Bad News For Ohio St: Chase Young Suspended For Maryland Game, Possibly Longer
The news just came through. He was on pace to easily cruise past Ohio Sts sack record.
Ohio State junior defensive end Chase Young will miss the Maryland game on Saturday due to a suspension, Bucknuts has confirmed.
This news was first reported by Lettermen Row.
A spokesperson for Ohio State did not comment when contacted by Bucknuts Friday morning.
November 8th, 2019 at 8:36 AM ^
He’ll be back for the Michigan game, no doubt.
November 8th, 2019 at 8:46 AM ^
Bold to assume he'll even miss penn state
November 8th, 2019 at 8:50 AM ^
I'm hoping against hope Minnesota pulls it off tomorrow. But I don't think they're for real. Their schedule has been very weak.
November 8th, 2019 at 9:40 AM ^
The Bucked Tooth Gophers are gonna get crushed.
November 8th, 2019 at 2:04 PM ^
Minnesota doesn't help us, b/c they're West, and we already have 2 East losses.
Need Indiana and OSU over the pedos and Maryland over OSU. Not happening, but there's a little bit of my fan-heart that still hopes anyway. So, of course, first thing when I read the Chase Young news, my poor little fan heart leaped and thought, "IT'S HAPPENING!"
Pity me.
November 8th, 2019 at 2:11 PM ^
The team has played Wisconsin so frequently that it is easy to think they are in the B1G East.
November 8th, 2019 at 9:54 AM ^
Minny by 4.
November 8th, 2019 at 9:43 AM ^
He'll have to sit the first series of Maryland, and OSU will take the ball first.
November 8th, 2019 at 10:48 AM ^
Yea missing the Maryland game will teach him and really hurt their team. He will be back when it’s a tough game
November 8th, 2019 at 8:48 AM ^
Hope so. Michigan is beating OSU this year and I want them all there for it.
November 8th, 2019 at 8:53 AM ^
I agree in respect to injuries; have them all healthy and on the field.... but not the cheaters. They can sit and watch and if UM wins then their fans can bitch that “ we would have won if our star player didn’t get caught getting paid”
November 8th, 2019 at 8:58 AM ^
Oh is that what happened then? Chase Young was paid and got caught? You have video of the hand-off?
November 8th, 2019 at 9:07 AM ^
Are You New?
November 8th, 2019 at 9:46 AM ^
He's just another fucking troll that hasn't found his way to Bolivia yet.
November 8th, 2019 at 9:10 AM ^
innocent until proven guilty only works in criminal cases. This is an NCAA violation, where it works the other way around. He has to prove innocence. Insofar as the NCAA threw the book at McGary for a violation that had nothing to do with performance or his status as an amateur - fuck Young, vacate all wins in which he participated.
November 8th, 2019 at 9:18 AM ^
I'm not sure what the McGary situation has to do with anything. He failed a drug test, so you could argue that the rule is dumb, but not that he was innocent.
November 8th, 2019 at 9:23 AM ^
Did you graduate from Michigan? Did you pass the ACT? It's an analogy...
McGary did something that had nothing to do with performance or amateur status and the NCAA threw the book at him.
Young is accused of having done something that entirely contradicts his amateur status, so the NCAA should be MORE strict with him than they were with Mitch.
It's not a complicated leap of logic here...
November 8th, 2019 at 9:19 AM ^
Username checks out
November 8th, 2019 at 10:23 AM ^
Lol @ the legal defense being prepared right in front of our very eyes.
November 8th, 2019 at 10:31 AM ^
Young accepted a "loan" from a "family friend."
- That comes straight from the horse's mouth.
GTFO of here with your bullshit.
November 8th, 2019 at 10:38 AM ^
Such a good family friend that he only knew him for a year (-ish).
November 8th, 2019 at 10:39 AM ^
Young thought he was in California... getting paid for his "likeness."
November 8th, 2019 at 12:09 PM ^
A family friend he met before his freshman year of all things. If I had someone giving me money to go to school your dam straight they’d be a friend. This isn’t someone his family has known for yrs.
November 8th, 2019 at 1:16 PM ^
So true Motown. I'm sure they are trying their best to come up with some B.S. excuse. Maybe the NCAA should dig a little deeper into that school down south?? Never mind, that won't happen
November 8th, 2019 at 11:13 AM ^
Silly Rabbit. He's not a RB. He doesn't receive hand-offs. He's a D linemen. It comes in the form of a sack.
November 8th, 2019 at 11:43 AM ^
"Family friend he's know since summer before his freshman year".
C'mon man. I'm going to go out on a limb and say the family friend is an OSU alum.
November 8th, 2019 at 12:21 PM ^
He just admitted to a family loan to ESPN. No one in Ohio can afford to loan the projected number one pick money.c. . .
November 8th, 2019 at 12:45 PM ^
Do you have video that he paid it back like he says?
November 8th, 2019 at 8:58 AM ^
It seems that most people on this blog believe the players are being exploited and that they should be compensated anyway, so really this should not be seen as that big of a deal, and possibly even championed.
November 8th, 2019 at 9:11 AM ^
Well there's a (probably large) group of fans that want the rules to change, but that still believe teams should be held accountable to the rules, whatever they happen to be.
November 8th, 2019 at 9:16 AM ^
Blah.
There is not one person in the country who believed that Young was not being compensated some how before this so this does not move the needle much for me. Hope that he returns for the Penn State and Michigan games so we can see what OSU is made of.
November 8th, 2019 at 9:28 AM ^
Nah, we know what they're made of. I'll take the higher chance to win -- not at the expense of an injury, of course, but at the expense of a player avoiding injury so his draft status is secured? Sure, win/win.
November 8th, 2019 at 9:28 AM ^
ijohnb wishes that Nick Saban could pick an entire team of All-Americans, coach them for a year, then put them up against M as a justifiable test?
Beat the team in front of you, regardless if their DE is playing, hurt, or kicked off the team for getting caught breaking rules.
November 8th, 2019 at 9:34 AM ^
Nah. I have just stop trying to pretend that college football is not irredeemably corrupt across the board. Comprehensive reform is needed, not suspending Chase Young because he took an envelope from somebody. If it is going to continue to be a complete shit show anyway, I would just prefer that the best players play in the biggest games.
November 8th, 2019 at 9:44 AM ^
This isn't the first time for OSU, lest you forget the things that brought down Tressel.
Maybe burning a corrupt program to the ground would help inspire the comprehensive reform you call for, rather than closing your eyes to cheating and letting it continue.
November 8th, 2019 at 9:59 AM ^
Nothing is happening to OSU, man. Worst case scenario for them as it stands right now is that they are "burned to the ground" for approximately 4 months and then Bob Stoops takes the job and they win the national championship within 2 years.
November 8th, 2019 at 10:05 AM ^
As demonstrated by PSU's continuation as a football program...
You're not wrong - but that doesn't mean that ignoring corruption is the answer. And it sure doesn't mean that Young being on or off the field changes the outcome of our game in any meaningful way
November 8th, 2019 at 5:14 PM ^
I think it’s becoming increasingly obvious that OSU is made of bullshit. Very interesting that the stories state Young was honest and upfront with the school, but it’s just now making the press. It begs the far more important question: If OSU knew and chose to do nothing until NIL was a thing, what are the ramifications? If you recall, it wasn’t the tattoos that got OSU in the most trouble, it was the lying about it to cover it up (a tradition of sorts at O$U).
November 8th, 2019 at 9:24 AM ^
In all seriousness, I want them to be compensated post-degree (and yeah, I think that might be a stipulation: that they get their degree), not by some agent.
November 8th, 2019 at 9:15 AM ^
While there is a split on whether and how players should be compensated - despite Brian's official take - I don't think anyone here is advocating for rule breaking. They want the rules changed so that players can share in the spoils of the very large pile of CFB moolah.
Paying players with envelopes in pockets, or however Young received his payoff is the opposite of making sure players are treated fairly or honestly.
November 8th, 2019 at 9:47 AM ^
I don't think anyone here is advocating for rule breaking.
Have you not been in any thread with even the mere mention of marijuana? There is absolutely a large contingent of folks advocating for rule breaking - but it appears selective based on one's ethical and moral perspective and, in some cases, the person/team it affects.
November 8th, 2019 at 9:59 AM ^
ok - 2 clarifications.
1. "I don't think anyone here is advocating for rule breaking" as far as paying players.
2. More specific to your reply, I don't even think most people here (I shouldn't use absolutes, there's always a few) would advocate breaking the marijuana rules. They want the rules changed, yes. That's understandable and having those conversations is always worthwhile.
But, no matter what - don't break rules and expect no consequences.
November 8th, 2019 at 10:08 AM ^
Being given a free ride to a major US University (equivalent value of tuition, room, board, books, tutoring, athletic training, etc. that can well exceed $100k/yr depending on the school) is an interesting way of being "exploited".
Another way to look at it is a win-win. The schools make revenue off people watching the games, while the players get exposure/preparation for NFL careers and simultaneously college education (assuming they choose to go to class, of course).
November 8th, 2019 at 11:19 AM ^
another way to look at it, even though according to your calculations what they receive is close to a 100k a year in compensation, they are putting their bodies on the line week in and out, going to multiple meetings, and workouts and rehab, struggling to do normal college kid stuff but also not being able to work for more money, for a degree that may or may not net them a decent job assuming that they did not get a jock degree and even then probably not, while the school makes tens of millions of dollars off their back seems fair. Im not the moral police so I dont honestly care but to say that these kids are getting a fair shake, is BS of the highest level otherwise the kids wouldn't take the money
November 8th, 2019 at 11:31 AM ^
What is the fair salary the players should receive?
I'm not anti-players being compensated in some way. But I often hear "the colleges are making tens of millions and the players get nothing". Well, the players do get an approximately $100K/year value. Which has been validated with real data. Then the argument is "but the players are not getting real value". Ok. What is the real value they deserve? I would love to see the first person who can articulate with real data what the players deserve.
November 8th, 2019 at 12:07 PM ^
It would get messy really quickly.....but maybe we could we apply a set percentage that is market verifiable? Take average labor costs of any s&p 500 company and apply that standard? So, if the s&p average % of labor costs is 30%, apply that to revenues generated by the football team and distribute it across evenly to each player? It wouldn't be a great way of doing it but maybe start there and then tweak as necessary?
November 8th, 2019 at 12:41 PM ^
If only there were some way we could figure out the value of their services. Someone should invent something like that, I bet it would be a big hit. A capital idea, one might say.
November 8th, 2019 at 12:55 PM ^
The value they deserve is whatever someone is willing to pay them. It will obviously vary from person to person, just as it does in any field. Trevor Lawrence is worth more than a backup kicker. Once they are allowed to be paid for Name and Likeness, we will find out exactly what each player's value is in the open market.
November 8th, 2019 at 11:48 AM ^
First, for fairness - the kids are getting closer to $250k/yr in value, in trips, in nutritionists, in mentorships, tutoring, and all the free tuition and room + board, etc.
Second, for fairness - the teams make 10s of millions off the whole team together, so the 60 (I think?) mill that M got last year off it's 100-odd players, include practice squad etc. (just saying 100 for easy math) means that M gets 600k return from each kid.
If you do the math, most businesses get in the vicinity of a 50/50 split between what you earn vs. what they earn. But then, M is one of the best for getting value - take a loot at most schools and those #s get a lot uglier in favor of the kids. So, how far are players under earning? Not as far as some might think. So "BS of the highest level"? No, really not so much. If nothing else, no one is holding a gun to these kid's heads and forcing them to play. No one tells them to not get a degree, or to get a degree in basket weaving, or to fail to make use of the networking opportunities that exist playing in D1 athletics.
Are there things that can/should be done to compensate them in direct money ways as opposed to value? That's a good topic for discussion. Are these kids (on the whole, obviously what happened at Maryland, etc. shows that bad stuff can happen) exploited? No, and it's a really bad argument to say otherwise.
November 8th, 2019 at 1:11 PM ^
1. Do you have a source for your $250K and $60M figures or are you making up numbers? Also, are you talking profit or revenue (the more commonly used metric)? Careful if you're trying to use profit, because that would invite a discussion on what the expenses are.
2. Michigan is only allowed to give out 85 scholarships a year, so clearly whatever number you pick can't apply equally to all players on the roster (or even who actually play). This is a reflection of the fact that players' values to the team vary significantly.
3. Aside from a perfunctory sentence in your last paragraph, you're treating non-monetary compensation as if it were monetary without highlighting the limitations. I can do whatever I want with my salary, but players can't. There are doubtlessly some players who would rather not take part in the activities to which you're assigning value. They likely do so because they feel they must so that they give themselves a vague chance of making it to the NFL.
4. Other than ijohnb speculating on other people's opinions, the only people using the word "exploited" in this thread are those defending the status quo.
5. Screw Ohio State.