Nebraska's place on this list tells you a lot about B1G OL play [Patrick Barron]

The Enemy, Ranked 2022: Offensive Line Comment Count

Alex.Drain August 22nd, 2022 at 2:00 PM

Previously: QuarterbackRunning Backs, Receivers 

Welcome to Opponent Preview week! Next week is the real preview week of Michigan Football, but this week will be mostly about the opponents, as I've got four more The Enemy pieces lined up, and I believe we should have the conclusion to Opponent Watch as well. Get hype! 

We are now on to the offensive line, which is a little bit longer of a piece because there are more names to talk about. I provide the depth chart below each team, showing the starters and a couple reserves who may see the field or are of note. Ideally, these are the first up at guard or tackle. A quick note about the format: bold refers to a returning starter while italics refers to a starter at another school who has transferred in. For this piece, I lean heavily on PFF grades for the non-conference teams because traditional stats don't exist for OL and I didn't really watch any of these teams last year. Then we transition to using my own charting from FFFF last year once we get into the B1G slate. 

 

12. Connecticut 

LT LG C RG RT
Valentin Senn Noel Ofori-Nyadu Jake Guidone Christian Haynes Chris Fortin
Chase Lundt     Niko Pohahau Danny Antolovich

The Huskies rank last on our list due to an offensive line that is in the process of being rebuilt without a ton of talent or experience. They do return two starters from last season, both of them at guard, and both posted solid PFF grades. However, we must point out a pretty important caveat with UCONN's PFF grades: PFF does not curve based on quality of opponent and the Huskies played a dreadful schedule last season, with 1/3 of the games being UMass, Holy Cross, Yale, and Vandy. So take both those scores with a grain of salt. UCONN imports a transfer center with plenty of experience, Jake Guidone, but he is coming from Dartmouth, which makes him not the most fit to block teams like Michigan. Canadian Chris Fortin slides in at RT after playing some last season, but he received poor marks in those outings, and Austrian LT Valentin Senn transfers in from Colorado, boasting little experience. 

This is a group with a couple decent returning players (but ones who were decent against a horrendous schedule), a transfer center from the Ivy League, and tackles with little experience and recruiting rankings outside the top 1,800 national players in their respective years. The depth doesn't offer much of anything to note either, so this is pretty much the same story for what UCONN has been in this series so far, an untalented positional group offering little experience or depth. 

[AFTER THE JUMP: OLs with fewer Ivy League transfers]

 

[Colorado State University Athletics]

11. Colorado State 

LT LG C RG RT
Brian Crespo-Jaquez Dante Bivens Jacob Gardner Gray Davis Dontae Keys
Ches Jackson      Gage Gaynor  

If you like fresh faces, this positional group is for you! Four of the five starters are transfers from elsewhere (three of which were starters at their old school), and the fifth didn't play at all last season at Colorado State. That player is Brian Crespo-Jaquez, a RS FR left tackle who will see an NCAA field for the first time when the Rams arrive in the Big House in early September. Crespo-Jaquez was a 3* outside the top 2000 in the class of 2020, so not a ton can be expected of him against a P5 opponent. The other four starters are transferring in. Dante Bivens arrives from Tulsa having not played much the last two years, but posting subpar PFF grades back in 2018-19. Jacob Gardner and Gray Davis (not the ex-California Governor) both followed their head coach from Nevada, the former being extremely poor at center last season, while the latter graded out okay. Dontae Keys headed to Fort Collins from Florida International, and he also did not receive the best grades. 

As a unit, this OL has some potential for a mid-major, but is going to need time to gel and will need to be coached up. Gardner and Keys were bad last season, Bivens was bad when he last played, and Crespo-Jaquez is totally green. They will all need attention from the coaching staff and since they're all wearing name tags, they need to get to know each other too. There are no formal returning starters, and the depth is slim pickings. The idea that this will be a functional OL that will give Michigan any trouble in two weeks seems farfetched, frankly.

They were pretty similar to UCONN in terms of ranking them. Both have okay players with experience at guard, CSU has a center who hasn't played very well vs. an Ivy League transfer center at UCONN, and both have iffy left tackles with little experience. What tipped the scales ever so slightly to CSU is the presence of a RT who has at least been a starter and the fact that their players have played moderately tougher schedules than what UCONN faces. But this is splitting hairs between two bad offensive lines who aren't going to be able to hold up against Michigan. 

 

10. Hawaii 

LT LG C RG RT
Ilm Manning Stephan Bernal-Wendt Eliki Tanuvasa Micah Vanderpool Austin Hopp
    Maurice Ta'ala Solo Vaipulu  

Hawaii returns two starters on their offensive line in LT Ilm Manning and Micah Vanderpool, both of whom graded out pretty well in PFF's data. That gives them a nice pillar to stand on, and pretty quickly moves them ahead of either of the other two non-conference opponents. They also have a number of other players with experience. Center Eliki Tanuvasa played snaps equivalent to about half a season last year and while not great, wasn't horrendous against MWC competition. RT Austin Hopp at RT didn't play much for Hawaii last year but has played many snaps in his past at Western Illinois back in 2018-19. Even backups Maurice Ta'ala and Solo Vaipulu have gotten some run, with Vaipulu in particular playing close to a starter's workload a year ago, faring well as a run blocker and poorly as a pass blocker. The only player without much experience is projected LG Stephan Bernal-Wendt, a former walk-on in his sixth year in the program, featuring mostly on special teams in past years. 

The combination of solid returning starters and many guys who have spent most of their collegiate years on the island makes Hawaii clearly the best non-conference OL in my opinion. CSU and UCONN are both the case of new coaches trying to piece together OLs that can hold up against lesser foes out of scotch tape, glue, and transfers. Hawaii at least has the cupboards stocked with returning players for new head coach Timmy Chang, which is a better situation. One of the only places on this roster where that is the case. 

 

[Marc-Gregor Campredon]

9. Rutgers 

LT LG C RG RT
Willie Tyler III Curtis Dunlap Ireland Brown JD DiPenzo Hollin Pierce
  Mike Ciaffoni Gus Zlinksas     

Rutgers had a bad offensive line a year ago and in the offseason they swapped out most of their names for new, also bad names. The two returners are half-starter C Ireland Brown (also a neat name), who took over for Nick Krimin late in the year with okay results, and Hollin Pierce at RT, who was not good. The rest of the starters are gone (the prognosis on Reggie Sutton's injury looks bad) and Greg Schiano replaced them with spare parts from elsewhere. Willie Tyler III replaces Raiqwon O'Neal at LT and he received a subpar grade (with horrible pass blocking scores) from PFF at ULM last season and that came against Sun Belt competition. Not great!  

LG Curtis Dunlap switches allegiances inside the B1G from Minnesota to Rutgers, and he was PFF's worst-graded Minnesota OL last season in spot duty. RG JD DiPenzo comes over from Sacred Heart, and though he has many career accolades in that conference, the adjustment in competition is going to massive, so it's hard to expect a ton. This picture is not terribly rosy, and I wouldn't expect a ton from the reserves either. Ranking Rutgers last among the B1G schools was pretty easy in my mind, between the lack of returning starts and the poor collection of names that are on paper. Hard to see this unit moving anyone at the line of scrimmage. 

 

8. Iowa 

LT LG C RG RT
Mason Richman Tyler Ellsbury Logan Jones Connor Colby Jack Plumb
  Matt Fagan   Nick DeJong  

I have to make a quick note here about the bold players: Mason Richman and Jack Plumb were more half-starters than full starters last year. Richman started a lot of the year but then got demoted after a brutal outing mid-season, while Plumb received a similar amount of snaps. 

Iowa's offensive line has produced some very good players over the years but this line does not seem to be one of those. The two OL we starred on the FFFF diagram for the B1G Championship Game, Kyler Schott and Tyler Linderbaum, have both exited the program. What the Hawkeyes are left with are two new starters at LG/C (a huge hole at C in particular after losing the Rimington winner), and a bunch of returning starters/half-starters who were awful in pass protection. Mason Richman and projected reserve Nick DeJong got the full cyan circle for poor performances, while Connor Colby and Jack Plumb both received half-cyans denoting very poor pass protection, while being good run blockers. This was a theme for the Iowa line, okay on the ground, but a mess in trying to keep the QB upright. That was the case for last year's Iowa line, and now you've deleted the two best players from it.... ouch. 

Tyler Ellsbury and Logan Jones are slated to step into those roles, a SO and a RS FR, respectively. Both were decent recruits, with Ellsbury a 3.5* and Jones a top 300 4*, so there's reason for optimism, but the recent record of Iowa offensive line play is not as rosy as it once was. There are a lot of problems plaguing the Iowa offense, inept coordinating/coaching, awful QB play, WRs who can't get open, but also an OL that sabotaged the passing game through horrendous pass blocking. And for the record, I wasn't too impressed by the run blocking against Michigan either. All of this comes together to paint a grim picture, and it lands Iowa second-to-last among B1G opponents. 

 

PSU's OL in one picture [Patrick Barron]

7. Penn State

LT LG C RG RT
Olu Fashanu Landon Tengwall Juice Scruggs Sal Wormley Caedan Wallace
  Hunter Nourzad     Bryce Effner

The forever Achilles heel of the PSU offense projects to be that yet again, and will be so until proven otherwise. Three starters exit State College, Eric Wilson, Mike Miranda, and Rasheed Walker, but it's not clear to me if losing any of those guys constitute big losses. The returners are Caedan Wallace, who we cyan'd in FFFF and is a horrible pass-blocking RT, and Juice Scruggs, who I thought was a weak-link at guard and now moves to center. Everyone else is new, *gulp*. 

As is always the case with the PSU OL, they have talent! RS FR Landon Tengwall slides in at LG and he was the #54 overall recruit in the 2021 class, per the 247 composite. At the other guard spot, Sal Wormley, who played a little last year, is the projected starter, and he too was a top 300 player back in 2019. New LT starter Olu Fashanu is not quite the same level, but he was a 3.5* in the 2021 class. None of these players should be turnstiles, yet the PSU coaching staff has found a way to make that happen. And when you remember that Wallace and Scruggs, the two returning starters who were not particularly great last year, were also blue chippers once upon a time, then you should be able to realize why I'm so down on PSU's OL. Reserves Bryce Effner and Hunter Nourzad have reasons for optimism (Effner played some last year and was mediocre; Nourzad is a transfer who was good at Cornell) but if they can't win jobs on this line, I'm tempering expectations massively. 

The level of talent raises them slightly above Iowa, but that's about it. This is a bad OL until James Franklin can produce one that isn't. 

 

6. Maryland 

LT LG C RG RT
Jaelyn Duncan Mason Lunsford Johari Branch Delmar Glaze Spencer Anderson
    Aric Harris Amelio Moran  

Look at all that bold!!!! Maryland is the only team on our list to return every starter from last season, as well a player with plenty of experience on the interior, Aric Harris. Let's face the facts: Maryland's offensive line was bad last season. But, they rank ahead of Rutgers/Iowa/PSU because there's a reason to hope that it could be better, and that reason is experience. Returning an entire line intact, as well as a depth piece, is a nice luxury that most all teams don't get. For that reason, the Terps get boosted a decent bit, even if what I saw from them against real opponents was pretty ugly. 

All five guys graded out pretty decently to PFF, but I was a good bit lower on Maryland's OL than those scores indicated and I believe I was justified in what I saw against Michigan and other good teams. Jaelyn Duncan is a former blue chip recruit who isn't terrible, but also isn't good. In his fifth year in the program, I'm not sure how much better he can get, but if I had to guess one guy to get a star on our FFFF diagram, I'd wager it's him. Both guards got cyan'd last year, though PFF liked Delmar Glaze a bit more than I did, and he's a guy who rotated out to tackle at times last year (while Spencer Anderson played inside). There's some positional flexibility here, but I'm not entirely sure that was because the players are versatile and not because they were trying things out to plug gaping holes. 

Overall, though, while I don't love this group, I don't think they should be horrendous, especially against middle and lower tier B1G teams. Will they be able to give Tagovailoa time against your Michigans and Ohio States? I'm skeptical. But against Rutgers and Northwestern? Possibly! Experience never hurts, and they rank in the middle of the pack for that reason. 

 

[Patrick Barron]

5. Indiana 

LT LG C RG RT
Luke Haggard Mike Katic Zach Carpenter Tim Weaver Matthew Bedford
  Randy Holtz     Parker Hanna

On a 2021 Indiana offense that was incompetent at best and anemic at worst, the OL was far from the biggest culprit, and that unit returns three full starters + a couple guys with experience. Luke Haggard is the leader for this positional group, and he's a legit left tackle. Mike Katic is back on the interior of the line and he's mostly just a guy. Old Friend Zach Carpenter takes over for good at center after starting there some last year. I doubt he's ever going to be an All-B1G level player at this point, but I think Carpenter should at least be decent based on the pedigree. Tim Weaver is another new starter at guard, one who rotated in at points last year and PFF thought was fine. The only weak spot would appear to be Matthew Bedford, who was playing at guard last season against Michigan and is now out at RT. I didn't love him at all last season, but he was also not on my list of worst B1G OL and is a returning starter with another year under his belt. 

Indiana gets 3/5 of a decent line back and adds two rotational pieces who have seen the field. They also pick up a transfer in Parker Hanna, who may play the role of 6th man. For me, that moves them ahead of teams with multiple weak spots like Maryland, but perhaps a little short of the teams ahead of them based on what I saw last season. 

 

4. Nebraska

LT LG C RG RT
Teddy Prochazka Kevin Williams Jr. Trent Hixson Broc Bando Turner Corcoran
    Ethan Piper Bryce Benhart  

The Huskers represent the largest leap of faith I've taken in this piece, but here I'm betting on upside. Last year Nebraska had a young and inexperienced OL that struggled, but the level of talent on the line makes me believe that this group is ready for a step forward. Injuries forced Nebraska to start Teddy Prochazka against Michigan at LT as a true freshman last season. He did his best and then went back in the Crock Pot to marinate. In year two, I am buying he can be a solid player as a former blue chip recruit. It's a similar story for Turner Corcoran on the other side of the line, who was atrocious last season in his second year in the program, but he's a former top 50 recruit who was a first-time starter. I'm betting on improvement. 

Bryce Benhart was a starter last season but as of now, appears to be behind Broc Bando, a veteran who didn't play a ton last year. If Benhart finds his way through, he's also a former 4* recruit, even if he struggled last year. Ethan Piper and Trent Hixson provide Nebraska with two options at center who were both wobbly a year ago, but again, both should improve. Kevin Williams Jr. arrives as a JUCO transfer at LG to complete the line projection. 

With this group, I'm betting on returning players who have tasted the B1G and have talent being better coached under a new OL Coach. Donovan Raiola (brother of longtime Lions center Dominic Raiola) arrives as the new OL Coach and he boasts NFL experience and at the very least should be a fresh voice instead of the same old same old that wasn't working. He's got blue chippers at multiple positions to work with who were too young/not ready for the show last year, but could be this year. I like that mix and am willing to take a chance, and when has that ever gone wrong with Scott Frost and Nebraska? 

 

[Bryan Fuller]

3. Michigan State

LT LG C RG RT
Jarrett Horst JD Duplain Nick Samac Brian Greene Spencer Brown
Brandon Baldwin     Matt Carrick  

A world in which an MSU OL is top three on Michigan's schedule says a lot about the caliber of OLs on the schedule. To the credit of Mel Tucker and the Spartans, they cobbled together a decent OL last season, even if they relied on Kenneth Walker III to produce most of the rushing yards and also a personnel trick. That trick was constantly rotating players on the offensive line, as MSU had as many as nine or ten bodies in frequent rotation during the course of games, to cut down on mismatches. If someone was getting whipped repeatedly, they'd get yanked off stage and someone else would take their place. That's less possible this season, as the depth has been depleted, but the players who remain should be... fine? 

JD Duplain is good. He's a solid left guard who could wiggle his way onto All-B1G lists. Nick Samac was their better center last year, even if he was the nominal backup behind the departed Matt Allen. Jarrett Horst was an Arkansas State transfer who hung in there at tackle last season, while former 3* recruit Spencer Brown, who got some run in the Peach Bowl, is the favorite to start opposite him across the line. The one total newbie on the line is Wazzu transfer Brian Greene, who was a half-starter out in Pullman last season and has not impressed PFF over the course of his career. Matt Carrick is the 6th man on a line that has seen the AJ Arcuri/Kevin Jarvis/Blake Bueter types take off, though he's recovering from surgery. 

Would I say this is a good offensive line? No, not really. Is it bad? Also no. I do have some concerns that MSU's OL may revert harder than expected without the benefit of constant rotation, but as of right now, there's no one I envision as an obvious cyan, which is better than you can say for anyone up to this point. I don't think there's an obvious star other than Duplain perhaps, but having five mediocre players somehow lands you at #3 on this list. I guess this is what happens when Wisconsin, Minnesota, or Purdue aren't on the schedule. 

 

2. Illinois 

LT LG C RG RT
Julian Pearl Zy Crisler Alex Pihlstrom Isaiah Adams Alex Palczewski
  Jordan Slaughter   Zachary Barlev  

The Illini are #2 on our ranking after having a very good offensive line last year, one that powered an excellent rushing attack. 3/5 of that line departs, but they have a half-starter plugging the hole at center and bring in JUCO starters at both guard spots. Combined with a coach who has a track record of building solid OLs, that was enough for me to rank them #2 (again, still an indictment of the quality of B1G OLs). Of course, it helps to still have Alex Palczewski around at RT, who has been a Dude since 2018 and should be an easy All-B1G pick. This is a line of players who are better run blockers than pass blockers, and Palczewski exemplifies that. 

Julian Pearl is the starter on the opposite end of the line and he graded out pretty solidly last year, which gives the Illini offense a pair of solid, experienced pillars to build around. Alex Pihlstrom slides in after 382 snaps a year ago, worse than the departed Doug Kramer and in need of improvement in pass blocking, but far from a liability. The incoming JUCO guys Zy Crisler and Isaiah Adams are somewhat unknown, but they ranked 25th and 26th nationally in the 247 JUCO transfer rankings, so they are not total nobodies. And this is where I'm trusting the Bielema track record. The depth is a little sketchy, but overall, I like the line because of the known quantities you have to build around and the likely plug and play ability of the transfers overseen by a coach who knows what he's doing at OL. 

 

[Bryan Fuller]

1. Ohio State

LT LG C RG RT
Paris Johnson Jr. Donovan Jackson Luke Wypler Matthew Jones Dawand Jones
  Enokk Vimahi      Josh Fryar 

I think it says a lot about offensive line play in the B1G that the top-rated OL on Michigan's schedule this fall is an OL that got abused by 2021 Michigan's pass rush and struggled to open holes on the ground in The Game. To be clear, though, the reason why they're #1 is that was an uncharacteristically bad performance by the OSU offensive line. In last year's FFFF for OSU's offense, every single offensive lineman was starred on our diagram. They were very good most all of the year, with only elite passrushers/DTs having the ability to muck it up, notably Nebraska/Michigan/PSU. Against everyone else, they were a fortress around Stroud and paved the way for Henderson. Who knows how they will fare against the big boys this year, but at least against the middle of the road, Ohio State should be excellent again up front, which is better than you can say for everyone else. 

The Buckeyes lose forever OL Thayer Munford and OT Nicholas Petit-Frere, but return three other starters. Paris Johnson Jr., former 5* OT, started at guard a year ago and now slides over to his natural position to take the job vacated by Petit-Frere. Dawand Jones is the projected starter opposite him, a mountain of a man who was seemingly destined for the NFL until The Game went very, very poorly. Both were very strong last season outside of the end of November, and while there is some adjustment needed for Johnson switching positions, I have no reason to believe either are going to be an outright cyan. I'd expect Jones will have his star again heading into late November 2022. Luke Wypler was a first year starter at center a year ago and was pretty solid. I'm expecting improvement from him and he has a shot to threaten for All-B1G at that position. 

Matthew Jones was last year's sixth man on the line and did well in that role; now he gets a real shot at starting, as the projected RG. Donovan Jackson, a former 5* OT who seems more natural at guard, is set to slide into Paris Johnson's old spot at LG and should be fine there. 

At the end of the day, even though I am far from in love with Ohio State's offensive line after watching them against Michigan, they rank 1st because the bar is pretty low here and they generally did quite well against all the non-Michigan teams. And when you see Aidan Hutchinson doing swim moves around Pro Bowl tackles in the NFL preseason, maybe you can cut OSU a little bit of slack too. I didn't want to rank every OSU offensive positional group as tops among opponents, but I also have to tell you the truth. 

 

[Bryan Fuller]

Where would Michigan rank on this list? 

I'm going to give you what you want, people: #1. 

In my mind there isn't much question here. Michigan had an awesome offensive line a year ago, one that definitely outplayed the top-ranked opponent OL on this list head-to-head, and they may have gotten better. Hayes, Keegan, and Zinter should be better with another year under their belt as starters, Michigan likely upgraded at center going from Andrew Vastardis to Olu Oluwatimi, and then a former top 300 recruit with many years of marinating in the program, Trente Jones, slides in at RT. This is an OL that could have 3 or 4 guys starred on an FFFF diagram, no weaknesses among the starters, a 6th man who would start at most B1G schools (Karsen Barnhart), and more depth on the two-deep with young guys like Greg Crippen and Reece Atteberry, who the program like.  

There's not honestly much else to say... this is the easiest answer I've given so far. This is an OL that was superb in pass protection a year ago, really only losing battles against Arnold Ebiketie and PSU until they played an NFL defense in the playoff, and they paved almost everyone, with the exception of perhaps MSU and Wisconsin, who keyed in to stop the run. And again, this group is probably better. Compared to the schedule, which simply does not boast many good OLs this fall, Michigan is clearly the cream of the crop. 

Comments

truferblue22

August 22nd, 2022 at 3:37 PM ^

Just in-time for them to rotate right back onto our schedule. We have the worst division crossover luck. We played Wisconsin like 472518 times in a row, and now that they're finally garbage, they rotated off our schedule. 

 

When's the last time we even played AT Illinois? I barely remember what their stadium looks like.

 

EDIT: Apparently in 2019?! I absolutely do not remember that game. 

EDIT EDIT: Wow, just watched the highlights. That's about as ugly a 20 point win as possible. 

EDIT EDIT EDIT: Lovie Smith is back as an NFL head coach?!? LOL why? How?

ShadowStorm33

August 22nd, 2022 at 10:13 PM ^

Went to the 2007 game at Illinois. Man it was fun to beat them, especially given the unexpected hate we received (you'd have thought we were in Columbus; what seemed like 90% of the student section was wearing Muck Fichigan shirts; etc...), and because they were actually good that year (they knocked off undefeated, #1 OSU in the Shoe and went to the Rose Bowl)...

kjhager444

August 22nd, 2022 at 11:17 PM ^

FWIW, Nebraska is our crossover keeper for ~6 years at least prior to USC/UCLA joining (And OSU has Wisconsin now).

Also, I was at that game in Champaign with a few U of I buddies (been in Chicago 10 years)- It was a 28-0 snoozer and then it was a three point game and it was super confusing to witness live.

olm_go_blue

August 23rd, 2022 at 11:46 AM ^

I went as well. My wife and I lived in Chicago and waffled attending leading up to the game. The morning of, my wife said get ready, we are going! 

Got some really good seats for about $100, a few rows back and near 50 yd line. Stadium is super underwhelming,  but the day was nice and UM was rolling. All of a sudden it's 28-25 and the fans really started getting into it.

Got the dub, went to a fun farm nearby and got some cider, stopped at Culver's on the way home.

stephenrjking

August 22nd, 2022 at 2:51 PM ^

Can't ask for a more favorable series of matchups when one of the team's biggest questions is who replaces two all-world players at the DE spots. 

So, suppose Michigan doesn't have a national title-caliber DL this year (elite DLs are essential to winning it all). A season in which the conference isn't producing a bunch of unassailable OLs is a good year to gets guys field time and get them better. Meanwhile we look like a team ready to win a bunch of trench battles on the other side. 

That's the recipe for a lot of wins. A chance to sustain eliteness. If Michigan can just get the NIL recruiting game together, the arrow is pointing up. 

(Also, isn't it nice to have such a solid OL after so many years of struggling there? Michigan's OL situation was so bad for so long, one of the things that really hurt Harbaugh from the Hoke transition). 

The Homie J

August 22nd, 2022 at 5:07 PM ^

Agreed, a cohesive and deep OL can paper over a lot of issues on offense.  In my mind, the reason Wisconsin and Iowa can recruit so lowly (compared to Penn State/Ohio State/Michigan) and yet remain competitive enough to win 8-10 games a year and compete for the B1G title more often than not is because they remain steady and strong on OL.  Those two never have stellar QB's or WR's yet they can take almost any RB and turn him into a monster and just pave teams week in and week out.

Blue Vet

August 22nd, 2022 at 2:56 PM ^

What a ray of sunshine on a rainy NYC day. Go Blue! Go OL!

Speaking of the East Coast, so what you're telling us is that Connecticut may not be a towering football power?

PeteM

August 22nd, 2022 at 3:38 PM ^

Best line of the piece was the clarification that Colorado State o-lineman Gray Davis is not the former California governor. Though if that Gray Davis was playing right guard for the Rams at (according to Wikepdia) 79 years old then I would feel to compelled to say sorry Gavin Newsom -- Gray gets returned to office immediately.

BuckeyeChuck

August 22nd, 2022 at 4:39 PM ^

Last year, OSU tried a 4-tackle lineup. They were great! (until the Michigan game) But still lacked a bit in terms of run blocking. Hopefully going back to a traditional lineup with 2 true guards (Donovan Jackson is not a future tackle, Alex) will allow for more mobility.

Bo Harbaugh

August 22nd, 2022 at 5:52 PM ^

Honest question here Chuck, not trying to troll…

After seeing Ryan Day’s first couple years, where they absolutely roll weaker competition, but look soft at times when playing extremely physical and talented teams, is there a sense among OSU fans that he’s built somewhat of a Big 12 style looking team? 
 

As much as I hate Urban the person, he always seemed to build his teams from the inside out - bruising O-lines, elite, disruptive D-lines.

Just a rival’s perspective here, but Day seems to have fallen in love with the air raid and places less emphasis on the trenches.

Thoughts?

Fan from TTDS

August 22nd, 2022 at 7:14 PM ^

Well Ryan Day got four new defensive coaches.  Jim Knowles is the new defensive coordinator and is being paid $2 million to fix the defensive problems over the last two years.  Over the last few months Mickey Marotti, the strength and conditioning coach, made sure that they are not going to be called soft when they take the field in their games this year.  Oh and Ryan Day also fired the offensive line coach Greg Studrawa.  Day did all this after having just a 2 loss season and winning the Rose Bowl.

Bo Harbaugh

August 22nd, 2022 at 8:08 PM ^

Yeah, seems they know what the issues are.  My point was that they looked somewhat soft and definitely confused against Oregon, extremely soft on both lines against Michigan, and the Rose Bowl win against Utah was in a shoot out where they were actually getting out toughed for much of the game until their superior talent took over.

When Michigan played UGA the talent and physicality gap was obvious.  That said, UGA had a generational defense of 1st and 2nd round NFL players.

The year before, OSU was outclassed by Bama - again because their defense was soft (couldn’t get to the QB) and o-line was unable to create space for the backs.

My question is/was, with all that talent, is there a sense that Day is misusing it. UM has long underachieved for various reasons, but going air raid was never one of them.

BuckeyeChuck

August 22nd, 2022 at 9:59 PM ^

Urban sure did place an emphasis on physicality on both sides of the line. To say Day does not emphasize it as much as Meyer is fair, though games which they get manhandled are rare (last year in AA was a bad day; OSU's 2020 OL physically dominated a very good Clemson DL, so there are examples of both).

Against Oregon last year, they were still working in an inexperienced back 7. Oregon exposed a flaw in OSU's defensive approach and the defensive coaching staff didn't adjust; staff changes were inevitable after that game.

As for Bama, well...they're Bama. I couldn't believe OSU stuck with the 4-3 such that a LB was left to cover the Heisman winner in the slot. Atrocious.

I don't think having an explosive offense is the problem. We'll see if defensive staff changes provides a solution to the woes on defense. But you're right that Meyer excelled because of physical line play, and it's hard for anyone else to match that kind of intensity.

Seriously

August 23rd, 2022 at 9:25 AM ^

My point was that they looked somewhat soft and definitely confused against Oregon, extremely soft on both lines against Michigan, and the Rose Bowl win against Utah was in a shoot out where they were actually getting out toughed...

Kerry Coombs started the year as DC. He's one of the most beloved OSU coaches in the post-Tressel era and one of the two best recruiters. Day demoted him after Oregon and fired him, the DB coaches and the LB coach at the end of the season. Don't know how much more clearly Day could signal he knows his defense had become soft and porous.

Same thing happened with O-line coach, although that wasn't as big a change considering there had been grumbling about him for years. (I think Ohio State's inability to run against Michigan was at least as big a deal as the overmatched defense.)

Short answer is, yes, most Ohio State fans recognized this and were complaining about it all year.

rob f

August 22nd, 2022 at 5:20 PM ^

Great write up, Alex!

This offensive line of ours is potentially the best we've had at Michigan since Lloyd and his staff roamed the sidelines.  The skill guys get the headlines and the glory, but without the beef and brains up front offensively, a lot of offensive gameplans can and often will suffer breakdowns.

 

philthy66

August 22nd, 2022 at 5:55 PM ^

Where would you put the schools that you mentioned: Wisconsin, Minnesota and Purdue? Don’t need an in depth answer cause I know you didn’t need to do those schools. I’m just curious where those schools might rank within your ranking. 

Blake Forum

August 22nd, 2022 at 6:19 PM ^

All of these have been helpful, but I think this one is the most informative. We're all fretting about how Michigan can rebuild its front seven and find some elite pass rush, but the reality is, the front seven will probably look good against the majority of the schedule just by dint of the OLs they're facing not being that great. Obviously OSU is another matter, but Michigan will have time to find and develop their defensive weapons before that game 

Fan from TTDS

August 22nd, 2022 at 7:02 PM ^

I subscribe to an Ohio State website and one of the writers rated the top 5 Guards in the B1G.  He has Trevor Keegan at #4 and Zak Zinter at #1.

#2 Duplain - MSU

#3 Colby - Iowa

#5 Beach - Wisc

M_Born M_Believer

August 22nd, 2022 at 10:10 PM ^

While MSU is ok, I believe these rankings have more to do with the extremely powder puff schedule Michigan has this year.  

Yet another reason why I am pumped for this year.  Yay, yay, yay at Iowa is always a big time road game (I believe that I read somewhere they are 5-1 in their last Top 10 matchups at Kinnick), but that team is simply not that good.

Plus is does help that we are at home this year against MSU.  If we were ranking MSU against all the other BIG Ten teams, each ranking would be 2-4 spots lower while Michigan would maintain their spots....

dragonchild

August 22nd, 2022 at 9:30 PM ^

I’m presuming Alex took into account that floor matters more than ceiling when it comes to O-line.

 I mean, if the Hoke years taught me anything, it’s that having one or even two NFL linemen isn’t going to help you. The weakest link will get picked on.

That’s why I like Michigan at #1: as Alex says, our worst starter projects to be at least good.  Moore uber alles.

Mercury Hayes

August 23rd, 2022 at 8:51 AM ^

Feels good to have the best offensive line again. I remember years of reading previews about how Michigan never had 4th and 5th year guys like Wisconsin. I remember Brian and others saying it was going to take 3-5 years and sure enough now that we've gotten past the transition phase (and COVID) Michigan has depth at offensive line (and elsewhere). It is a promising sign that we are hopefully ready to compete and have those 10-12 win seasons every year.

TeslaRedVictorBlue

August 23rd, 2022 at 9:18 AM ^

As good as we've been, I'm curious - is the close knit, consistent, well groomed nature of our O-line a better outcome than lets say every couple years pulling a top 5 OT type? What would that allow us to do differently? Would that help us compete with the Bama/Georgia's better, but be minimally more effective against the Indiana's and Maryland's?

Our OL got abused against Georgia last year, and with good reason, but curious if more blue chip prospects increases our upside enough or if a 3 year starter after 2 years of learning, should be the target.

Koop

August 23rd, 2022 at 10:21 AM ^

While it's comforting to hear that a bunch of the O-lines Michigan will face this year have weaknesses, I can think back to prior years (admittedly, it's been a few years) when Michigan couldn't generate a significant pass rush without a blitz. Give a FBS QB enough time, and he's going to find an open receiver or a running lane. That goes double for some of the dual threat QBs Michigan will face on their schedule. Hutchison and Ojabo (and Hill) helped disguise a lot of potential weaknesses last year.

Really, really hoping that the pass rush comes along quickly. With the breadcrumbs we have right now--taking a chance on a last-minute EDGE transfer; glowing reports about the interior DL and less so the DEs--I'm concerned.

plamonge

August 23rd, 2022 at 1:15 PM ^

After years following football, I believe that the most important factor in team success is the offensive line. More than QB, other offensive players, and the defense. Yes those are all important, but without a great offensive line, those other players cannot do anything. 

So, I'm really excited about this group and this offense.