Dantonio Calls State a Destination
I think he would jump to Texas quickly if they came offering $6M-$7M a year. It seems there was a coach that used it as a stop and went on to big things.
When asked about the Texas job:
"I see Michigan State as a destination, not a stop," Dantonio said. "That's how I see it. Flattering, but that's how I see it."
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/sbnation/SBNation_20131218_Coach_sh…
December 18th, 2013 at 2:16 PM ^
Genuine question: Wouldn't we be cutting MSU down if that were the case? I don't get the sense that MSU fans spent a lot of time complimenting Michigan in, say, 2006.
I don't see anything wrong with giving credit where it's due. I think it would speak poorly of us if we didn't.
December 18th, 2013 at 3:19 PM ^
Brother Syndrome. The symptoms are much different that LBS but equally if not more troubling. The ailment common on this Board and with a lot of Michigan fans is an intense need to compliment and applaud Michigan State and their fans over and over again as though seeking acceptance from some club that they badly want in on. Yes, it is OK to give credit. But this is not a Michigan State blog and this post is just no longer relevant to the subject matter of this particular blog. OT would be appropriate.
December 19th, 2013 at 1:36 AM ^
ONTOPIC Anything Michigan sports related Anything related to other Big Ten teams or upcoming opponents Stuff about the blog itself University of Michigan topics that don't relate to sports
December 18th, 2013 at 2:16 PM ^
Michigan State is absolutely not a destination job. Dantonio has done an admirable job. They will always be in contention with him there, but that is it. MSU doesn't have the history, resources, fertile recruiting grounds, or stellar academics to be considered a destination job. They don't have any of those things and it requires a combination of all to some degree to make it a destination job.
December 18th, 2013 at 6:03 PM ^
That may be the case, but there aren't very many college jobs that are better than MSU across the board. No more than 8-10 nationally. Given that Dantonio is in his late 50's, his experience and recruiting ties are almost entirely limited to the midwest, and he's built a consistent winner at MSU, I can see how he would consider MSU a destination. The only job he might leave for is OSU, and that job isn't likely to open up anytime soon.
December 18th, 2013 at 2:23 PM ^
Lets say B.O.B. leaves PSU for whatever job. Does Penn State give Dantonio a call? I have to imagine they do. And if that happens I think Sparty is looking for a new head coach, destination or not. Lies, Mark. LIES!
December 18th, 2013 at 2:47 PM ^
December 18th, 2013 at 8:06 PM ^
Just a word of advice: don't bet your savings account on that proposition. Direct Intra-conference moves by head coaches are very rare.
December 18th, 2013 at 2:25 PM ^
December 18th, 2013 at 3:44 PM ^
December 18th, 2013 at 4:30 PM ^
I earned my high horse after four years in Ann Arbor and its hanging on the wall of my corner office behind my desk son. The greenies may have our number in football and basketball, but academics......never happen.
Perhaps you're on the wrong board.
December 18th, 2013 at 10:23 PM ^
December 18th, 2013 at 5:58 PM ^
December 18th, 2013 at 2:59 PM ^
lay in the weeds in the Texas prairie just as easily as in E. Lansing?
December 18th, 2013 at 2:49 PM ^
he can call it whatever the fuck he wants and Michigan fans should shut up about it.
December 18th, 2013 at 2:54 PM ^
but then again i have no friends
December 18th, 2013 at 3:05 PM ^
Dantonio's comments are coachspeak for, "I will move as soon as I get the right offer, but don't lowball me."
December 18th, 2013 at 3:08 PM ^
He was pissed when Martin didnt offer him job when Carr consistently lost to his mentor Tressel.
He would have taken the OSU job if offered, instead they gave it to Meyer.
At this point, I doubt he takes another job.
December 18th, 2013 at 4:02 PM ^
Dantonio was hired by MSU on November 27, 2006. Even if Carr decided to retire at the end of the 2006 season Dantonio would have already been in East Lansing. So there wasn't really a chance of us getting him.
December 18th, 2013 at 5:28 PM ^
Carr was set to retire in 2005 or 2006, two years earlier than he did. Martin made him stay on another two years.... . do your homework on this, unlike this Frank Murphy guy.
December 18th, 2013 at 8:00 PM ^
Where have you heard that Carr was set to retire after 2005? I have heard numerous accounts of him being set to retire after 2006 though.
December 18th, 2013 at 4:30 PM ^
What? Are you an idiot?
December 18th, 2013 at 5:29 PM ^
Facts are difficult things to knock...... if you look into it, you'll know that I'm right.
December 18th, 2013 at 8:10 PM ^
I'd like to see your evidence that Mark Dantonio ever expected to be hired as HC by Michigan.
December 18th, 2013 at 3:09 PM ^
Boise State had the same or higher levels of success for the same amount of time as MSU; are they a destination school? Alabama was as bad as Michigan for a while, did they lose destination status? Being a "destination" school is about more than your most recent four-year record. Does MSU pay top dollar for their coaches and assistants? Do they have state-of-the-art facilities?
Dantonio is on a nice run, but do it consistently over the next 10 years before you want to look at it being a top-level program. Don't forget that they have to start playing OSU and Penn State every year, and probably one of Wisconsin or Nebraska to make it out of the B1G from now on. They can't hide from the best in the conference any more.
December 18th, 2013 at 3:09 PM ^
December 18th, 2013 at 3:13 PM ^
I can see Dantonio staying at MSU because he seems like the kind of person who doesn't want the pressure of coaching at somewhere like Texas.
December 18th, 2013 at 4:44 PM ^
December 18th, 2013 at 3:25 PM ^
Dantonio just had chicken soup for lunch.
He declared it a "destination meal" not just something you have before eating something better.
Michigan fans around the world heard these words and shuddered.
December 18th, 2013 at 3:34 PM ^
Who cares where Dantonio's going or Narduzzi's going? We have a game next week. We have had more threads on MSU than our own team. So they are going to the Rose Bowl. Wisconsin did that three straight years and we didn't have a thread everyday. Who gives a flying shit about them. Focus on Michigan.
December 18th, 2013 at 3:37 PM ^
Dantonio leaving staying relates to Michigan football. Countless threads begging him to leave because Michigan fans have become big enough pussies that they think that we can never beat him while he's there have become annoying. Just start a thread when something actually happens.
December 18th, 2013 at 3:40 PM ^
Wow. You people sure do like to get worked up about Sparty news. That's what it is - news. And its appropriate Board material. That doesn't mean we need to spaz out and argue back and forth about whether we are "little brother" now and whether or not we should care. Its news that relates to Michigan football. Read it. Ignore it. Whatever. Just calm the fuck down.
December 18th, 2013 at 3:43 PM ^
We need to quit focusing on other schools.. We need to focus on how our Wolverines can win ball games.. not about "State" or Ohio. This team is in a crucial phase right now. Recruiting and those around us , yes are quite fascinating, but as Michigan fans, the most important thing is beating KSU on the 28th. One thing at a time and this program can and will be well on its way to the roses once again
December 18th, 2013 at 3:59 PM ^
Yeah, if we fans don't pull it together, the team is likely to lose. Quit starting extraneous threads! The team depends on it!
December 18th, 2013 at 8:14 PM ^
The only "we" who needs to concentrate on this are the coaches.
"We" fans don't mean jack shit regardless of how hard we "focus."
December 18th, 2013 at 3:51 PM ^
December 18th, 2013 at 4:01 PM ^
State doesn't sniff the top 20 and I'm probably missing some more obvious ones.
December 18th, 2013 at 4:11 PM ^
Depends on your background. A West Coast coach is probably going to put Washington above Auburn and Clemson. Same as a Midwest guy is going to put B1G teams higher on his list. I'd rather coach at Indiana than Cal. Minnesota than Washington State. etc.
December 18th, 2013 at 4:27 PM ^
How quickly things change
SC was a nothing job until Holtz/Spurrier got there. The mighty Sparky Woods and Brad Scott led the program in the 90s. Who? Yes exactly. They were basically Purdue. Stanford was a nothing job until Harbaugh got there. Bill Walsh had 1 good season there. Buddy Teevens, Walt Harris, Jack Elway, Paul Wiggin. This was a destination? Even Dennis Green was a .500 coach there. Funny you put those 2 school in the hat when many can say MSU was a nothing job until Dantonio got there. 10 years ago if you said SC or Stanford were above MSU in any way in terms of a football job you'd be laughed at - all 3 sucked.
And UCLA has been more or less mediocre for 2+ decades. USC was / is the dominant animal in that area. UCLA pops up into a Rose Bowl every so often but was a lot better program 30 years ago.
MSU is not a "destination" job for most coaches but for Mark "I fucking hate Michigan with every fiber in my soul" Dantonio it is. He will be to MSU what Bo was to us. Peope forget just how bad MSU was pre Dantonio. Saban had 1 very good year there really and then left, and after that they had twin nightmares in Williams and JL Smith. If Dantonio did nothing but beat UM 5 of 6 years and went 1-11 every year he'd have statues down the road built for him... but going to the Rose Bowl and putting up 11 win seasons over and over for a program where .500 used to be a "solid year"? Yes it's a desintation - he is their football Izzo. For a random coach anywhere else - nah. There are maybe 12-13 destination jobs IMO and the Big 10 has 2-4 depending on your views of PSU and Nebraska.
December 18th, 2013 at 4:28 PM ^
December 18th, 2013 at 5:34 PM ^
I agree with most of this. However, any coach who puts up 11+ wins 3 out of 4 seasons is doing a HELL of a job, no matter where they coach. Also, you nailed it when saying how Dantonio had to follow Williams/JLS--what a pair to draw to. In no way, shape or form did Hoke have that kind of mess to clean up.
December 18th, 2013 at 6:22 PM ^
December 18th, 2013 at 3:56 PM ^
College football changes extremely quickly. Auburn went from getting hammered by Bama and finishing well under .500 to beating Bama and going to the national championship game.
December 18th, 2013 at 4:04 PM ^
December 18th, 2013 at 4:17 PM ^
December 18th, 2013 at 4:17 PM ^
A port-a-potty is a destination if you have to go bad enough.
December 18th, 2013 at 5:16 PM ^
well, technically everyplace is a destination.
December 18th, 2013 at 5:28 PM ^
December 18th, 2013 at 5:39 PM ^