QB going forward ...
So having traveled to PSU for whatever you want to call that ... I think the question has to be raised about who should QB going forward. First, I want to add that JOK played up to his abilities vs PSU ... good scrambles, some positive throws and of course we had drops and he still has an issue with not throwing balls away instead of getting sacked ... especially on 1st down. But be that as it may, Michigan is not going to anything other than a normal bowl game and with our next 3 games being Rutgers, Minnesota and Maryland, I think Peters needs to get game experience starting next week. JOK is gone next year and Speight is unavailable, and McCaffrey needs to red-shirt so why not let Peters get some real meaningful action?
Next season will likely have Peters and McCaffrey dueling it out (with perhaps WS) but we should be able to win the next 3 games without sensational QB play anyway. Isn't it time to get Peters some very valuable "real" action as our QB?
Go Blue
October 22nd, 2017 at 2:26 AM ^
JOK was serviceable tonight and actually grew- the rest of the team was much worse- we have bigger problems than QB
October 22nd, 2017 at 3:32 AM ^
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October 22nd, 2017 at 5:44 AM ^
on the coaching staff putting together a decent game plan.
October 22nd, 2017 at 8:37 AM ^
October 22nd, 2017 at 9:36 AM ^
I haven't seen a single coach make a play out there. Inexcusable!
October 22nd, 2017 at 9:45 AM ^
I know! Remember when OKorn audibled into I-form play action on 4th and 11?! What a dope!!!
October 22nd, 2017 at 9:47 AM ^
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October 22nd, 2017 at 9:31 AM ^
WR is a tire fire- JOK did the rational thing, given bad receiving, and just scrambled for yards. What else could he do?
October 22nd, 2017 at 11:37 AM ^
I've been saying this for weeks. I think it's time for Harbaugh to hire an actual WR coach with a proven track record. The experiment of having a GA coach the position has been an utter failure judging by the product on the field. IMO WR is the biggest issue with the offense. They are just not getting open and when they do it is taking forever. Even a good OL can't sustain blocks forever so it's making our subpar OL look even worse than they are.
October 22nd, 2017 at 1:29 PM ^
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October 23rd, 2017 at 9:39 AM ^
would be taking a step back. He has had his chance and he's not the guy to lead this team to bigger things. Time for one of the young players to step up next year, if we want the improvement we need.
October 22nd, 2017 at 5:31 AM ^
Agreed. I don't want Peters in there unless he's actually going to be better than O'Korn. And he definitely could be (and probably is) worse at this point. Taking more L's doesn't help the long-term health of the program and it certainly wouldn't help recruiting. O'Korn didn't have a perfect game by any stretch, but he played better and it was clear to see all the limitations around him: a porous right side of the OL, no running game, poor WR play. I'm highly doubtful Peters will be any better in this offense.
October 22nd, 2017 at 8:53 AM ^
John had so many drops, I couldn't believe it. I think the moment was too big for the team, for most of the game it was over their heads. I think John did fine, giving the extraordinary atmosphere and the way the Nitannies were playing. Drops, bad route running, and poorly executed plays contributed more to our loss than poor QB play from JOK.
October 22nd, 2017 at 10:07 AM ^
Serious question: Who is actually happy with their QB play?
I look around college football and there are not many guys playing the position who are delighting their fan bases. I see defenses that are increasingly athletic, aggressive, attacking--all designed to befuddle young QBs who, once they've maybe gotten a handle on how to play the position, graduate or go in the first round of the NFL draft.
McSorley is pretty serviceable somewhat due to his ability to run and largely due to the all-world running back who plays next to him. Ohio State fans wanted to bench Barrett a few weeks ago (and these guys will actually play college ball until they are seniors because the NFL doesn't want running quarterbacks). Nobody else in the big ten is good. Sam Darnold is supposed to be the number one pick--are USC fans happy with him?
This is why people point to the OL as problem number one to be fixed. A run-first, balanced, play-action offense like the one Harbaugh wants to run depends mostly on a consistent, year-over-year, plug-and-play OL that can run the ball and keep the quarterback clean on 7-step drops. This requires good recruiting every year and depth, depth, depth. Not to say we can't have a good QB, but that a good OL makes a good QB a potential champion QB.
October 22nd, 2017 at 2:45 PM ^
October 23rd, 2017 at 9:37 AM ^
not much else he can do. Our defense was atrocious and the biggest reason we lost. But, I have been advocating for the future and would like to see it. We need a big upgrade at QB next year if this team wants to take the next step.
We need either Peters or McCaffery to be the man next year and hopefully take the next step. I would actually pull the RS off of McCaffery and play both him and Peters the rest of the year and get them ready to compete for the starting job next year. Hopefully one of them shows some serious promise these last 5 games and can get the upper hand to being the starter next year. They also have bowl preperations and a bowl game to play to continue to improve, use that time to get them ready.
October 22nd, 2017 at 2:36 AM ^
October 22nd, 2017 at 2:56 AM ^
Second Penn state is overrated and they havent seen a D like ours.
Third Just because we currently only have two losses there is no way we could finish with 2-3 losses at the end of the season. Zero chance.
All proclaimed by the masses on MGOBLOG. Where absolutes are usually absolutely wrong.
October 22nd, 2017 at 3:09 AM ^
October 22nd, 2017 at 2:58 AM ^
Dude what the fuck are you talking about.
If we lose any of the next 3 games, we need a new fucking head coach.
October 22nd, 2017 at 8:22 AM ^
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October 22nd, 2017 at 9:39 AM ^
this is simply not the case. Mgo on the weekends is officially the new MLive. Weekend M fans that read the prediction at the end of the game preview, have their expectations unmet and therefore feel the need to vent before Monday comes. They get pissed that they have to have a shitty explanation about the game and have to have this convo 6 times throughout the week since they are the "resident M fan" at work/school/whatever.
They were promised playoffs and B10 titles by year 3 and by god they deserve an explanation.
October 22nd, 2017 at 9:04 AM ^
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October 22nd, 2017 at 9:09 AM ^
after the second play of the game last night. I know last night was one of the worst starts to a game that I have ever seen Michigan come up with in a football game, and it was sickening to me as well, but sometimes I wonder if some of the know it alls on the board have ever played competitive sports past junior high. Maybe just trolls, but would love to play golf against some of these people for money. First 3 putt or double bogey and they would be done.
October 22nd, 2017 at 9:10 AM ^
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October 22nd, 2017 at 12:21 PM ^
2 upvotes for you for the obvious sarcasm.
October 22nd, 2017 at 9:36 AM ^
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October 22nd, 2017 at 5:25 AM ^
I agree that Peters needs to get the experience but i don't see Jim sitting O'Korn down.
October 22nd, 2017 at 9:35 AM ^
Another point: what if Peters really is much worse than JOK? What if JH isn't playing him for a good reason?
October 22nd, 2017 at 10:02 AM ^
and if he is he shouldn't start.
But we are effectively down to 2 QBs. If Perters is now the sole backup, he absolutely HAS to get some more game experience under his belt before he has to come in after an Okorn injury or something.
What if Okorn looses his helmet driving down the field late in the game vs Wisconsin?
Peters needs some time.
October 22nd, 2017 at 2:37 AM ^
October 22nd, 2017 at 2:40 AM ^
Maybe JOK starts, we get up 3-4 scores by the third quarter, and then we put Peters in? JOK wasn't Michigan State bad today, if that means anything. I would prefer Peters to start. But I feel like the offense is a systemic issue with poor Oline, WR play and poor coaching (Hamilton, Drevno).
October 22nd, 2017 at 2:44 AM ^
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Not that we will ever be up 9.
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October 22nd, 2017 at 12:48 PM ^
O'Korn had some terrible throws yesterday, and he did the thing where he holds the ball too long and eats sacks as a result. All of the offensive units really collapsed, qb included.
October 22nd, 2017 at 2:43 AM ^