Michigan Insider Podcast: Newsome to TE coach, Jay to defense

Submitted by SanDiegoWolverine on February 8th, 2022 at 2:22 AM

I was listening to the free insider podcast with Zach Shaw and Steve Lorentz and they dropped the nugget that Grant Newsome was moving from analyst to TE coach and Jay was moving to the defense. They were quite positive about the moves and spoke of them as some deals.

Had anyone heard this reported anywhere else? What position would be available for Jay to coach on D? Hope he holds onto coaching special teams, that wasn't mentioned.

jdib

February 8th, 2022 at 5:52 AM ^

Yeah, I have more optimism for the offense with at least Weiss and Harbaugh being familiar with each other.  A big name hire would have been nice on that end but our offense last year looked fairly good toward the end of the year and not shaking up that dynamic might be best.

Defensively, however, yeah...  Jay has done a good job with every positional group he's worked with but I am a bit skeptical.  Already going to struggle without Hutch and Ojabo wreaking havoc.  I hope to God our secondary takes a step up this year..

lhglrkwg

February 8th, 2022 at 12:10 PM ^

Sure, but one has to wonder why the offense suddenly seemed to click last year. Was it Gattis' year 3 that finally came together? Or was it the addition of Weiss, Hart, and the promotion of Moore to co-OC?

The fact that Gattis is departing pissed off and nobody else on offense is suggests to me what the feeling within Schembechler might be...

Gentleman Squirrels

February 8th, 2022 at 6:05 AM ^

This is besides the point but I would be very interested in Jay as a future coordinator the next time we have an opening. If he is moving to the defense, this would be 3 different positions that he would be coaching, giving him a solid understanding of both offensive and defensive schemes. And as a coach he was decent as a RB coach and pretty good as a TE coach. It always seems like he’s left each position better than he found it at least. Pretty good recruiter too.

Optimism Attache

February 8th, 2022 at 6:34 AM ^

I have confidence Jay will do fine coaching D, because he has a good track record. At the same time, agree with you that at some point he needs to look around for other opportunities to establish himself in a program not run by his dad. Now, perhaps he has tried to do that and the stigma of nepotism, despite being unjustified in this case, has kept him relegated to Michigan. The Harbaugh name itself opens a lot of doors, so if he really tries to move on I am pretty sure he could get a job somewhere. Maybe more of a lateral move to start, but he's gotta look at the long game. 

1VaBlue1

February 8th, 2022 at 8:13 AM ^

He is currently a coordinator at Michigan.  Yeah, ST is maybe a step below OC or DC, but it's still a position requiring the management of 30-some athletes and staff, all with different needs, abilities, and characteristics.  It still requires strategy and tactics.  Far more than either OC or DC, it requires a level of inter-staff coordination and deal making to get good players and time for them to practice.  And, by any account, he's been the most successful ST coordinator Ann Arbor has seen in decades.

But I do agree, and have said so many times, that he needs to step outside the family to make his own name.  The Brian Ferentz analogy is spot on...

lhglrkwg

February 8th, 2022 at 6:23 AM ^

Newsome to TE is fine. He was a OT and is reportedly a really smart guy so that's a good entry job for him. Jay to the defense is underwhelming but he's done fairly well everywhere else thus far so I'll withhold judgement for now

chunkums

February 8th, 2022 at 7:11 AM ^

Sounds good to me. Jay has been excellent everywhere he has coached.  I'm looking forward to him recruiting a bunch of elite safeties. Also, it's worth noting that if Minter is the guy, he is currently the DC/safeties coach at Vandy. Jay would have some help.

BroadneckBlue21

February 8th, 2022 at 9:01 AM ^

There’s a reason Harbaugh hires analysts just like Bama, now. Analysts are off-field coaches, not some schmucks. Bama has often hired their replacements from their analysts. It’s weird that folks just want “names,” and act like Harbaugh has no eye for talent. Position coaches have a benefit of getting to focus on technique and placement for just a few guys—a few spots. What do you know about Jay’s overall knowledge? His work ethic? I’m pretty sure he can handle 95% of a position coach job at the highest level (off field development stuff, recruiting, basic drills, basic assignments). If he didn’t have acumen, he wouldn’t be there. 

Shanahan, McKay…two very young guys whose last names helped them move quickly up ladders. But there’s no way any of these guys last and do well unless they are actually very good at what they do.

As for what position folks played…Bellamy brought both his experience as a WR and his HC acumen to the defensive backfield last year. Gattis is the opposite. 

The smarter a guy is at the sport, shouldn’t matter where he played or if he played. 

These posts are redundant every year. Man gossip.

MrWoodson

February 8th, 2022 at 8:26 AM ^

Clink's background is secondary, so if he gets the DC job he could easily take Jay under his wing and help him. Maybe similar if Minter gets the DC job. His background is coaching safeties. I think for continuity, esp considering the past month, I'd rather see Clinkscale get promoted. Maybe you could even throw a bunch of money at Minter and get him to come over as a position coach. If not, you go get someone else to help with the secondary.

HC: Jim Harbaugh

OC/QB: Weiss

Co-OC/OL: Moore

RB: Hart

WR: Bellamy

TE: Newsome

DC: Clinkscale

Co-DC/DL: Ellston

LB: Helow

S/ST: Jay Harbaugh

CB: ??

1VaBlue1

February 8th, 2022 at 8:17 AM ^

I can't believe all the doubt that Jaybaugh still gets from Michigan fans.  Have the last 7 years of unquestioned success at every position he's coached really not convinced people, yet?  He's proven his worth many times over, and has earned the benefit of doubt.

Dude can coach.

MightyMatt13

February 8th, 2022 at 8:39 AM ^

Blessing and a curse to sharing the name as the guy in charge! You get the opportunity, but you also get little respect.

It's a strange sport where nepotism is pretty much accepted everywhere with good and bad results. All things point up for Jay, he'll get an opportunity one day to step out of the shadow and I'm confident he'll prove his worth. 

Booted Blue in PA

February 8th, 2022 at 8:28 AM ^

Rumor has it young Jack Harbaugh is being considered for ball boy..... the nepotism is egregious!

 

FFS.... Jay has been a great assistant coach with every assignment he's been given.   There are a lot of contributors here that are quite 'underwhelming'.

s1105615

February 8th, 2022 at 9:11 AM ^

At this point Jay will have coached at least one position group in each of the 3 phases.  I can’t imagine there will be another HC candidate more qualified than Jay after he gets his first Coordinator gig (assuming he’s successful with it).  
Since Jay has been successful in every role he’s been placed, it’s hard not to recognize that he has acumen and talent.  He also has the luxury of several other football minds in his family.  The fact his dad is the HC may have gotten him his first job with the team, but he certainly has excelled in every role since then.  Kudos to Jay.  

ak47

February 8th, 2022 at 9:26 AM ^

I’d prefer not to experiment and find out how is he coaching on the defensive side for the first time in charge of an extremely young group whose success or failure could define the defense and pretty much the season. 
 

And I’d say that if we were randomly switching Moore to linebackers too

bronxblue

February 8th, 2022 at 10:48 AM ^

Ron Bellamy was a HS coach who played WR in college and was a first-year safeties coach last year and it all worked out.  The idea that Michigan is "experimenting" with Jay Harbaugh because he hasn't explicitly coached on defense before but has been coaching for years now is a bit reductive.

Blueisgood

February 8th, 2022 at 9:27 AM ^

Half of the M fan base: " Mike Hart should be a frontrunner to be the head coach". The other half and quite possibly the same half: " Jay needs to leave Jim's shadow and be a coordinator at a different school."   

What in the actual fuck. I'm not saying Jay should be a OC or DC, but at the same time, what makes Mike better then Jay. Mike's not a Harbaugh? And I'm also not saying Mike isn't or shouldn't be a headcoach, but shouldn't he leave and get some head coaching experience before being anointed head coach here? Or at least be a coordinator somewhere. 

bighouseinmate

February 8th, 2022 at 9:29 AM ^

The constant call by some here for “home run” hires from outside the program are tedious. Sometimes hiring from outside is a necessity and hiring established coaches a preferred choice, but when you have young, smart coaches and assistants within a program, especially ones who’ve shown they can coach no matter what role they get moved to, then looking outside for the “home run” hire is stupid, IMO.