Dad Rawk and Michigan Stadium
So, this week there were quite a few comments on "Dad Rawk" and the Michigan Stadium experience. The kind of music that Jimmy might have listened to. I'm in that age range. In fact, I'll be 56 this week, definitely qualifying as being "over the hill." Brian et al like to mock the music of older eras. Especially Dad Rawk.
But as I listened to the Podcast, and the comments about "music" and "rawk" and Pop Evil, it got me wondering: are there songs that work in the stadium across generations? So here are a bunch I was curious about. Umm, I'll go on record to say I don't listen to ANY of these. Actually, none of them. And I really am tired of a bunch of them. And it is painful to compile this list. But I've heard them all in sports environments. And I'd love to hear from you young whippersnappers about which of these songs are definitely "dad rawk," and which of these have "jumped the shark" and should never be used under any circumstances in Michigan Stadium. Being from Chicago, I've heard a bunch of these at Bulls and Blackhawks games.
- Lose yourself
- Here comes the Boom
- it's my time
- Let's get it started
- All I do is win
- In the air tonight
- Seven Nation Army
- Welcome to the Jungle
- Whomp (There it is)
- Start Me Up
- Thunderstruck
- Rock and Roll Part 2
- The Final Countdown
- Get Ready for This
- Song 2
- Eye of the Tiger
- Jump
- Jump Around
- Battle without Honor or Humanity
- We Will Rock You
- I Wanna Rock and Roll All Night
- Old Time Rock and Roll
- We Built this City (worst. song. ever.)
- Sweet Caroline (this was Dad Rock or old even when I was a student!)
So, my question is NOT whether these are good songs. Nor am I asking whether or not you like them. I'm really more interested in which of these are "dad rawk," and which "dad rawk" songs are still ok to be used (and which should be banned in Michigan Stadium).
EDIT: It really is easy to say what you DON'T like. I'm sure there are a bunch of you who hate this whole list. Like I said, I don't listen to any of these songs for personal enjoyment. HOWEVER . . . I don't think rawk music is leaving the stadium. I don't think we are going back to just the Michigan marching band. That being the case, make suggestions on what music you think you would like, and would be appropriate, and would work across several generations.
September 23rd, 2015 at 3:00 PM ^
Sweet Caroline actually gets the student section more pumped than almost any other song. The whole section sings along to it.
September 23rd, 2015 at 2:49 AM ^
"We Built This City" is 30 years old, was literally played to death within a year of its release, and was written for SAN FRANCISCO. Why would any other city play it for any reason? It isn't really even a rock & roll song.
September 23rd, 2015 at 6:44 AM ^
How was it literally played to death?
September 23rd, 2015 at 7:32 AM ^
Somebody doesn't remember the 80's.
September 23rd, 2015 at 7:39 AM ^
Playing in the background: We Built This City
September 23rd, 2015 at 9:40 AM ^
There was one in Columbus, where they replaced the traffic guy with a local traffic reporter. And threw in the radio station call letters. I heard the same thing later than summer when I was in Pittsburgh for a few days, where they redid the traffic section.
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September 23rd, 2015 at 12:05 PM ^
The team should run out of the tunnel to this song LOL
September 23rd, 2015 at 6:41 AM ^
The problem is the volume. One thing that would be interesting to know is the mean, median and range of ages of fans in attendance. My assumption is that the athletic department knows this information and this may be guiding the music selection.
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Also "Let's Go Blue" - and MMB covers of songs. The MMB can play whatever it wants as far as I'm concerned.
September 23rd, 2015 at 7:56 AM ^
is they are so quiet that you can barely hear them. Our local high school band of 30 kids is as loud as the 300+ person MMB. I realize it is probably hard to blow while doing all that high stepping, but just mic them up.
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Being from Chicago, I've heard a bunch of these at Bulls and Blackhawks games.That's just it - they're songs that pro sports teams use. Why should Michigan copy the pros? I haven't heard a good explanation as to why it's necessary to play this stuff now. I graduated a little over a decade ago. We had zero RAWK played in the stadium and we were fine. Our home field advantage was good. In the time I was in school, I think we lost three home games in four years.
September 23rd, 2015 at 12:03 PM ^
And then Appalachian State happened...
September 23rd, 2015 at 6:59 AM ^
How about we listen to the marching band play?
September 23rd, 2015 at 12:11 PM ^
I love hearing the marching band play ''Every time we touch'' multiple times per game...
September 23rd, 2015 at 7:08 AM ^
I had never paid too much attention to what comes over the speakers, other than, "God that Pop Evil song is horrible". Because of that and the fact that the first time I heard the term "dad rawk" was on this blog, I came to associate the term with newer, Nickelback/Buckcherry-type stuff that plenty of dads my age (33) through early 40s listen to, as opposed to just the less timeless forms of classic rock. Now I'm kinda bummed I can't think of THAT stuff as "dad rawk" anymore, because goddamn do I despise it hahah.
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Nix Jump Around - it is a tradition at Wisconsin games and it is one of the most annoying things I have ever listened to. Rock and Roll Part 2 is also something that should be reserved to the pro arena.
It would be a tough choice if I could choose between getting rid of the TV timeouts or the piped in music. I think I would choose getting rid of the TV timeouts because that would take the piped in music with it.
September 23rd, 2015 at 7:41 AM ^
Calamity Song by The Decemberists, but only when we play Nebraska. I'm still waiting to use the line about "setting the lay of Nebraska alight" after we kick their corn-husking asses.
September 23rd, 2015 at 8:12 AM ^
Final Countdown should be there! Any music is OK as long as he volumeis turned down.
September 23rd, 2015 at 8:27 AM ^
the rawk in half I think most of us would be happy. Its ok to have a moment or two to talk to the person next to you without having to raise your voice.
I found the selection clean but surprising there was hardly anything from the last 2 decades. How can a school 45 miles from Detroit not play a little Eminem?
September 23rd, 2015 at 1:12 PM ^
Beep bop Bo by the skull monkeys just to see the look on everyone's face.
Edit: either of these would be hilariously fantasitc during replay timeouts.
September 23rd, 2015 at 8:32 AM ^
I give you "round and round" which rhymes "round" with "around" and "enough" with "enough", includes a gratuitous Shakespeare reference, and a completely nonsensical guitar solo. Also "boys are back in town" which is so grating to the ears that even a verse or two in one's head threatens to shatter the little bones that allow hearing. Lastly "every rose has a thorn" where the thorn on a rosebush is kin to dawn after night and a cowboy' s song. These are the worst songs ever.
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I never thought I was a "Get off my lawn" type, but I do not like all this shitty music during games. The majority of it is overused, predictable and cliched. And my reaction is not to 8 years of bad football. I remember the days before stadium rock and they were just better.
If they're going to pipe in music of the stadium rock kind, let it be AC/DC or something similarly hard. Zeppelin would be good. Someone said Immigrant Song - yes. But no more Journey. No more pro team music. And for the love of God, no more Seven Nation Army. I love Jack White but I really have come to hate that song.
September 23rd, 2015 at 8:46 AM ^
In the extremely unlikely circumstance that we should get an SEC team to actually play a game in Ann Arbor one fall, would it be possible or appropriate even to have them enter the field to Thomas Dolby's "Key To Her Ferrari", or perhaps we could go further back with Mel And Tim and "Backfield In Motion"? Both just seem to fit the ethical framework of that conference well.
September 23rd, 2015 at 8:48 AM ^
I don't want to hear any music other than that played by the MMB in Michigan Stadium. The band can play whatever it wants, but we don't need to have every minute of game day filled with piped in noise.
/I spend a lot of time and money taking care of this lawn, please get the fuck off of it kid.
September 23rd, 2015 at 8:54 AM ^
Don't mind some music but would like to avoid copying and replaying the popular stuff like
- Let's get it started
- In the air tonight
- Seven Nation Army - PSU
- Welcome to the Jungle
- Whomp (There it is)
- Start Me Up
- The Final Countdown
- Who let the dogs out
- Jump Around - Wisconsin
- We Will Rock You
- I Wanna Rock and Roll All Night
- Old Time Rock and Roll
- We Built this City
- Sweet Caroline
I'd prefer the band mostly but otherwise newer or different stuff. How can we be the Leaders when we play the same old music as everyone else? I don't know shit about Hip Hop but would be up for some.
More Dad Rawk that might work
"Bad to the Bone" George Thorogood
September 23rd, 2015 at 9:00 AM ^
If I never hear that song again, for the rest of my days, I will be so happy.
But I'm a young guy and I'd rather there be NO music of any kind besides the band. Any music that gets played at a stadium is going to probably be stuff I don't like to listen to in my personal life, and I don't really think anyone is going to want to hear a playlist off my iPhone either. So let's just listen to the band together.
September 23rd, 2015 at 9:02 AM ^
MMB used to play "Black Dog" by Zeppelin and always sounded great. I believe the Pep Band plays it at basketball games, too.
September 23rd, 2015 at 9:07 AM ^
This instant replay was brought to you by Night Moves, by Bob Seger!
I still love the song, though.
September 23rd, 2015 at 9:10 AM ^
non-stop by the MMB, except when the MMB does game-related music (varsity, the victors, etc.).
September 23rd, 2015 at 9:23 AM ^
The Jock Jamz are terrible. Terrible. We don't need to play Journey, Bob Seger, Neil Diamond, Baha Men or any other overplayed and boring stadium hitz. Folks need to start thinking outside of the box here!
If Jock Jamz are here to stay, let's do it the Michigan way. We can be leaders and not followers. We can create our own entire genre of stadium music. Detroit is Rock (and techno...and rap) City. Without favoring garbage like Pop Evil (did one of them blow Dave Brandon? I'm still unsure how that even happened), we can get local and creative.
Seven Nation Army works because the beat is good for simple crowd participation. It's the same thing with the BOOM BOOM CLAP of We Will Rock You. Some of the best crate diggers anywhere are just down the road from A2. Some of the best beat makers work just down the road (including Dr. Dre who often records in Ferndale). If Michigan can work with Michael Jordan on uniforms, we can also try to work with top talent in the field of making beats. Can you imagine how much more hype the players, recruits and fans would be with a customized Michigan music program? Whose music would be better to get the crowd going - an aging prog rock band or that of someone who can customize the beat for the experience? The fact that we haven't already taken this route is unfortunate.
[note ** I'm a staunch supporter of the MMB and wish that's the only music we ever heard played in Michigan Stadium. My 3-year old daughter has been singing The Victors since age 2. What I want might not match up with the modern gameday experience and so I'm resigned to thinking of ways to do it better]
September 23rd, 2015 at 9:54 AM ^
Anything that is creative and not the same old schlock would be great. MM Band stuff #1 and new/creative piped in stuff a distant second. I'd be up for even old stuff if it was fresh.
September 23rd, 2015 at 10:12 AM ^
No.
September 23rd, 2015 at 10:19 AM ^
I condemn Pop Evil because they're terrible. The only plus in their column is that they're local. Don't be fooled into thinking that local = good. Local can often = terrible. That's why a bad local band like Pop Evil could only sell about 100 tickets for local concerts (though I expect the Brandon handie might have increased their sales).
Also (and you seemed to ignore most of what I wrote), it's about crafting music/beats to fit the gameday experience. Just because a band sings about the Stadium doesn't make it stadium music. I'd trust Dr. Dre (or any number of beat makers) to fulfill the role about a million times more than I'd trust Pop Evil.
In short, I suggest the opposite of Pop Evil.
September 23rd, 2015 at 11:02 AM ^
You may or may not know that Pop Evil has had some success, with quite a few of their songs being on Sirius Octane channel's weekly Bjg Uns top 15 list. That always gives me a laugh, given all the hatred here for Pop Evil and Nickelback. If these guys can make money doing there music, give them a break, save your condemnation for ISIS.
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