Bluesince89

December 7th, 2023 at 9:32 PM ^

No, but we don’t spread the ball around much. Iowa attempted more passes than us this year. And that’s fine that’s our identity and it’s mostly worked fine. We just gotta realize that wide receivers aren’t going to flock her that are top flight guys. It is what it is. I’m not losing sleep over it. 

Buffalowing Blue

December 8th, 2023 at 9:17 AM ^

I agree.  Other teams may have more WR talent but, many other teams have that dependable guy like Blake Corum?  Better yet, how many of those other teams with dynamic WRs are sitting home or packing their bags to play in a bowl game with a 1/2 empty stadium?

I have to say it would be nice to land a Nico Collins or DPJ type WR for JJ to throw to.  If JJ stays maybe he can help "campaign" for some tranfers?

funkywolve

December 7th, 2023 at 10:17 PM ^

You're cherry picking stats.  Wilson had 41 catches for 662 yds.

Worthy: 73 catches, 969 yds.  Texas throws the ball around. Their second leading receiver had 51 catches, 607 yds.  3rd and 4th receivers had 39 catches for 607 yds and 38 catches for 435 yds.  Texas 3rd leading receiver had pretty much the same number of catches and yards as UM's leading receiver.

Marvin Harrison had 67 catches for 1211 yds.  

Bowers had 56 catches for 714 yds.  Georgia's second leading receiver had 51 catches for 575 yds.

UM under Harbaugh has never had a receiver have 1,000 yards in a season.

Since 2015 Alabama has had 7 receivers get 1000 yards in a season and Ohio State has had 6.  In fact, both OSU and Alabama have had a receiver get more yards in a single season that Roman Wilson has had in his career.

 

RobM_24

December 7th, 2023 at 10:35 PM ^

My point is that I'm sure there are plenty of kids on the portal and in HS who wouldn't mind the opportunity to fill Roman's shoes and get 12 TDs on a playoff team. It's not like we're resigned to getting unheard of transfers and prospects. And in this offense, we probably don't want a 5* who doesn't want to block (if that's the tradeoff). 

Magnus

December 8th, 2023 at 9:18 AM ^

Roman Wilson was #18 in the Big Ten in receptions this season, and that was with an extra game. He was #21 in the conference in receptions per game. Very few elite talents want to come and be a #1 receiver where the ceiling is as the #21 most used receiver in the conference.

We've had 5-star-level talents in Donovan Peoples-Jones and Nico Collins, and they didn't play like 5-stars because that's just not Jim Harbaugh's forte. Even going back to Stanford and San Francisco, he wasn't someone who featured elite WR talents. It just is what it is at this point. 

MMBbones

December 8th, 2023 at 10:18 AM ^

"We've had 5-star-level talents in Donovan Peoples-Jones and Nico Collins, and they didn't play like 5-stars because that's just not Jim Harbaugh's forte."

Agreed. We are back in the Bo days when it was "How in the world do we have Anthony Carter?" 

But a couple of serious questions for those who understand more than I:

1. Did the way DPJ was used here have a negative impact on his NFL draft status? I assume, perhaps wrongly, that the powers-that-be in the NFL who are dumping millions on each of their gambles factor in the system in which the player has played.

2. For an NFL team looking at a Maserati Marv who clearly refuses to block vs. Roman Wilson, to what extent do the gaudy numbers override the package Roman Wilson has displayed? (not that MHJ isn't, deservedly, the #1 WR on NFL boards, in spite of his aversion to physical contact)

Wouldn't a WR who actually also enjoys hitting the other guy gravitate toward M? Or don't those guys exist?

I was just in the band, so if you can teach me a point or two, much appreciated.

Blue In NC

December 8th, 2023 at 10:46 AM ^

Agree with your point but Nico definitely was not a 5-star receiver.  IIRC he was a borderline top-100 guy that Bama didn't really want (at least until the very end).  No doubt he is very talented however.  Absent special circumstances, Michigan is not likely to get many 5-star types but I think they should be able to get some 4-star, top-300 level guys.  The good news is that the roster is not stacked with 5-star guys so an incoming recruit has a decent path to seeing the field.

BornInA2

December 7th, 2023 at 7:57 PM ^

It's basically permanent free-agency. I half expect it to degrade into an any-day-of-the-year thing, so you'll have teams bidding to steal each other's players at halftime.

BornInA2

December 7th, 2023 at 10:22 PM ^

they could be signed to binding mulit-year contracts, which would fix this

Right. Good effing luck with that. They already "commit" and sign multiple letters of intent that aren't honored. We currently have a coach that is both not interested in the terms of the contract he signed or in his "I'll stay here as long as they want me" and "I'm not going to look at the NFL again" statements.

The NFL has contracted players routinely holding out, and you think it will somehow all be different with millionaire teenagers?

The more giant-ass piles of money that are involved, the less spoken and written words mean anything.

grumbler

December 7th, 2023 at 10:56 PM ^

The fact that college football is not a professional league is easily demonstrated by the fact that the universities can require players to be students.  Were the players professionals, that would be an illegal restraint of trade.

Once the sport professionalizes, it will be necessary for schools to divest themselves of entities that they cannot operate within their charter, just as they cannot run airlines, restaurants, etc. except in service of their educational and research missions.

And then those professional teams will die off, because they will discover that college football prospers because of the schools, not the players.

TheBlueAbides

December 7th, 2023 at 10:20 PM ^

No, they still need to be able to transfer, imagine signing a contract to play at msu then your coach does that, or any of the many schools that coaches bounce? What happens if you sign a contract with a school then coach prime comes and boots your ass. There is a better solution, and I don’t know what it is, but binding contracts for student athletes isn’t it