Misery Loves Company: Who had the worst night (B1G edition)

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"Big Ten Goes Bust" is the headline on ESPN.

As bad as last night was for Michigan, did some of our conference brethren have a worse night?

* #7 Spartans lose high profile game at Oregon. 

* #8 Buckeyes lose at home to unranked VT. 

* Unranked Michigan humiliated at ND. 

* Northwestern loses to N. Illinois, already 0-2 at home.

* Perdue blown out  at home to C. Michigan.

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My thoughts: Sparty had the worst night. No shame losing at Oregon, but goodbyle aspirations of a national championship. No chance B1G gets a playoff spot now. Whats worse is "little brother's" perpetual inferiority complex seems to have accepted they needed the Oregon game to somehow justify winning the Rosebowl.  If they had won this game, I think they would have had a real shot at a national title. Oh well!

Michgan and OSU's night was about even. Both losses were humiliating - BUT. They were just non conference losses and both teams get a couple weeks to fix their issues (obviously, that is a loaded statement about Michigan).  

NW's night is just the reailty that has become wildcat football. Its sort of surreal. Hard to call yesterday even a bad day for them at this point.

Perdue's shame is the B1G's shame, and their loss is our loss.

 

maize-blue

September 7th, 2014 at 10:47 AM ^

It all sucked. Sparty and OSU are more than likely out of the final four running only two games in. We sucked, we got manhandled, again. Everything sucked.

MaximusBlue

September 7th, 2014 at 10:47 AM ^

How is this even a question? At least sparty looked like they were going to win until the second half. Ohio made a comeback and lost by 4. We didn't score any damn points and looked lifeless in the biggest game of Hoke's career. Again, we couldn't even kick a fucking field goal. This is a easy one.

Frequency

September 7th, 2014 at 10:52 AM ^

Michigan's loss was definitely the worst. We are a team many people had disregarded going into this season, and this loss just reinforced that.

MSU and Ohio had higher expectations (ranked), and while their losses were bad, they will still be talked about because they are good football teams.

Purdue and Northwestern don't even matter because nobody had any expectations for those two teams this year.

J.Madrox

September 7th, 2014 at 10:56 AM ^

They lost on the road, to a very good team. A lot of the national media is giving State credit for making a good fight of it in a really tough enivornment.

The national storyline for Michigan is nothing but laughter and mocking. A lot of people thought Michigan was going to win last night and they got embarrased, that is far worse than what happened to MSU.

Objectively I could try and argue OSU's was worse, they lost at home and I think they are a better team than Va-Tech, while Michigan lost on the road and ND is probably better than Michigan.

That being said, being completly uncompetitive and being a Michigan fan makes me say Michigan's was worse.

Either way, thank god for Maryland and Rutgers, without them propping up the Big Ten's overall record this season things would be really bad.

ckersh74

September 7th, 2014 at 11:00 AM ^

No. 

We played a team that was missing 5 key players and had a QB that had played exactly 1 game in 2 seasons. And we got rolled by 4 1/2 touchdowns. 

I don't even have a bad analogy to go with the egg-laying that went on in South Bend last night. 

Perkis-Size Me

September 7th, 2014 at 11:03 AM ^

It was all bad my friend. All of it. But if you have to narrow it down to just one, its probably Michigan.

MSU looked pretty good for at least half the game, and there's not a whole lot of shame in traveling across the country to go play Oregon and losing to them in their own backyard, a stadium many consider to be one of the hardest places to win a road game in. Many have tried the same endeavor, and many have failed.

OSU's loss was bad, but they can fall back on the crutch of "inexperienced RS freshman QB with a whole new O-Line," going up against a defensive mastermind in Bud Foster. Say what you will about Va Tech's struggles of late, but Bud Foster always fields a damn good defense, and he'd know exactly how to mess with a young QB's mind.

Michigan just looked downright awful from start to finish. We were never even remotely competitve against a mediocre Notre Dame team that was down 5 players, most of whom I believe were starters. We're supposed to be a flagship program for this conference, and our talent level is nearly on par with OSU's. And we consistently underacheive.

Michigan's loss is the most embarrassing because there was simply no excuse to lose that game the way we did and as badly as we did. We got embarrassed by a Notre Dame team that almost everyone in America besides Lou Holtz believes is perenially overrated.

Michigan4Life

September 7th, 2014 at 11:13 AM ^

MSU can still make the playoff. They lost to Oregon at Oregon and did a damn good job playing them until mid 2nd half. If they win out, which is a realistic possibility considering the state of B1G, they have a shot of making the playoff.


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SECcashnassadvantage

September 7th, 2014 at 11:13 AM ^

I am called the jackass on here for being negative. Virginia and Ohio recruits as a group are so far behind the Florida and Georgia kids. They play much better competition and start at 5 here in Florida. We need a coach and we would be good, we need to recruit the South to be great. This isn't 1990 anymore. We will keep repeating what we are doing and hoping for better results. Insane! Pay Harbaugh 10 million a year and he will pull kids and add 20 million in revenue. Soon our stadium and apparel sales have to decline at this rate. Harbaugh would actually raise revenue.

m1jjb00

September 7th, 2014 at 11:15 AM ^

On the rental bus back to the airport a Purdue couple came by and the husband announced, "I'll sit in the back of the bus with the other teams that got bombed. I looked glummer." Nebraska won but yeah.

beerleaguestar21

September 7th, 2014 at 11:16 AM ^

At least State and Ohio played in competitive games. We were embarrassed on a national stage. Barrett with a final drive INT and Oregon pulled away in the fourth. For a good chunk of those games it seemed like B1G teams had a good chance of winning. Whereas with us, after the first quarter the hope was becoming more and more nonexistent. One of the most embarrassing losses in my memory/life

westwardwolverine

September 7th, 2014 at 11:30 AM ^

OSU lost the most, as Va Tech is not very highly regarded this year, so their playoff chances are shot.

Michigan by far looked the worst. 

MSU got beat by one of the best teams in the country at home after outplaying them for a half. Not a whole lot of shame in it. Same thing has happened to USC and Stanford multiple times. 

rbgoblue

September 7th, 2014 at 11:38 AM ^

Ohio State's playoff chances were shot the minute Braxton Miller dislocated his shoulder in practice 2 weeks ago. Like the NW senario, they didn't lose anything last night, it was just a reality check for the fans that even Urban Meyer can't snap his fingers and replace 4 OL starters, a stud RB, and a QB that accounted for nearly all of their offensive production last year. Oh, and their defense still sucks. This team was never playoff bound, and is now 1-3 in their last 4 games with a win against Navy as their only bright spot.


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randyfloyd

September 7th, 2014 at 11:37 AM ^

Were shut out, by thier rival, in the last game they will ever play (in the foreseeable future), after talking shit about "being chicken" for three years. This is the most humiliating loss, since Appy state, and the next moron that calls MSU "little brother" or OSU "ohio", should get punched in the face. I believe that we aren't even close to earning the right to talk shit, about our rivals, and those that do look like idiots.

An Angelo's Addict

September 7th, 2014 at 11:36 AM ^

it's already been stated many times but nobody comes close to us and to say MSU is just absurd. They stayed competitive for three quarters (and was up at half) against one of the best teams in the country at their stadium. They played compeitive ball on a national stage. We shit the bed and looked like an FCS school going up against Bama when ND is nothing more than a mediocre team this year. 

Sione's Flow

September 7th, 2014 at 11:46 AM ^

Our night was worse, we have a coach who preaches about great rivalries and in the last game against ND, we look like an ill prepared FCS team coming in for a payday. And I have a feeling the change in defensive scheme is going to royally bite us in the ass this year. JMFR was a terror as freshman and sophomore, now he looks confused.

Rodriguesqe

September 7th, 2014 at 11:44 AM ^

hypothetical question to those bashing me for saying MSU had the wosrt night: had michigan loss at ND in 97 would any loss of any type by MSU in 97 compared?

Rodriguesqe

September 7th, 2014 at 12:28 PM ^

if, in 1997 (NC year), Michigan had lost to ND, and therefore did not win the championship; would any hypothetical loss by the 1997 MSU team been able to dwarf it?

The point: this year could have been MSU's 1997. The rest of their schedule appears very winnable. All they had to do was beat oregon. They didnt. They lost their 1997 year.

We will not nor were we going to have a 1997 year this year. So as crappy as yesterday was, our stakes weren't nearly as high. Maybe M fans are struggling to come to grips with the fact that we had lower stakes, but that is a different problem.

steve sharik

September 7th, 2014 at 11:44 AM ^

Losing to a MAC team at home for a team that was supposed to be solid is the worst.  Yes, Purdue lost in a similar situation, but they're supposed to be bad.  It's always bad for a B1G team to lose to a MAC team, but NW's was worse. Nebraska got rescued from being the worst by Abdullah, and Iowa had 3 points on the board at home against a MAC team in the 4th quarter.

As for the shit show that was the league's premiere teams in prime time, none of those are as bad, in the fact that they all lost to nationally prominent football programs with a similar level of talent.  Ranking those three, Sparty was most acceptable b/c it was the #3 team in their place, and MSU actually was in control until momentum and the heat got to them a little.  Then I would say ours b/c even though the score was embarrassing, it was to a top 20 team on the road, and it was evenly played in a lot of respects.  Ohio was the worst of the three, losing to an unranked team on their own field.  Even if they had Miller, their OL is brand new and is a shambles at this point, and they weren't that great on D to begin with, especially in the back end.

I think Sparty and Wiscy are the best teams in their respective divisions as it stands right now, and if McEvoy can get even average as a passer, the Badgers are going to be tough.

I think we don't have much of a shot at all at beating Sparty, home or away, but we an definitely get Ohio.  I'm looking at hopefully 10-2 and an Outback bowl appearance.  But for that to happen, Devin can only do his job, not everyone else's, and can't force things no matter the situation.  Most importantly, our bump man technique needs to improve and/or we need to play more zone.

readyourguard

September 7th, 2014 at 11:56 AM ^

Spartans had the best night, all things considered. They stood toe to toe with the #3 team in the country. We would have lost 70-0 if we played Oregon last night. OSU's night was almost as bad as ours, but they scored points, sooo....

buckeyejonross

September 7th, 2014 at 12:00 PM ^

Sparty had it the worst. I knew in the deep recesses of my soul the season was over when it tore its labrum. Michigan fans had some cautious optimism, but probably knew deep in their soul this was a lot like the team that struggled last year. Sparty on the other hand spent all off season talking shit and acting like they belong in the national spotlight now and they got their teeth kicked down their throat in front of anyone. It's 1000 times worse to lose when your team is probably good than it is to lose when your team probably sucks anyway (you and us!). Sorry Sparty. Oregon is good, but Sparty sure doesn't play D like they did last year. Reality check.


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Maximinus Thrax

September 7th, 2014 at 12:50 PM ^

Gotta agree with you, Jon.  Michigan's loss was probably the most humiliating of the day (between MSU, OSU, and M), but Sparty's national aspirations for this season just took a huge hit.  B1G is still wide open for everybody theoretically, but a seat at the four team playoff table is probably not in the cards for any team in the B1G at this point.  I feel that we (M fans) as a fanbase are mostly realistic, or at least as much as is possible in college fandom.  We had an idea that our team had some issues, just not any idea how severe they were until last night.  Sparty fans on the other hand were so blinded by the once in a generation Rose Bowl win that they failed to rationally assess their team's weaknesses in any way.  While we definitely looked worse yesterday, it should be Sparty who is most disillusioned today.

buckeyejonross

September 7th, 2014 at 1:39 PM ^

Totally agreed. Failing with expectations and aspirations is worse than failing when everyone already wrote you off anyway. OSU looked pathetic on offense and mediocre on defense and Michigan looked pathetic everywhere, but MSU now has to rationalize blowing their best chance at a recent national title to Notre Dame because their coach botched the QB situation for 15 straight games, and now a year later, it's all gone. You're back to being MSU again.


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UMMAN83

September 7th, 2014 at 12:02 PM ^

the program is not developing & improving year to year and game to game.   Issues are not addressed.  We continue to let teams exploit our weaknessses without adjustment.  I have little faith the balance of the year will get any better.  I'm sure his presser on Monday will clear things up.  Our captains (oopps no captains) better hold this together or this team will be fractured beyond repair going into Game 3.  Going back under my covers.

atom evolootion

September 7th, 2014 at 12:11 PM ^

Isn't Perdue a company that specializes in poultry products? On the sports networks today, Michigan is the equivalent of Kevin Hart's "You gon' learn today!" and the B1G is the rest of the routine... Michigan is the biggest joke of the comedy show. Having to hear Lou "Sylvester, the Cat" Holtz's repeated references to how bad Michigan sucks makes me want to stand in front of an eighteen-wheeler...

flashOverride

September 7th, 2014 at 3:00 PM ^

Is this seriously a question? Michigan State played a National Championship contender on the road and lost decisively but by absolutely no means badly. They're going to crush the rest of their schedule and whichever West Division team meets them in Indy and still possibly back into a playoff spot. They are a complete team without real deficiencies, they just came up short in a tough environment. I would say they almost certainly win that game if it's in East Lansing.

Ohio State, I don't know what the hell is going on with their defense, but Braxton Miller probably turns that game into a W. That simple. I thought they were a tad overrated anyway and wouldn't be winning the B1G because they had to travel to MSU, but it's not like they're a tire fire. Urban Meyer will make a solid QB of Barrett by November, just in time to kick Michigan's ass I'm sure. They're not elite this year, but they'll be fine.

Michigan was fucking humiliated. The star linebacker and leader of the defense is not the same in the new scheme. The D-line has turned out to be overhyped yet again. The O-line is every bit the catastrophe it was feared to be. We are probably looking at a kicker becoming a head case which carries a good chance of costing the team a close game at some point down the road. Hoke is in his fourth year, with elite talent on both sides of the ball, and just showed AGAIN that he doesn't know how to turn that into results. I have very much been on the "Cut the guy some slack, give him some time, be patient" train this whole time. Through 27 for 27 in Happy Valley, 29-6 in East Lansing, the Nebraska disaster, the goddamn boneless chicken wings bowl, I've said, "Just wait, you will soon be very pleased." Not anymore. Last night changed it for me. Hoke simply isn't the guy. And it sucks, because I really want him to succeed. Not just because I want my team to win, but because he genuinely seems like a good guy and I know how much he loves Michigan. But, to paraphrase Denis Leary, "I wanted to play centerfield for the Red Sox. Life sucks, get a fucking helmet!". If you're not qualified, you're not qualified, and I'm no longer convinced Hoke is. He's a great football coach from mid-January to mid-August, a recruiter and a program builder and a molder of stand-up young men, and yes that's a huge part of being a football coach (although his handling of the Gibbons situation leads me to wonder if I was even right about him on that count). But he just doesn't have the "actual football season" part. He is not a general, a tactician and maker of critical decisions and someone who has his troops ready for battle, at least not enough for this size of a stage. Last night finally convinced me of that, and I feel it's nearing time for Michigan to part ways with Mr Hoke.

tl;dr - OSU and MSU had hiccups and I have every reason to believe they'll bounce back and be fine.There are 128 teams in FBS and they're just not the best ones. Michigan has the symptoms of a chronic illness that I've seen too many damn times in the previous two seasons to convince me it's just a hiccup. And I now have every reason to fear this season will be a disaster.