OT: Columbus MLS fans welcome new team
This image was created and shared by @MassiveCityFFC, a supporters group for the Crew of Columbus, OH. Atlanta has just been awarded an MLS expansion franchise and the Crew supporters decided to welcome them to the league with a historical burn (bad pun intended).
Depite the fact that this comes from Columbus, I find it hilarious.
The picture was preceded by a comment about the SEC, meaning that this jab at ATL and the south was college football related #B1G
It doesn't even exist yet and I already hate the SEC of @MLS.
— MassiveCity (@MassiveCityFFC) April 16, 2014
The Crew have a very vociferous fanbase. It's a great city for soccer.
Dos a cero
April 18th, 2014 at 12:56 AM ^
Verily, dos a cero.
On a related note I am in awe that Detroit cannot get a MLS franchise with our ethnic makeup. Having grown up playing club soccer this is a very fertile place for youth soccer AND has so many ethnic groups steeped in soccer tradition from their home countries that would be interested in soccer, you'd think they could get a 17-20K stadium 70% full. Granted no one has stepped up to build said stadium but in Livonia/Plymouth/Canton area which is a hotbed for soccer you'd think it would be a no brainer.
I'm not surprised. Youth soccer participation does not necessarily result in an increase of interested soccer spectators. And while Michigan is multi-ethnic, it is hardly high on that list.
Detroit Metro is not a growth area right now, and while it is a great sports city the fans are fans of some of the longest-tenured franchises in their respective sports, franchises that are part of the long-term fabric of the community. A soccer team will neither have that nor a hungry sport fanbase eagerly awaiting a soccer team to cheer.
Now, years ago I liked this idea, and I thought they could repurpose Tiger Stadium for Soccer, but there just isn't the demand. Detroit is the wrong profile.
Detroit has 4 pro-teams already. An MLS team would make it five.
Columbus just has the two other pro-teams.
Cmon guys - I am not comparing Detroit to Columbus. MLS has about 20 (?) franchises. I would hazard a guess that Detroit is one of the few large metro area that does not have one. Forget "Detroit" and its shrinking city - our metro area is still 14th in the country. And it is one of the most diverse groups of people - you go to a Meijer where I grew up and you hear 5-6 languages in the store in 10 minutes. (southern Macomb county). I've visited places like Raleigh and its basically white/Asian so until you leave metro Detroit you don't realize how ethnically diverse it is - Italians, Polish, various Arabic, a host of eastern european, etc.
So Kansas City can support it ... because they don't have hockey/basketball to draw away crowds? They have 2M people, we have 4.2M people and I bet detroit has far more peeps from the "old country" than Kansas City. There are only 17 metro areas over 3M.
Does detroit have an incredibly rich owner interested in anchoring an ownership group? Do they have a NASL team that has had solid support? Are there plans for a new stadium that directly includes soccer and the MSL as part of its plans? Is the region already covered by another team?
These are all considerations, its not just about straight market size because the MLS expansion has been smarter than that, as far as I know Detroit has none of those things and they are all major factors for MLS, especially the rich owner and stadium part.
I was just really going for the "other two" pro-teams bit. You know, the Blue Jackets and Ohio State.
The Silverdome owners pitched a 25K stadium on the old Wayne County jail site to the MLS last summer, but that proved too risky. This year Dan Duggan, owner of the Michigan Bucks, is starting a USL team which has been the first step for many cities to get moved up into the MLS. The Seattles Sounders for example. Many articles here to read up.
Not many modern military campaigns have ever been quite as brutally effective as that MFer. That man understood how to win/end a war.
I see this argument a lot, and it has merit. But if you look at the 1863-64 campaign, Sherman's main asset was his brilliant understanding of the role of logistics in warfare (and the fact that Johnston fell for pretty obvious flanking maneuvers all the way from Chattanooga to Pace's Ferry, before being relieved of command).
Sherman definitely understood that breaking the South's will was important (just as Lee understood that had the CFA been successful in Gettysburg, this would have been a big psychological blow to the US). But Sherman's management of his own supply lines, and his disruption of Johnston's, really seemed to be the primary advantage the US had in achieving the March to the Sea.
For all of this, Atlanta is a great place for an MLS team. Huge population of soccer fans, and a good climate for the MLS season.
that Sherman's policies and actual effect weren't as bad as people seem to think. I wish I could find the source for this, but it is a pretty interesting and effective argument. Source [from an Ohio State guy, conveniently]. Of course, they were even less kind to South Carolina, so this argument has its limits.
Ohio doesn't do much right, but this is great. I work in Lancaster, Sherman's birthplace. Phil Sheridan is from right down the road in Somerset too (he did similar work to Sherman through the Shenandoah Valley). We know how to raise pissed off generals around here!
William Tecumseh Sherman has shown up on mgoblog. I can now die a happy man.
I hope your defense is as good as your charges.
"...should I be forced to resort to assault, or the slower and surer process of starvation, I shall then feel justified in resorting to the harshest measures, and shall make little effort to restrain my army—burning to avenge the national wrong..."
Read more at http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/w/williamtec190612.html#s0Fg6R0wzcYG1JLO.99
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"Every attempt to make war easy and safe will result in humiliation and disaster."
That was well done.
Shermanator troll is awesome!
Columbus is a great soccer city, I have been a season ticket holder since they built the new stadium. Only professional franchise to win a chmapionship from the city. Dare to be Massive.
Atlanta was burned to the ground. I don't see anything amusing about this at all.
Well that's what you get when you try him with a sorry ass government like the Confederacy.
amusing...
I live in Atlanta too and I've always thought "Atlanta Flames" was one of the worst team names. Why name a sports team after a tragic event? There's no "Boston Massacres" nor a team named the "Fukashima Tsunamis".
Although, now that I think of it, the "Chicago Mrs. O'Leary's Cows" might be cool.
But well done, Columbus Crew dudes.
William Tecumseh Sherman. Born Feb. 8, 1820 in Lancaster, OH according to my infallible sources on the interwebs.
War is hell. True that, General.
Also found this quote which sounds like it could have come from Bo or Lloyd:
...and loved it. As a Philly season ticket holder, I can't wait to start painting "Union Army" tifo.
Were there a lot of USA fans there or something?
TIp your waitresses
... this is an advantage the small guy has over the incumbents. I couldn't imagine the NFL or other established league (or team within the league) getting away with this without there being some lame ass fall out and boycott mumbo jumbo. Small guys can take chances like this, and it's awesome.
I teach history and I love this.
Atlanta guy here who will soon be an MLS season ticket holder. I thought this was hilarious!