Scott Frost live PC
https://twitter.com/i/broadcasts/1OyKAgOjoPDJb
Frost says NU will lose 80-120 million if no football is played. Lincoln will lose $300 million.
Frost is asked whether or not Nebraska would pursue games outside Big Ten structure.
"We want to play no matter who it is or where it is...I think we're prepared to look for other options."
Frost seems bullish on playing this fall.
"The longer you keep a business shut down, the harder it is to open."
Nebraska laying the groundwork for pursuing its own path, if necessary.
Frost: Nebraska could be ready in a week to play a football game.
Frost said Nebraska had "one of the most passionate and energetic practices I've been a part of" Monday.
Frost understands the economics well. Says NU could lose 80-120 million, then have to carry 105-120 scholarships for years due to eligibility issues. Said jobs would be lost, jobs would be cut.
August 10th, 2020 at 10:53 PM ^
Maybe skip Braveheart the next 3 times it's on, eh
August 10th, 2020 at 3:55 PM ^
and they will outhit anyone they play....
August 10th, 2020 at 3:56 PM ^
Wasn't he there with Lawrence Phillips and Christian Peter? I think he's used to winning at all costs.
August 10th, 2020 at 3:56 PM ^
Can we play them week after week?
August 10th, 2020 at 3:57 PM ^
So it *is* a business...
August 10th, 2020 at 4:06 PM ^
BTW, this "the city will lose $xx million" is why the Sturgis rally is happening right now.
August 10th, 2020 at 4:54 PM ^
That and the fact the Sturgis rally is a great example of externalizing the risk -- if people come to your town for a few days, stay at hotel rooms & buy a lot of beer at parties, catch the virus and leave, well that is Missouri / Illinois / Indiana / Michigan / etc's problem!
If/when they get sick, they'll do it at home, not in Sturgis. So it's a win for them and a lose for everyone else.
August 10th, 2020 at 4:13 PM ^
"The longer you keep a business shut down, the harder it is to open."
The difference is most "businesses" are paying its employees to risk their lives to keep the business open.
August 10th, 2020 at 4:19 PM ^
Are you over 70 year age? Otherwise, do you shelter in place during the flu season?
Infection fatality rate for ppl under 70 is 0.04% which is less than or equal to the annual seasonal flu
August 10th, 2020 at 5:03 PM ^
Name the last time 160k Americans died from the Flu in one year. What's that, you can't? Then maybe you should STFU.
CDC estimates 12 - 60k Americans die from the flu. Most models predict we will lose 300k Americans by December, so in less than a full year we will have lost 5X the number of the more deadly flu seasons and that is given all the closures, mask wearing and other precautions we have taken (half-hearted as they have been).
August 10th, 2020 at 5:10 PM ^
People risk their lives every day to keep business open. The risks are often very small, and usually very familiar, but are there all the same.
August 10th, 2020 at 4:16 PM ^
Makes some great points, and I am no fan of Frost. If there is a will there is a way. Will be interesting to see how this plays out if Iowa and Nebraska can schedule enough games to make it worthwhile. Also if the B1G does have a spring season will Nebraska and Iowa participate and play even more games on top of the games they are able to schedule this fall? I do not see our conditions greatly improving in the spring since the vaccine will not suddenly fix everything at 50% efficacy and less then 40% even willing to take a shot.
August 10th, 2020 at 4:17 PM ^
It seems a lot of comments on here may be discounting the cultural differences between Lincoln and A2. I was in Nebraska yesterday and a majority of folks were not wearing masks and almost seemed bothered that I was.
I think there would be pretty tremendous support for football even if it meant going outside the conference. The administration may not want to play, but they also might not be willing to spend the political capital to cancel the season.
August 10th, 2020 at 10:58 PM ^
You've got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know... morons.
August 10th, 2020 at 4:24 PM ^
The longer people keep dying, the more people that end up dead, Scott.
Your playground game is not worth killing people over. We already tried the "money comes first" thing in Texas, Arizona, Alabama, Georgia, and Florida. That turns out to actually not end up being less costly.
August 10th, 2020 at 6:58 PM ^
actually if you add up all those states death they still don't even equal New York despite the fact that nearly 10 times the population. The death rates in those states are miniscule.
August 11th, 2020 at 8:10 AM ^
LV- people are uncomfortable with facts that challenge their narrative.
August 10th, 2020 at 4:30 PM ^
They were never a good fit for the B1G culturally or academically.
Say what you will about Rutger and Maryland geographically and competitively lacking, but at least they passed the academic eye test. And while OSU football don’t play school, at least their student body tries to.
August 10th, 2020 at 4:38 PM ^
uh not sure about Rutger
August 10th, 2020 at 7:10 PM ^
Nebraska is the only school in the B1G outside the top 100 rankings in the US News and World Reports rankings at #139. They are a definite outlier.
MSU is 2nd worst at #84, LOL!
Rutger is actually middling at #62.
UM is 2nd to Northwestern. #25 and #9 respectively.
August 11th, 2020 at 5:34 AM ^
US News and World report rankings are the McDonald's cheeseburger of rankings.
The best for academic rankings are Times Higher Education and QS.
QS World University Ranking has (along with Stanford and Berkeley for comparison):
#2, Stanford
#21, Michigan
#29, Northwestern
#30, Berkeley
#65, Wisconsin
#82, Illinois
#101, Penn State
#108, Ohio State
#109, Purdue
#152, Maryland
#157, Michigan State
#177, Minnesota
#258, Rutgers
#320, Indiana
#420, Iowa
#561, Nebraska
August 10th, 2020 at 4:39 PM ^
Scott Frost is not in the AAC anymore. No one gives two shits what he thinks. That may be his play though trying to get out of the B1G in which he will NEVER compete for dick.
August 10th, 2020 at 4:52 PM ^
I feel bad for the players who are trying to prove themselves to get that NFL money. Think if Joe Burrow couldn't play last season. He maybe wouldn't have even been drafted? Quick google search found an old article saying he has to potential to go day 3. This last season has probably made him hundreds of millions of future dollars. I wonder who that guy could have been in this season that won't happen.
August 10th, 2020 at 7:02 PM ^
Jason Whitlock told a story about a month ago how if it was not for how well he played his senior season of high school he likely would have never gotten a scholarship to play football and his entire life would be different. He said at the time him and his dad were living in a 600 square foot apartment.
You are right many people not even football players desperately need society to return to normal. Every decision every person makes involves analyzing the risk behind it. This is no different and for many it's well worth it.
August 11th, 2020 at 5:41 AM ^
What morons would downvote the above post, which is just stating some facts?
August 10th, 2020 at 5:01 PM ^
Hold on a second. Nebraska still has a football team?
August 10th, 2020 at 5:13 PM ^
Since some are so into percentages while bodies pile up with still no plan implement for control, here is one I bet is 100%:
When I read comments talking about accepting the risk in the name of our viewing entertainment, it's someone who was against the kind of hard, disciplined work to control the pandemic done by other countries.
In all honesty with the rampant tragic mess this country has become, you can take your death percentages and hospitalization rates and go flush them down with this football season.
Those arguments ignore reality. Just more of segments of the population trying to fib our way around the united hard work we refused to do. Acting normal instead of focused effort to actually get close to normal.
Frost proves himself just another member of that crowd that bucked what needed to be done.
August 10th, 2020 at 5:22 PM ^
So if we dispose of the data and rates for some reason... where does that leave us? How do we know when we have accomplished what we set out to do with respect to the virus? What will be “safe enough” to play football, go indoors without a mask?
Do we use some benchmark like the common flu? If the virus doesn’t scare us as much as the flu then it’s okay? If we feel like we’ve done enough then it’s okay?
Im not trying to be a PITA, but I’m wondering if we do set the data and rates aside as I think you suggested, how do we confidently move past this?
I’be seen others say too: “spare me the latest data bc there are these still anecdotes” but this is a slippery slope. There were plenty of folks back in March sharing anecdotes like “the virus wasn’t so bad for me” while we thought the IFR was in the 3-5% range. I’m starting to see the conversations go full circle now and just trying to understand
August 10th, 2020 at 7:10 PM ^
Just curious but what becomes a safe rate for you considering were close to 99.7% overall in most healthy people it's 99.9?
Also what is the actual plan for the future considering the odds are stacked against noticeably improving on those numbers. it's never going to be 100 pct.
Wee need today and find a way to live with this cuz it's more than likely not going to change other than more people are going to get it and hopefully the antibodies last a long long time. I know Sweden was ridiculed by a lot of people early on but they're down to like one death a day now. No mask and no stopping of the economy. Like it or not but this is likely the way this ends up as a vaccine is not going to make much of a difference from 99.7 survival rate standpoint. That's just the harsh reality
August 10th, 2020 at 8:05 PM ^
Does it ever make you feel bad to cram that many lies into a post?
August 10th, 2020 at 5:16 PM ^
Scott Frost is right, in that this is a "business." Pay the guys who are risking infection and serious complication and put them in a bubble.
August 10th, 2020 at 5:19 PM ^
Although it is absolutely the right call to 86 the season I think it is important to at least take a moment to assess the real costs of doing so.
Regardless of Frost's or other #WeWantToPlay players' motivations, there is going to be a huge financial hit to local businesses that we may never fully wrap our arms around. Ann Arbor is diversified enough that it might survive this more or less intact, but what about - spitballing here - College Station TX or other smaller college towns where football Saturdays are over 3/4 the economy? And on a smaller scale, even if they're kids who don't play for our team, can you imagine how gutting it is for them to have the craft they'd spent thousands of hours on being yanked away? Even or especially the ones that were responsible about training and practicing in the hopes there *might* be a season? You have to feel for them. (Except Jakub Panasiuk - fuck that choad and I'd be OK having MSU@UM be the one game that gets played so our O-Line can take turns pancaking his face into the turf)
All that said, it really really sucks that the season is likely being cancelled. And it's fair to point out that the people most affected have many legitimate reasons for trying to cobble football together. But to me that should underscore the costs we're paying because of our failure to manage the COVID pandemic. The fact that cancelling something so quintessential to our DNA was even on the table, let alone acted upon, should reinforce to all of us that this is Not Normal and we're all going to have to rethink a lot of things to get back to life as we know it.
August 10th, 2020 at 10:33 PM ^
I think everyone agrees the stands should not be full during a game. If that is the case, all of the restaurants, hotels, stores which normally would see the benefit of a game will not see the benefit anyway.
Say 20,000 people are allowed in the stadium. The priority will go to students. If they pack a large chunk of the student body into the stadium, they will not want large numbers of non-students interacting with the students. So again, this is a path where even with games played in front of people the restaurants, hotels and stores would not benefit.
The financial loss for the communities is going to happen no matter what at this point.
August 10th, 2020 at 5:33 PM ^
Could be different in Nebraska, but I don't think Scott Frost decides.
August 10th, 2020 at 5:39 PM ^
The fact that Scott Frost is taking this position is all you need to know. He's a Scott.
And he's making a bogus argument, suggesting that this will somehow kill Nebraska football. Classic scare tactic. Deeply dishonest. What a tool.
August 10th, 2020 at 7:14 PM ^
Not Nebraska football but many of the things the school offers
August 10th, 2020 at 5:42 PM ^
Gee could it be the massive self-interest he has in the revenue and likely couldn’t make 10% of his current income without college football?
August 10th, 2020 at 6:41 PM ^
yeah!
August 10th, 2020 at 7:11 PM ^
The B1G owns their tv rights...they wouldn’t make a dime if they played elsewhere.
August 10th, 2020 at 7:24 PM ^
Hey college football players, the ding dong who looks like Breaking Bad nazi just laid out exactly what you're worth if you do a bit of math off those grosses so ya know, get to negotiating. He also explicitly called it a business, in case anyone was wondering what college athletics is in 2020.
Bless your beautiful dumbass mouth, Scott Frost.
August 10th, 2020 at 7:48 PM ^
Well he hasn't really done a very good job there so far, so let's cut his and his staff and hire a new one once football is ready to happen. That should free up some cash.
August 11th, 2020 at 2:12 PM ^
We're now quoting Scott Frost favorably on something. Anything. That shows desperation.