MGoPodcast 13.14: We Took Their Punts Comment Count

BlueBarron December 6th, 2021 at 7:00 AM

1 hour and 16 minutes

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1. Offense vs Iowa

starts at 1:00

Michigan fans channel their inner European soccer league by singing apropos of nothing, having wandered the desert to achieve this joy. Iowa gives up their longest run of the year and longest pass of the year on back to back drives. How fast is JJ McCarthy?? What can Donovan Edwards not do? Playing conservatively after going up 14-3 was the right call. Cade had a bit of a rough game. Iowa was aggressive against Michigan's ground game, didn't generate much outside the Blake Corum run. Schoonmaker had a couple of the best catches of his career.

[The rest of the writeup and the player after THE JUMP]

2. Defense vs Iowa

starts at 29:20

Iowa's offense being bad met all expectations. Iowa cut their game plan around stopping Aidan Hutchinson. Despite this, Aidan wins the MVP with one sack and four tackles. Stats fail to encompass Aidan Hutchinson. Nice to see younger players come in and make a few plays.

3. Hot Takes, Special Teams, and Game Theory

starts at 43:22

Takes hotter than that one Iowa fan in the stands who was clearly swearing about a 3rd down play call. Is Aidan Hutchinson good enough to fix the Lions?? How many Big Ten teams could Donovan Edwards start at QB for? Michigan wins the special teams battle. Iowa has an excellent punt returner who finishes the game with negative yards. Multiple punts almost get blocked before the actual punt block. Eviscerating Iowa special teams felt like the real "win with cruelty" moment of this game.

4. Miscellaneous

starts at 1:01:07

Michigan draws Georgia in the playoffs. Don't immediately pencil in Alabama, Cincinnati is #5 in SP+ and gets an Alabama team that struggled against a struggling Auburn team. Georgia is Iowa but with the #2 offense in the country. The line is -7.5 which seems quite large for how well Michigan has been playing. Hockey had a weird split against Minnesota this weekend. They're setting up nicely for their annual Mel Pearson second half of the season rally. Very important win for basketball against SDSU. Frankie Collins is looking like the starting point guard. Hunter Dickinson's 3-point shooting is quite the development.

MUSIC:

  • “Pump It Up ”—Endor
  • “Mr. Brightside”—The Killers
  • “Party Hard”—Andrew WK
  • “Across 110th Street”
THE USUAL LINKS:

The Godzilla vs Mothra battle of special teams.

Comments

GCS

December 6th, 2021 at 8:52 AM ^

Yes, this. If you were really paying attention, you could tell that they were intentionally trying to make it happen. They started the song as Michigan was teeing up to kick off after a touchdown, and they always cut music right as play starts. I noticed that and was waiting for the crowd to take it from there. They didn't disappoint.

1VaBlue1

December 6th, 2021 at 8:01 AM ^

While JJ is fast, I'm pretty sure the 85% Corum was running with his protection.  Sainristil also caught up to deliver a block in front, and JJ turned to touch some guy behind.  But, at that moment (when JJ turned), you see Blake accelerate away from everybody and make the safety miss him by a step because he had taken an angle for whatever gear Corum was running at.

I know that JJ can run, and that Sainristil can fly - but neither one of them are in Corum's league when he's healthy.  I hope he's 100% in ~four weeks...

MGolem

December 6th, 2021 at 8:04 AM ^

Not trying to besmirch Cincinnati but I don't see them having much of a shot against Alabama because Saban is essentially unbeatable when he has a long layoff to prepare. Alabama has lost here and there but typically only the odd regular season game (with only a week turnaround between games), and once in the championship game (with less than two weeks turnaround). Saban has 25 days to prepare specifically for Cincinnati. Not a recipe for success. 

lhglrkwg

December 6th, 2021 at 10:31 AM ^

I know SP+ is supposedly very predictive (or perhaps more predictive than anyone else) but aside from Cincinnati at #5, it's also got A&M at 6, Clemson at 8, and Wisconsin at 9. Those rankings seem awfully wonky to me. At some point stars matter and I think Alabama will blow them out

WFNY_DP

December 6th, 2021 at 10:45 AM ^

Not just stars, but programmatic big-game experience is a thing.

Maybe Cincinnati is able to come out super loose and relaxed, but they have some pressure. Not only have they been working for essentially TWO years to prove they belong here, but they maybe feel extra pressure to prove it on the big stage. It's a recipe for coming out tight.

Alabama? This is business-as-usual for them, and their coach knows how to prep a team for it. They're used to the moment.

1VaBlue1

December 6th, 2021 at 8:04 AM ^

Also, I'm pretty sure that Cade's int was behind All because of the OL/DL engagement in front of him.  One of the replay angles showed that he threw it about shoulder level in the gap between linemen, so if he'd had led All it probably would have bounced off the OL's hat.  Not sure it shouldn't have been caught anyway, because it was still in his belly after turning around.  But that's tough catch...

gbdub

December 6th, 2021 at 11:43 AM ^

OTOH, I think the outside WRs were starting to get a little separation, and a deep shot to give Anthony a chance to "go get it" may have been the way to go.

Cade had all day in that particular pocket (as he did most of the game except when Iowa had schemed an unblocked blitzer) and you could tell he was getting antsy. 

DT76

December 6th, 2021 at 8:21 AM ^

Second quarter. At the time, it felt like the game was turning into a typical Iowa slog and it was frustrating to watch. But now I think of it as a chess match where M chose not to play into Iowa's hands. Several drives started from about the 5 and very conservative play calls. But no interceptions was key. Finally they had a drive where they made a few first downs and after a third down sack, rolled a punt all the way to about the Iowa 25 and the slog was over.

WFNY_DP

December 6th, 2021 at 8:57 AM ^

I was at the game, and a buddy turned to me and said they needed to try to do something to move out from the goal line. I said, nope, the only way Iowa can win this game is if we give their crap offense the ball on our 25 yard line. It's going to be boring for a spell, but you just have to trade punts with them knowing our defense isn't going to give up a long drive.

 

How demoralizing must it be for Iowa's defensive and special teams guys to go out there consistently and pin a team inside their 10 yard line, and then have your offense *repeatedly* go three and out and get nothing to show for any of it?

lhglrkwg

December 6th, 2021 at 10:34 AM ^

Frustrating we couldn't move the ball on the ground and get some firsts, but yes the staff played it right. Iowa's only hope was to play field position, force turnovers and hopefully get easy points. The offense got bogged down but playing field position with Iowa up 2 scores was fine.

AlbanyBlue

December 6th, 2021 at 11:04 AM ^

Great point DT -- this is one of the reasons I (usually pretty negative) thought this game wouldn't be much of a problem. Michigan knows -- and dare I say, enjoys -- how to play this way and has great special-teams play as well. It was strength-on-strength in the 2Q, and we were better at it.

WFNY_DP

December 6th, 2021 at 12:15 PM ^

I definitely kept checking the scoreboard during the second quarter. It felt like a tight game, and then I'd look up and go, "oh yeah, we're still up 11 and they can't move the ball" and everything felt OK again.

Once we came out, got the stop to open the third, and went down and scored, it just felt like that was it. There was no way they were coming back from the deficit.

1VaBlue1

December 6th, 2021 at 9:15 AM ^

That song precedes the recent string of failure vs OSU.  It was also the theme song for Bo's TV show 'Michigan Replay' when it first started back in the 1970's.  I'm pretty sure that the MGoBlog version we hear is the same recording that Brandstatter and Bo used back then.  It sure sounds that old, anyway!

Hannibal.

December 6th, 2021 at 9:39 AM ^

McNamara didn't have a rough game as much as he had a rough first half.  He was turrrrible in the first half.  The throw to All was bad.  He also tacopantsed a wide open receiver on one drive that would have been a 15-20 yard gain and he turfed a flare to Edwards. 62 yards on 18 pass attempts with 0 TDs and an INT.  

 

But he was great in the second half (albeit with not many pass attempts).  107 yards on 6 pass attempts with a TD and no INTs.

RockinLoud

December 6th, 2021 at 10:14 AM ^

Never in a million years would I have thought UM would be 12-1, with the only loss coming on a ref assisted MSU super bowl game (wish we could play them again now), Big Ten champions, and a playoff birth this season. I was certain that 7-5 was the most likely scenario, with an absolute thrashing by OSU again. 

TrueBlue2003

December 6th, 2021 at 6:40 PM ^

I certainly didn't think they'd be 12-1 but I was always very high on the talent of this team and thought there was a path to getting to 12-1.  Trying to find my comments but I don't really know how to search post history.

There is this increasingly popular concept of the "Blue-Chip" ratio which is just the percentage of four and five stars on your roster.  Michigan came into the season with the 10th highest ratio in the country at 58%.

So they had the talent.  The questions were, would they now have the experience and would the coaching do the talent justice?  Happy that the answers to both were "yes".

DennisFranklinDaMan

December 6th, 2021 at 11:13 AM ^

So odd the way this season played out. We honestly weren't particularly dominant until the end. Nebraska could easily have been a loss. Rutgers could have been a loss. Penn State could have been a loss. Even Wisconsin, until we knocked their starting QB out early in the second half, we were only up by 3.

I know we all think of this as a super-team, now, but they honestly weren't, for much of the year. They were undeniably better than many of us feared they would be, but man did we benefit from things falling our way for much of the year. (Except against MSU, obviously). 

But ... but ... how in the world did that team all-of-a-sudden turn into this team ... against Ohio State and in the Big Ten Championship game! Aren't you supposed to dominate Rutgers, and struggle against Ohio State, not the other way around???

Bizarre. And, needless to say: Awesome.

dragonchild

December 6th, 2021 at 11:28 AM ^

For the first time, they actually played Rutgers and Indiana with one hand tied behind their backs, to save that punch for OSU's mouth.  If the Rutgers game started slipping away, they would've just used that punch.

I mean, I and others were wrong about it, but that's because Michigan completely broke tendency from prior years.  They always had some stuff ready for OSU, but generally over-prepared for Rutgers and under-prepared for OSU.

But you're right; they weren't a super-team.  A lot of players were still raw and refined their game over the course of the season.  McNamara needed to develop his timing with the receivers.  And of course, the coaches wasted half a season with that split zone crap.

Very frustrating to watch at times, but all in all, a great learning curve for a revamped staff.

snarling wolverine

December 6th, 2021 at 1:44 PM ^

Do you really think that Jim Harbaugh, a man who played in the OSU rivalry and won it twice, didn’t understand how to prepare for it?

Give him a healthy, functional QB and the 2016 and ‘17 games are wins.  We had great gameplans those years but our QBs couldn’t fully execute them.  We did some nice stuff offensively the next two years as well, but on the other side of the ball Don Brown just got figured out.  Just our luck that OSU hired a coach who’d practiced against Brown every day for a few years.  

This year we finally had the combination of a functional QB and DC that OSU didn’t have inside knowledge of.  We saw the results.

jmblue

December 6th, 2021 at 1:41 PM ^

You're setting the bar too high.  No one wins every game by a ton.  The 1997 Michigan team struggled to beat a 7-6 ND and 7-5 Iowa.  Alabama, the national title favorite, lost to a so-so Texas A&M and was seconds away from losing 10-3 to a .500 Auburn team.

We opened the season with three straight 300-yard rushing performances.  We crushed a UW team that the fancystats love by three touchdowns on the road.  (Yes, at one point in the game our margin was three points, but for most of the game it wasn't.)  Beating PSU on the road, with a healthy Clifford, is not something to scoff at.

This team showed great promise from the start, although early on its passing attack needed time to gel, in part because of Ronnie Bell's injury.  When that got going - and when we also found a good use for McCarthy as a situational backup - this team became very difficult to stop.

TrueBlue2003

December 6th, 2021 at 7:15 PM ^

This is flat out not true.

We dominated all three of our non-conf opponents (and the two MAC teams were actually good!), had one clunker against Rutgers, and then dominated a good Wisconsin team that was favored against us to move to #4 in ESPN's FPI.  Check out the thread about it.

This was the same metric that preseason gave M a 2% chance to win the division and a 0.7% chance to win the conference.  And yet, after 5 games they were so dominant they had moved all the way up to #4.

They really dominated all season long other than the second halves of Rutgers, Nebraska (a game that they still covered), and MSU.  Only three halves in the middle of the season that weren't dominant.

gmoney41

December 6th, 2021 at 11:15 AM ^

I will add that it’s Manchester City is the team that plays Wonderwall and the reason they do is that the Gallagher brothers are Man City diehards and in their record breaking season in 17-18, they adopted the song as their theme song with players singing with Noel Gallagher after big wins in the locker room.