defense since 2020

Doesnt recruit

Would rather be in the NFL but doesn't seem to have any options there

Hasn't coached in college in two decades

Neither of his past two employers wanted to retain his services.

What do people have against…

What do people have against him???

He's old

He doesn't recruit

He hasn't coached college in 20 years

He obviously wants to be in the NFL but they don't seem to want him anymore

He's had bad defenses for the last 3 years

He clearly wasn't Moore's first choice

Neither of his last two employers wanted to keep him.

Yes... What happened 4 years…

Yes... What happened 4 years is ago def more important than what happened the last two years.

"fantastic"

"fantastic"

"From this highly arbitrary…

"From this highly arbitrary week I selected they were entirely mediocre" is certainly one data point.  Here's another.

Other than " he was good…

Other than " he was good with the Ravens 4 years ago" what is the pitch for Wink?

- Bad defenses ever since

- Hasn't coached college in two decades

- Very unlikely to recruit 

- Public and messy relationship with his last head coach

- Seems like a holdover position till some NFL team wants him back

This just seems like they decided it had to be a Ravens guy and he was the only one left.

"he's not as bad as Dave…

"he's not as bad as Dave Brandon" 😂

The very definition of "damning with faint praise"

I mean when you get a chance…

I mean when you get a chance to hire a guy who hasn't been in college coaching for two decades and doesn't have any interest from the NFL you gotta take it!  Especially when his last defense had such stellar results!

When the NFL hires all the…

When the NFL hires all the guys who used to work for you I guess hiring the guy the NFL doesn't want anymore makes sense..... 

Given Warde very recent…

Given Warde very recent stance on NIL any further opening up of the NIL regulations seems like it would make it even harder for UM to compete with the majority of power 2 programs for talented players.

If the current analogy is "the speed limit is 50mph but everyone else is going 75" then this seems like it just means those guy currently going 75 can go even faster.

 

So you don't wanna keep the…

So you don't wanna keep the guy apparently being pursued by the NFL but you do wanna hire the guy being run out of the NFL?

Sure. Things are going great…

Sure. Things are going great 👍

There are a LOT of you guys…

There are a LOT of you guys who haven't watched the Giants D the last two years...

And spare me the Vandy comparison where there is no salary cap, no draft and no comparison in terms of relative competition.

I mean the Ravens canned him…

I mean the Ravens canned him for a reason and the Giants D was awful but I guess having "Ravens" on your resume is about where this program is at.  Should come at a nice discount.

Yes.  Obviously.

Yes.  Obviously.

Things are fine!!!!

Things are fine!!!!