Bad News For Ohio St: Chase Young Suspended For Maryland Game, Possibly Longer

Submitted by Ezekiels Creatures on November 8th, 2019 at 8:34 AM

The news just came through. He was on pace to easily cruise past Ohio Sts sack record.

Ohio State junior defensive end Chase Young will miss the Maryland game on Saturday due to a suspension, Bucknuts has confirmed.

This news was first reported by Lettermen Row.

A spokesperson for Ohio State did not comment when contacted by Bucknuts Friday morning.

https://247sports.com/college/michigan/Article/Ohio-State-Buckeyes-Chase-Young-138194477/?fbclid=IwAR3y9ZaUl8BHLXhv6w7rH_jkYQkcvOEBDKyqjKrutCcjY-BaH2jxVUZu050

JHumich

November 8th, 2019 at 2:04 PM ^

Minnesota doesn't help us, b/c they're West, and we already have 2 East losses.

Need Indiana and OSU over the pedos and Maryland over OSU. Not happening, but there's a little bit of my fan-heart that still hopes anyway. So, of course, first thing when I read the Chase Young news, my poor little fan heart leaped and thought, "IT'S HAPPENING!"

Pity me.

jtmc33

November 8th, 2019 at 8:53 AM ^

I agree in respect to injuries; have them all healthy and on the field.... but not the cheaters.  They can sit and watch and if UM wins then their fans can bitch that “ we would have won if our star player didn’t get caught getting paid”

GoBlueTal

November 8th, 2019 at 9:10 AM ^

innocent until proven guilty only works in criminal cases.  This is an NCAA violation, where it works the other way around.  He has to prove innocence.  Insofar as the NCAA threw the book at McGary for a violation that had nothing to do with performance or his status as an amateur - fuck Young, vacate all wins in which he participated.  

GoBlueTal

November 8th, 2019 at 9:23 AM ^

Did you graduate from Michigan?  Did you pass the ACT?  It's an analogy...  

McGary did something that had nothing to do with performance or amateur status and the NCAA threw the book at him.

Young is accused of having done something that entirely contradicts his amateur status, so the NCAA should be MORE strict with him than they were with Mitch.  

It's not a complicated leap of logic here... 

ijohnb

November 8th, 2019 at 8:58 AM ^

It seems that most people on this blog believe the players are being exploited and that they should be compensated anyway, so really this should not be seen as that big of a deal, and possibly even championed. 

ijohnb

November 8th, 2019 at 9:16 AM ^

Blah.

There is not one person in the country who believed that Young was not being compensated some how before this so this does not move the needle much for me.  Hope that he returns for the Penn State and Michigan games so we can see what OSU is made of.

GBBlue

November 8th, 2019 at 9:28 AM ^

Nah, we know what they're made of. I'll take the higher chance to win -- not at the expense of an injury, of course, but at the expense of a player avoiding injury so his draft status is secured? Sure, win/win.

GoBlueTal

November 8th, 2019 at 9:28 AM ^

ijohnb wishes that Nick Saban could pick an entire team of All-Americans, coach them for a year, then put them up against M as a justifiable test?

Beat the team in front of you, regardless if their DE is playing, hurt, or kicked off the team for getting caught breaking rules.  

ijohnb

November 8th, 2019 at 9:34 AM ^

Nah.  I have just stop trying to pretend that college football is not irredeemably corrupt across the board.  Comprehensive reform is needed, not suspending Chase Young because he took an envelope from somebody.  If it is going to continue to be a complete shit show anyway, I would just prefer that the best players play in the biggest games.  

GoBlueTal

November 8th, 2019 at 9:44 AM ^

This isn't the first time for OSU, lest you forget the things that brought down Tressel.  

Maybe burning a corrupt program to the ground would help inspire the comprehensive reform you call for, rather than closing your eyes to cheating and letting it continue.

ijohnb

November 8th, 2019 at 9:59 AM ^

Nothing is happening to OSU, man.  Worst case scenario for them as it stands right now is that they are "burned to the ground" for approximately 4 months and then Bob Stoops takes the job and they win the national championship within 2 years.

GoBlueTal

November 8th, 2019 at 10:05 AM ^

As demonstrated by PSU's continuation as a football program...

You're not wrong - but that doesn't mean that ignoring corruption is the answer.  And it sure doesn't mean that Young being on or off the field changes the outcome of our game in any meaningful way

Maize and Blue AF

November 8th, 2019 at 5:14 PM ^

I think it’s becoming increasingly obvious that OSU is made of bullshit.  Very interesting that the stories state Young was honest and upfront with the school, but it’s just now making the press.  It begs the far more important question: If OSU knew and chose to do nothing until NIL was a thing, what are the ramifications?  If you recall, it wasn’t the tattoos that got OSU in the most trouble, it was the lying about it to cover it up (a tradition of sorts at O$U).

GoBlueTal

November 8th, 2019 at 9:15 AM ^

While there is a split on whether and how players should be compensated - despite Brian's official take - I don't think anyone here is advocating for rule breaking.  They want the rules changed so that players can share in the spoils of the very large pile of CFB moolah. 

Paying players with envelopes in pockets, or however Young received his payoff is the opposite of making sure players are treated fairly or honestly.  

oriental andrew

November 8th, 2019 at 9:47 AM ^

I don't think anyone here is advocating for rule breaking.

Have you not been in any thread with even the mere mention of marijuana? There is absolutely a large contingent of folks advocating for rule breaking - but it appears selective based on one's ethical and moral perspective and, in some cases, the person/team it affects. 

GoBlueTal

November 8th, 2019 at 9:59 AM ^

ok - 2 clarifications.

1. "I don't think anyone here is advocating for rule breaking" as far as paying players.  

2. More specific to your reply, I don't even think most people here (I shouldn't use absolutes, there's always a few) would advocate breaking the marijuana rules.  They want the rules changed, yes.  That's understandable and having those conversations is always worthwhile.

But, no matter what - don't break rules and expect no consequences.  

crg

November 8th, 2019 at 10:08 AM ^

Being given a free ride to a major US University (equivalent value of tuition, room, board, books, tutoring, athletic training, etc. that can well exceed $100k/yr depending on the school) is an interesting way of being "exploited".

Another way to look at it is a win-win.  The schools make revenue off people watching the games, while the players get exposure/preparation for NFL careers and simultaneously college education (assuming they choose to go to class, of course).

droptopdoc

November 8th, 2019 at 11:19 AM ^

another way to look at it, even though according to your calculations what they receive is close to a 100k a year in compensation, they are putting their bodies on the line week in and out, going to multiple meetings, and workouts and rehab, struggling to do normal college kid stuff but also not being able to work for more money,  for a degree that may or may not net them a decent job assuming that they did not get a jock degree and even then probably not, while the school makes tens of millions of dollars off their back seems fair. Im not the moral police so I dont honestly care but to say that these kids are getting a fair shake, is BS of the highest level otherwise the kids wouldn't take the money 

trueblueintexas

November 8th, 2019 at 11:31 AM ^

What is the fair salary the players should receive?

I'm not anti-players being compensated in some way. But I often hear "the colleges are making tens of millions and the players get nothing". Well, the players do get an approximately $100K/year value. Which has been validated with real data. Then the argument is "but the players are not getting real value". Ok. What is the real value they deserve? I would love to see the first person who can articulate with real data what the players deserve. 

MileHighWolverine

November 8th, 2019 at 12:07 PM ^

It would get messy really quickly.....but maybe we could we apply a set percentage that is market verifiable? Take average labor costs of any s&p 500 company and apply that standard? So, if the s&p average % of labor costs is 30%, apply that to revenues generated by the football team and distribute it across evenly to each player? It wouldn't be a great way of doing it but maybe start there and then tweak as necessary?

Just standing there

November 8th, 2019 at 12:55 PM ^

The value they deserve is whatever someone is willing to pay them.  It will obviously vary from person to person, just as it does in any field.  Trevor Lawrence is worth more than a backup kicker.  Once they are allowed to be paid for Name and Likeness, we will find out exactly what each player's value is in the open market.

GoBlueTal

November 8th, 2019 at 11:48 AM ^

First, for fairness - the kids are getting closer to $250k/yr in value, in trips, in nutritionists, in mentorships, tutoring, and all the free tuition and room + board, etc.  
Second, for fairness - the teams make 10s of millions off the whole team together, so the 60 (I think?) mill that M got last year off it's 100-odd players, include practice squad etc. (just saying 100 for easy math) means that M gets 600k return from each kid.  

If you do the math, most businesses get in the vicinity of a 50/50 split between what you earn vs. what they earn.  But then, M is one of the best for getting value - take a loot at most schools and those #s get a lot uglier in favor of the kids.  So, how far are players under earning?  Not as far as some might think.  So "BS of the highest level"?  No, really not so much.  If nothing else, no one is holding a gun to these kid's heads and forcing them to play.  No one tells them to not get a degree, or to get a degree in basket weaving, or to fail to make use of the networking opportunities that exist playing in D1 athletics.  

Are there things that can/should be done to compensate them in direct money ways as opposed to value?  That's a good topic for discussion.  Are these kids (on the whole, obviously what happened at Maryland, etc. shows that bad stuff can happen) exploited?  No, and it's a really bad argument to say otherwise.

OldManUfer

November 8th, 2019 at 1:11 PM ^

1. Do you have a source for your $250K and $60M figures or are you making up numbers? Also, are you talking profit or revenue (the more commonly used metric)? Careful if you're trying to use profit, because that would invite a discussion on what the expenses are.

2. Michigan is only allowed to give out 85 scholarships a year, so clearly whatever number you pick can't apply equally to all players on the roster (or even who actually play). This is a reflection of the fact that players' values to the team vary significantly.

3. Aside from a perfunctory sentence in your last paragraph, you're treating non-monetary compensation as if it were monetary without highlighting the limitations. I can do whatever I want with my salary, but players can't. There are doubtlessly some players who would rather not take part in the activities to which you're assigning value. They likely do so because they feel they must so that they give themselves a vague chance of making it to the NFL.

4. Other than ijohnb speculating on other people's opinions, the only people using the word "exploited" in this thread are those defending the status quo.

5. Screw Ohio State.