3&OUT: RR and Staff didn't get Gator Bowl rings?

Submitted by MichTits on

I just finished my copy of Three and Out and, like many of you, I am sorting through some very conflicted feelings.  First of all, I would say that I found the book is a great representation of the last 3 years with a lean toward defending RR, while still acknowledging mistakes that he made and pinpointing a few key moments that if handled differently could have made his Michigan tenure more positive and probably long-lasting. 

There were several parts of the book that tugged at my emotions and changed my perceptions, and anyone that followed the program the last three years had to feel that as they read this book (both pro-RR and anti-RR).  I was certainly disappointed in the way the RR hiring was handled, disappointed in the way RR handled many situations as the head coach, and disappointed in several people in key positions to support RR that did not.  I agree that we are in a good position where we are today with Brady Hoke, and I am excited about the future and turning the page.

All that said, perhaps the thing that astonished me the most at the very end of the book is that John U Bacon mentions that all of the players and personnel that played in the Gator Bowl got Gator Bowl rings despite the loss.  Rich Rod and his staffers were not sent rings, and John U seems to imply that it is because they were not thought to be Michigan Men.  When I read that, I said out loud "Really?  Unbelievable..." After all of the work that they put in, and everything that they went through as a team they don't even deserve a commemoration of their culminating game?  They were the coaches of the team that got to the Gator Bowl.  That isn't in question.  Granted, its not like they are being denied their national championship rings, but it is still just one final jab to a coaching staff that endured many.  I, for one, was extremely disappointed to read that.

His Dudeness

November 14th, 2011 at 1:17 PM ^

Remember, life's a lot easier if you're a good guy. Doesn't mean it's always fair, doesn't mean things always go the way you want. But being a good guy still matters.

DB will find that out the hard way, IMO.

Tater

November 14th, 2011 at 2:28 PM ^

It's sad that the only person who didn't act like a "Michigan Man" was the one doing the hiring and firing for the University of Michigan.  Bo taught DB better than the course of action he took on many levels.  AAMOF, DB has done quite a few things that would have had Bo wanting to pin him against a wall and say, "WTF are you doing?"

I only disagree with one thing in Dudeness' post.  I feel that DB's actions won't ever come back to bite him on the butt.  DB's teflon coating is so thick and strong that any teeth would just slide off.  He'll still be telling everyone how great he is when he is 80 years old.

His Dudeness

November 14th, 2011 at 3:11 PM ^

Was Bo the GM of the Tigers? I am lost with how Bo firing Ernie relates to DB firing RR.

I think there is no way any coach can be deemed a success or failure in 3 seasons (unless he lied on his resume, beat up his wife, etc.) and I believe RR only was genuinely given 2 (NOBODY was winning with the 2008 team save Carr).

So no I don't believe DB had a legit case for firing RR.

Blue boy johnson

November 14th, 2011 at 3:17 PM ^

There was nothing wrong with firing Ernie because Bo thought he was slipping as a broadcaster and said as much publicly. I like Ernie, but I too thought he was slipping as an announcer in that time period. I think his leave of absence did him well. Ernie was much better when he returned to the booth.

I was just getting used to Rick Rizz and "GOODBYE BASEBALL"

You can see from this 1990  LA Times article where the idea that Bo fired Ernie came from. It seems to have come right from Ernie.

http://articles.latimes.com/1990-12-19/sports/sp-6462_1_tigers-fire-ernie-harwell

 

 

Harwell said he suggested being re-evaluated after 1991 with his return possible, but, "Bo was very forthright, which I appreciated, and he said, 'We have decided that we really don't want you to come back.'

ChuckWood

November 14th, 2011 at 9:41 PM ^

You should only get a ring if you win the bowl game.  Someone with a 6-6 record and a loss in a bowl that probably shouldn't exist in the first place, should not receive a ring for having a failure of a season.  Give them a little placque of the event.  

Rings are for winners.  and teacher of the year awards are for teachers.  Come on man!

MGoNukeE

November 14th, 2011 at 10:20 PM ^

This is not an issue about what the former coaching staff should or shouldn't have gotten. The fact is the team, including the former coaching staff, played in the Gator Bowl, and the current system awards teams that play in the Gator Bowl with Gator Bowl rings. The fact that Michigan didn't send the former coaching staff Gator Bowl rings is at best inconsequential but petty and at worst classless. If you disagree, consider this: West Virginia (the same school that ran the smear campaign against Rodriguez in 2008) sent their former coaches rings for their BCS bowl game in the 2007 season.

ChuckWood

November 15th, 2011 at 1:18 AM ^

Sorry, I was actually commenting on the person who said they wouldn't want a ring because it would remind them of failure and I agree.  

Rich Rod should have gotten a ring for being the leader and coach of that team due to the fact that they gave rings out.  Do I think anyone should have received a ring?  No.

MichiganPoloShirt

November 14th, 2011 at 1:26 PM ^

Really? You feel sorry for rr and his crew because we ain't send them some funky ass rings from a game they laid down in and embarrassed the whole Michigan program on national television. I don't care what you read in that book it doesn't take a book to understand they didn't deserve a ring. I sat through those three years and I don't need a book to tell your it was the most horrible football experience I have witnessed in my life and to end it the way the rr staff did was embarrassing and unfair did you watch the game we were totally unprepared outplayed out coached......hold on let me read your thread again cause I know dam well u ain't tryin say your upset rich rod didn't get a ring for that bowl game!!!!!

markusr2007

November 14th, 2011 at 1:26 PM ^

but, it's all in the rear view mirror now. 

Ole Miss, Tulane, Arizona, and FAU programs have been effectively reduced to rubble.

RR is not lacking for coaching opportunities at places that would probably love to have him.

If he gets the Ole Miss job, there could be future payback for Mullen & Co. 
 

I'm curious whether RR's former assistants like Barwis (consultant for NY Mets) and Calvin Magee (Pitt) would follow him.  Perhaps not.