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— Michigan Football (@umichfootball) September 29, 2014
September 29th, 2014 at 1:03 PM ^
September 29th, 2014 at 1:05 PM ^
Hoke has refused to answer most questions and shown zero remorse for the manner in which Shane's head trauma was handled. He refused to address how head injuries are handled on the sidelines and seems unwilling to say how any head injury would be ascertained, saying it is up to the players to decide if they need to come out, acknowledging that head trauma has to be handled differently but refusing to give any clue as to how that might be determined or who should be watching for it. Amazing! Defensive. Arrogant. And totally unacceptable.
September 29th, 2014 at 1:05 PM ^
Hoke used very, very few "well..." structures. It's clear that he was coached for this. Despite the coaching, he's in such a bad situation that there are no effective answers.
It's hard to watch someone suffer like that and not sympathize. I'm confident that leaving Morris in after the targeting hit caused his noggin to smash the ground was mere negligence. Hoke doesn't seem like a guy who would ever say "your best isn't good enough." Unfortunately, it's just too true for him.
September 29th, 2014 at 1:05 PM ^
no questions about "why was Morris even in the game at the point the late hit occured when it was clear he was overwhelmed, hobbled, and inffective, and you had a healthy Devin Gardner as a plan B? Were you just trying to prove a point to someone instead of trying to win the game? If you were trying to win the game, did you really think you had the best chance with Shane after 100 yards of offense in the 1st half? After the phantom fumble? etc?"
I'm getting pissed about the head-injury firestorm mostly because it's distracting from the underlying football incompetence issues-- and this presser was a perfect example.
September 29th, 2014 at 1:11 PM ^
is spot on.
Also it astounds me at how poor reporters have become at asking hard questions.
September 29th, 2014 at 1:13 PM ^
I agree.
September 29th, 2014 at 1:13 PM ^
This is completely lost in the firestorm for sure. Morris was averaging under three yards an attempt and had one completion in the second half, and was noticably limping the second half. The fact that he was still being left out there was insulting to the rest of the team. Are you even trying to win? I understand Gardner has not played well this year, but it was pretty evident that Morris was a huge downgrade in running the offense after the first half.
September 29th, 2014 at 1:20 PM ^
Cosign.
September 29th, 2014 at 1:33 PM ^
"I'm getting pissed about the head-injury firestorm mostly because it's distracting from the underlying football incompetence issues-- and this presser was a perfect example."
Completely agree
September 29th, 2014 at 1:06 PM ^
Nuss starting now. This should be interesting.
September 29th, 2014 at 1:07 PM ^
WTF, how many times was he going to say that it is up to teenagers to decide whether they are hurt and should come out?
There's a reason they're not old enough to drink. But they're old enough to be their own doctors?
September 29th, 2014 at 1:13 PM ^
Especially when concussion protocol exists to stop players who think they can still go from risking permanent brain injury, if not possible death.
Brady Hoke is out of touch. I think he truly believes he's got the players' best interests at heart, and that's fine, because I think he probablly does; but his actions show he doesn't know how to exercise that in a game situation.
September 29th, 2014 at 1:08 PM ^
I do find it interesting that Hoke indicated that he had not spoken to DB about this.
Does anyone else find that strange? Certainly makes DB look bad.
How can the athletic director and the head football coach not speak at all especially regarding something this big?
September 29th, 2014 at 1:16 PM ^
and DB told him to say you didn't talk to me. There is no doubt in my mind.
The is DB making sure he distances himself from this incident so he doesn't get fired himself. Just another CEO bunker mentality, separtate yourself from trouble. Disgusting.
September 29th, 2014 at 1:19 PM ^
September 29th, 2014 at 1:36 PM ^
This whole thing seems to have DB's dirty fingerprints all over it. The whole way this conference was handled really smacks of his hubris, and assumption that he's smarter than all the people he's addressing.
September 29th, 2014 at 1:09 PM ^
No.
Seriously...this is all over the national news, gaining momentum and you say you have not talked with the AD???? That is another lie or this combo of Dave and Brady is more flawed than can be described.
September 29th, 2014 at 1:12 PM ^
September 29th, 2014 at 1:21 PM ^
September 29th, 2014 at 1:59 PM ^
Who's that again? Name doesn't ring a bell.
September 29th, 2014 at 2:01 PM ^
either way, awful
September 29th, 2014 at 1:10 PM ^
So that's their answer? After two days and seeing the video he says everybody did the right thing. Apparently he and his entire staff saw only an ankle injury and Shane waving them away as he walked it off, and the medical folk were doing their jobs by keeping silent as he wobbled around. Apparently everyone else in the country is insane for seeing a head injury. Apparently remorse is reserved for people who make mistakes, which he surely didn't.
What. The. Freaking. Hell.
Answers to questions we had:
Do you teach your players to come out when they have a head injury?
No.
Did Nussmeier and you discuss Shane's head health?
No.
Did medical personnel do anything to determine if Morris had a head injury before he re-entered the game?
No.
Do you feel bad that Morris played after taking a headshot, and what steps are you taking to ensure it doesn't happen again?
No, and none.
Fuck him.
September 29th, 2014 at 1:16 PM ^
Did he actually admit that no one assessed Shane for a concussion? At all?
September 29th, 2014 at 1:16 PM ^
My personal favourite was the long-winded question that was essentially, were concussion protocols administered or would they be in a "hypothetical" scenario.
"I would assume so"
THAT'S SOMETHING YOU SHOULD KNOW BRADY.
September 29th, 2014 at 1:12 PM ^
There's no other way to say this, and I say this as someone who despises casual misuse of the word "literally" but...
Brady Hoke is literally Hodor.
September 29th, 2014 at 1:13 PM ^
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September 29th, 2014 at 1:15 PM ^
Also...
Pyongyang's Ministry of Propoganda thinks that Michigan's athletic department is a dissembling bunch of tone-deaf shitmongers.
September 29th, 2014 at 1:19 PM ^
Targeting hit (Hoke said it was) + Wobble = Possible concussion.
There is no way he could know at that moment if Shane was stumbling due to ankle or head. There is no way the medical staff could have fully evaluated him for a possible concussion between the time he left the game and when he re-entered for a play.
Missing the hit in the heat of the battle is bad. Not seeing any error in the process of the medical evaluation given the facts outlined above is way worse.
September 29th, 2014 at 1:20 PM ^
I hate to say that I was a lot more comfortable watching the podium field questions for those first 8-9 minutes than what came next.
I suppose what made me wince more than anything is that it seemed like he was honestly taken aback by the flood of questions about the Shane Morris situation, even getting a little defensive about it. What it underscores to me is that they did a bad job of crisis management here - the school and staff didn't get ahead of potential issues, released a less-than-warm statement and then let loose their head football coach into what they knew would be a tense affair. You could have called "bad presser" last night and sadly been correct, I believe.
I was a bit bothered by the "he felt like he could still play" sequence in this presser - why aren't you telling him that whatever he might think, he's not playing? Why did he make it sound like self-assessment by players was going on? That made it more troubling to me.
September 29th, 2014 at 1:27 PM ^
A little defensive? I'd hate to see a lot defensive
September 29th, 2014 at 1:41 PM ^
September 29th, 2014 at 1:52 PM ^
Because, once you get to 2-3, you suddenly aren't a guy that gives a shit about your players anymore. Jeebus H. Christ...this place is a fucking joke.
September 29th, 2014 at 1:57 PM ^
That's not what they're saying -- they're saying that even if Hoke didn't personally have his eyeballs on his QB and the hit, enough people on the field and sidelines did yet no one stopped play. That falls on the head coach. It's with him that the buck is supposed to stop.
September 29th, 2014 at 2:05 PM ^
how could you know if you don't go through the protocol--but rather a significant possibility of concussion.
Still, the response to a significant possibility of concussion is to take Shane out of the game.
September 29th, 2014 at 1:27 PM ^
The crisis management take is spot-on. That's what amazes me so much about this Athletic Department. These are people who purportedly know the ins and outs of public relations, marketing, branding, etc. They talk about it all the time. And they're consistently and absolutely awful at dealing with controversial stories and bad news days. They're inept. Every one-day story becomes a four-day story, from when they'd fire Rodriguez to gigantic noodles to seat cushions to our players' fucking health.
The doubling-down on this, the fact that it's Monday and they've shown a commitment to backing Hoke on this, means they're going to try to ride it out. This isn't going to go away.
September 29th, 2014 at 1:20 PM ^
No player is going to voluntarily come out of a football game. These kids are competitors and will compete til the very last down. It's up to the coaches to step in and say "woah there, buddy. You need to just sit here and get checked out by the trainers."
Just this Friday night, we had a kid come off the field after a massive hit where he layed on the field for a couple of minutes and tell us that he was "fine" and "good to go."
Brady Hoke is pretty much saying that's all we should have needed to put him back in the game. Anybody else would say "not until you get checked out by a doctor, son."
September 29th, 2014 at 1:22 PM ^
Welp, I was defending what happened based on the fact that he didn't see the hit and so saw the possible concussion symptoms as hurt ankle symptoms.
All he had to do today was say 'I didn't see it in real time, but after watching the film, we should've had him out of there.' Wouldn't have been good enough for some people here, but I would've been ok with that.
Unfortunately, he didn't have it in him to say it.
September 29th, 2014 at 1:23 PM ^
Will Shane Morris or Ben Braden or Khalid Hill or Justice Hayes be available to speak with the media about the incident when Morris looked wobbly on Saturday?
With Shane Morris suffering from a high ankle sprain, (a) does Russell Bellomy become the backup quarterback and (b) would Wilton Speight become next in line?
Are there plans to arrange for each player who's not in the game to always know where his helmet is located?
What have you heard from players about their players-only meeting?
Because this is the first season ever in which Michigan has lost three games before October, what are you doing differently now to make sure that your players remain enthusiastic and focused?
Do you have any plans to change the offensive scheme to take advantage of the skills your players have shown in games to date?
(For Doug Nussmeier) Do you have any plans to watch a game from the booth? If not, why not?
What's your impression of ways that you think the offense can improve?
What was the reason for Kyle Magnuson's benching against Minnesota?
Has the year away from football adversely impacted Will Hagerup's punting skills in ways that might not be correctable this year?
Is Desmond Morgan going to be taking this season as a medical redshirt year?
September 29th, 2014 at 1:26 PM ^
The silver lining - because I've been desperately searching for one - is that it's prompted some pretty funny twitter reactions.
September 29th, 2014 at 1:26 PM ^
I think Nuss just said that he wanted a timeout.
September 29th, 2014 at 1:27 PM ^
Let me see if I understand Hoke on this one. Morris is expected to tell somebody he wants to come out but Devin is told to "stop limping" in last year's OSU game because "nobody needs to see that".
So basically under Hoke your a pussy if you limp with a broken fucking foot and you're suppose to self-diagnose concussions? I wonder if Hoke told Morris on Saturday to "stop blinking and walking like your drunk because nobody wants to see that."
September 29th, 2014 at 1:28 PM ^
Sounds like Michigan's PR and damage control playbook is from the 1980's too.
September 29th, 2014 at 1:28 PM ^
September 29th, 2014 at 1:28 PM ^
This staff has obviously been coached to completely shirk all responsibilities regarding injuries in this presser.
"That's for the medical staff"
"As a football coach, I don't worry about it"
"That's for the Medical Staff to say"
Convienently, the Medical Staff is not available and hasn't prepared a statement.
September 29th, 2014 at 1:29 PM ^
This press conference has DB's fingerprints all over it.
September 29th, 2014 at 1:39 PM ^
Hoke flap in the wind. He'll fire him and keep his job even though Brandon should have been fired about 4 times now.
September 29th, 2014 at 2:05 PM ^
Yep, DB is going to start putting some distance between himself and Hoke. He knows the ship is going down and he's out to save his own job. Having said that, this a situation where the AD and head coach absolutely have to be on the same page. The fact that Hoke said he hasn't discussed anything with DB is even more troubling and shows how incompetent things are being run right now.
September 29th, 2014 at 2:07 PM ^
He was lying.
September 29th, 2014 at 1:32 PM ^
Where is this elusive medical team statement?