OT: Reggie Bush goes in on Mark Emmert
These are pretty strong words.
I've never had much of an opinion on Reggie Bush, but it's hard to argue with him here. Seeing as how the rules under which he was punished (for the horrific and unconscionable act of engaging in commerce) have since been struck down by SCOTUS as a blatant violation of antitrust law (in a 9-0 ruling, no less), it should probably be Emmert and the NCAA who are put on the defensive now, not Reggie. They should reinstate his Heisman.
I wonder why the NCAA has gone quiet on me? They had a lot to say last year. These are some pretty serious allegations. Don’t run now Mark, the party is just getting started! Mark Emmert is liar, a conman, a thief, but most importantly he is a coward. Hello Heisman Trust 👋🏾 pic.twitter.com/O8JNzm3EOt
— Reggie Bush (@ReggieBush) December 20, 2022
December 20th, 2022 at 6:46 PM ^
Reggie Bush is the best college player I've ever seen in person
December 20th, 2022 at 7:21 PM ^
Did you ever see Nick Eddy? He was the best to me.
December 20th, 2022 at 8:52 PM ^
Nick Eddy? Good lord you’re as old as I am, if not older.
December 20th, 2022 at 10:02 PM ^
I see your Nick Eddy and raise you a Nick Pietrosante.
December 20th, 2022 at 7:31 PM ^
I'm going with Barry Sanders followed by Vince Young.
December 20th, 2022 at 7:54 PM ^
Seeing both of those in person must have been awesome
December 20th, 2022 at 7:55 PM ^
I saw Randy Moss in the first motor city bowl. He takes the title for me.
December 20th, 2022 at 8:18 PM ^
And my axe!
December 20th, 2022 at 9:01 PM ^
I was dancing with a girl at the Wild Dog one night and went to get a drink and when I came back she was dancing with Randy Moss. What could I do 🤷🤷
December 20th, 2022 at 9:33 PM ^
You should have tapped her on the shoulder, cut in and danced with him.
December 21st, 2022 at 2:28 AM ^
You were Mossed?
December 21st, 2022 at 8:00 AM ^
I was at that game. I remember on the first play of the game, my cousin pointed at Randy Moss and said “they have single coverage on Randy M…...” Before he could even finish the sentence………touchdown.
December 21st, 2022 at 12:23 PM ^
Same situation with Denard. Talking to my brother during the western game and told him he was supposedly the fastest player on the team and he runs for a touchdown.
December 20th, 2022 at 9:07 PM ^
Thanks for taking me waaaaaay down a rabbit hole trying to think who is the best college player I've ever seen in person. I'll be back eventually.
December 20th, 2022 at 10:18 PM ^
I’d go with one of the following:
- Charles Woodson
- Tyrone Wheatley
- Denard Robinson
- Chris Spielman
December 21st, 2022 at 4:56 AM ^
Your best ever list has a definite theme 🤣
December 20th, 2022 at 6:47 PM ^
He ain’t wrong.
December 20th, 2022 at 10:23 PM ^
He is wrong and no one cares about his selfish wining. There are millions of things to care about in this world. Who cares about his cheating and Heisman gripes. If the guy had one ounce of integrity he would drop his whining and maybe do something worthwhile with his blow-horn. Like donate to the OSU freshman striken with cancer.
He broke the rules as they were when he played and he was penalized for it. Now he wants the new rules to apply to him (which with NIL there are some but the NCAA has no hope of policing all the crazy number of infractions). What an idiot argument Bush has. It’s almost Hershel Walker level dumb logic.
Edit: His argument is that he wants the new rules to apply to him. But it turns out the benefits he received from a wanna be agent have nothing to do with the rules that changed and are still a violation.
December 20th, 2022 at 10:37 PM ^
The rules didn’t just change. The rules were illegal and unconstitutional.
December 21st, 2022 at 12:50 AM ^
Get your facts straight and stop reading surface level shared facebook posts.
What was unconstitutional was a player’s ability to profit off of his or her name or likeness and that the NCAA can’t limit the educational benefits provided by a university. It is still against the rules for a player to accept benefits from an agent which is what Bush did. It is also against the rules for any kind of compensation to be tied to attending a certain school which Bush did not do but which is out of control now.
The fact that NIL limits were unconstitutional doesn’t mean they were not well intended to create an equal playing field. Similarly, laws passed by congress (or court opinions from SCOTUS) that have been in place for many years but then later overturned does not mean you can reapply the new ruling retroactively. People have to be able to act under a current set of rules. Your argument would suggest that we can go back a prosecute people retroactively under a new SCOTUS ruling. That’s absurd.
Further, it absolutely should be against the rules for a player to negotiate NIL before he enrolls. The long-standing NCAA rules were designed, in the case of NIL poorly, to create an even playing field across all schools for recruiting, coaching, and training and to allow college athletes to also be students. NIL without limits and enforcement has destroyed that.
December 21st, 2022 at 1:09 AM ^
So I guess Fred Korematsu's refusal to comply with FDR's Japanese internment order during WWII was wrong until his conviction was finally overturned in 2018 (!). Good to know.
December 21st, 2022 at 1:41 AM ^
Sure, and Germans who worked at concentration camps under 1940 German laws should be and are held accountable.
But are you really going to compare Korematsu or any number of crimes against humanity to Bush and his selfish egotistical BS? Give us a break.
December 21st, 2022 at 6:33 AM ^
Best "user name checks out" that I've ever seen.
December 21st, 2022 at 8:22 AM ^
John Candy would never!
December 21st, 2022 at 8:47 AM ^
While I sort of agree with your follow the rules in place point - Bush’s main complaint should always be Cam Newton. The same rules didn’t apply to Cam, and therefore Reggie should have his Heisman reinstated.
December 21st, 2022 at 5:00 AM ^
He's mad at the wrong person. The Heisman trust doesn't have to follow suit with the NCAA. I don't like Reggie Bush, so phuck him and Pete Carroll
December 20th, 2022 at 6:49 PM ^
Saw him at August (restaurant) in NO when he was dating KK. With client who insisted she go over and interact with him. I was mortified, but she did, and he and KK were immensely gracious. Cool story, bro.
December 20th, 2022 at 8:20 PM ^
Idk about Reggie, but my lone interaction with Kim was solid. About a year ago in Palm Springs. I’ve heard the same from some coworkers who once ran in the same circles as her a decade ago.
December 20th, 2022 at 8:23 PM ^
The Client was she? Or was there another she?
I remember one of the late-night shows had KK (pre-hype and most of the surgeries, I think) and introduced her as Reggie Bush's girlfriend. I still remember those butts. Hoo Baby!!
December 20th, 2022 at 6:49 PM ^
Good for Reggie and good to see another exploitative American institution exposed. Still a shame that the obvious takes so long for some to see.
December 20th, 2022 at 6:50 PM ^
OJ still has his Heisman
December 20th, 2022 at 6:54 PM ^
I think he went to prison for trying to steal it back in an armed robbery.
December 20th, 2022 at 7:01 PM ^
That was actually an unrelated crime.
December 20th, 2022 at 7:00 PM ^
Fred Goldman has OJ’s Heisman.
December 20th, 2022 at 7:31 PM ^
side note but OJ hasn’t paid shit from the civil suit.
December 20th, 2022 at 7:23 PM ^
But OJ was the only portrait not exhibited at the downtown athletic club
December 20th, 2022 at 6:51 PM ^
You took money. You cheated. You weren't the only one. You're mad you got called out. Oh well
December 20th, 2022 at 7:02 PM ^
USC wasn't clean, and neither was Reggie.
I'm quite certain that Vince Young wasn't either.
They were also generational college football players that produced perhaps the best two-man Heisman race in the history of the award and faced off in what is probably the best college football game ever played at the conclusion of an epic season (remember, the Bush Push and "touchdown Manningham" were two moments that would be the national highlight of most seasons and happened at literally *the same moment in time*).
Reggie is the only player to have his Heisman arbitrarily taken away. It doesn't matter to me; he is the Heisman winner for that year. But it matters to him. And, while he did indeed participate in disqualifying behavior, so did a lot of other Heisman winners. I'm a pretty black-and-white right-and-wrong person, but the trite arbitrariness of enforcement has resembled justice or fairness or "rightness" to me.
I don't know the backstory on the Emmert stuff and can't comment on it. His tweet doesn't come off that well to me. But he deserves to receive into his possession the Heisman Trophy he earned on the field.
December 21st, 2022 at 9:11 AM ^
Touchdown Manningham happened probably 15-30 minutes before the Bush Push. I watched TD Manningham from Section 24. By the time I got to the Grey Lot (the parking lot that surrounds the baseball field and Yost), I was walking by a post-game tailgate in the Grey Lot, I watched the final USC drive, which culminated with the Bush Push.
Given my disdain for ND at the time, and lack of insight into the rampant cheating at USC, I was delighted with the two game results I had just witnessed.
December 20th, 2022 at 7:04 PM ^
Lie and cheat and reward is fox sports. Hi Urban
December 20th, 2022 at 7:42 PM ^
This is a silly take. How did taking something from an agent impact anything on the field? He was already at USC.
December 20th, 2022 at 9:32 PM ^
The money gave him super strength, just like Popeye's spinach.
December 20th, 2022 at 8:12 PM ^
I hope you dont want the Fab Five banners put back up then.
December 20th, 2022 at 10:50 PM ^
Agreed. Put the banners back up and give Reggie his Wendy's sponsored Heisman trophy.
Jesus Christ, if the rules were followed no SEC Team wins the NC the last 30 years.
December 20th, 2022 at 6:59 PM ^
Emmett looks like Newt Gingrich
December 20th, 2022 at 10:41 PM ^
I read this as WTF happened to Emmett Smith? Oh, Mark Emmert. Carry on, nothing to see here. Not pedantry, just legit confusion in a smallbrain.
December 20th, 2022 at 7:00 PM ^
Why should they reinstate it? He knew the rules, and chose to break the rules. Just because the rules are different now, they should be retroactively applied?
December 20th, 2022 at 7:19 PM ^
The rules aren't just "different now". If the NCAA had changed its rules of its own volition, then you might have a point. But the rules under which he was punished were definitively determined to have been an illegal exploitative regime under federal law. It's Emmert and the NCAA who have some explaining to do, not Bush.
And in any case, the "you knew the rules, you did it anyway" argument is even more devastating to the NCAA than it is to Bush. The NCAA knew antitrust law. Their own lawyers warned them that their rules violated antitrust law. They kept the rules in place anyway. And now that they've been benchslapped, the ire that was directed at an those athletes who accepted "impermissible benefits" ought to be directed at the NCAA.
December 20th, 2022 at 8:07 PM ^
I’m typically a lurker here and rarely post or reply. But your take on this is 100% spot on
December 20th, 2022 at 8:31 PM ^
Jameis Winston is the real victim here. He plead guilty to stealing to avoid the NCAAs wrath for impermissible free crab legs.