The Snowflake Thread: Coaching

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This thread will be your opportunity to discuss the coaching and your thoughts on in-game coaching decisions. 

Muttley

November 30th, 2013 at 4:38 PM ^

We should Brady Hoke for going 0-7 in 2004-2010 while Lloyd Carr and Rich Rodriguez were coaching.

Urban Meyer doesn't have to overcome the 2010 & 2011 recruiting vacuum that this staff is facing.

randyfloyd

November 30th, 2013 at 4:05 PM ^

Though I am glad that we didn't get blown out, the way that all Bucky fans and most of the media were predicting, this loss still pisses me off!!! I will now have to hear all the Bucky fans say, "Michigan really played well" and "Great Game", to which I will reply, "Not good enough" and "A loss to the Evil Empire is never good, let alone great".... "Fuck Ohio"!

Franz Schubert

November 30th, 2013 at 3:56 PM ^

They spiked the ball on 1st down when they had a timeout which is absolutely unforgivable! They came out in the same formation after the OSU timeout before the 2-point attempt??? Why have Gardner saddled in the pocket throwing to a 5'8 reciever when you can roll Gardner and have our 2 huge TE as options??? 

ChopBlock

November 30th, 2013 at 3:42 PM ^

Going for 2 was absolutely the right move. Statisitcally, it only lowers your odds by about 5% (45% conversion rate vs 50-50 in OT), and I think the game situation and the momentum swing the odds a lot more than 5%. Sucks it didn't work out, but absolutely the right move. 

ghost

November 30th, 2013 at 3:42 PM ^

Senior laden OSU team with 4 senior o-linemen barely escapes against our insanely young team.  I like Michigan's direction a hell of a lot more today than yesterday.  

If OSU plays Alabama or FSU they will be blown of the field.

CalifExile

November 30th, 2013 at 4:18 PM ^

Losing the linemen will slow them down for a few games. Then they'll have a Jr. returning as starter with a Sr. at the other OT. The C will bea Jr. One guard will be the guy who stepped in after the ejection (a Fr. this year). The other G is a question. They might move a 6-4, 308 pound backup OT over.

I'm sure they'll work it out.

ghost

November 30th, 2013 at 3:54 PM ^

Both safeties are seniors and Shazier may had to the NFL as well.  Others could follow.

Miller sounds like a guy who is leaving and really coming back to play behind a young o-line would be a big mistake for any QB.  And if he goes they have a huge whole at QB.

4 o-linemen plus Hyde is going to hurt a lot.

1 percent

November 30th, 2013 at 3:43 PM ^

Love going for 2. Would have liked a different play. No one on defense was to the left so an AJ Williams release could have been open.

Stopping the run, couldn't do it but the D played hard.

The offense, it's been dormant forever but man today it looked good.

Can we do a snowflakes on the couple WTF refs plays?

SDCran

November 30th, 2013 at 3:44 PM ^

Playing a true freshman LB in his first start against a great running game doesn't bode well.

Offensively, they did it all. OSU has a bad defense and Borges exploited it well.

Too bad our LBs were hurt and DG couldn't have a run/pass option on the final play.

thethirdcoast

November 30th, 2013 at 3:44 PM ^

...2 pt conversion I think Michigan's best option was tossing up a jump ball for Funchess in the corner of the endzone. Credit to OSU for completely sniffing out the final playcall and covering it well.

BlowGoo

November 30th, 2013 at 3:45 PM ^

Shape of good things to come. Hoke earns right to decide Borges' fate. But if he keeps Borges, must recognize his own future tied to Borges' future. But I won't automatically be upset if he keeps Borges.

GMHW2

November 30th, 2013 at 3:46 PM ^

Borges should still go. DB should can Hoke and try to trade up ONLY if the right guy is available. Otherwise, lock up this recruiting class and let Hoke stay another year. I can't complain much about the offensive calls, but I'm looking at the body of work here. Still proud of the effort out there.

LKLIII

November 30th, 2013 at 3:48 PM ^

Now that I'm over the initial shock, it wasn't a bad call. 1) He has little trust in Wile kicking the short field goals and extra points. The 1 point was not a gimme. 2) Even if he drilled it, we go into OT against an excellent offensive team, and a likely need to rely on some nervy field goals to survive. I don't blame Hoke for going bold here. Nobody can accuse him of simply being Lloyd Carr.

An Angelo's Addict

November 30th, 2013 at 3:51 PM ^

Great game overall. Only a couple of bad plays called by Borges today but obviously the question is where has this offense been the last 5 games. Absolutely agree with the decision to go for the 2 point conversion, there is no way we would have won in OT. Only real gripe was why we didn't come out with a different play/formation after OSU's timeout knowing that they would then be ready for that original call?

M-Dog

November 30th, 2013 at 4:04 PM ^

When Hoke and Borges don't get caught up in their own Dogma and just try to win the F'ing game with the weapons they have, they do all right.

It took an undefeated Ohio State game to get their attention, but maybe they can keep focused.

BlowGoo

November 30th, 2013 at 4:24 PM ^

Yes, I agree.  The fact is that when this organization (players, staff, front office, whatever) confronts a BIG game at the beginning and end of this season, they demonstrate an admirable focus that allows them to maximize their inherent strengths and minimize their inherent weaknesses.

 

This game clearly demonstrated this.

 

Now, if they just maintain that focus the entire season, THEN I think you have the confidence in execution that will allow them to not take the "play not to lose" move of burning the clock out at the end of the half.

funkywolve

November 30th, 2013 at 4:12 PM ^

If you're going to come out in the same formation, don't you at least have to have a surprise coming from it knowing that OSU just dialed up a defense to stop what they think you are going to run?

The one thing I will say is that Gallon and Dileo were really close to each other when the pass was thrown.  Wondering if one of them didn't run the correct route.

bostonsix

November 30th, 2013 at 3:52 PM ^

run the clock out before the half. we had plenty of time and a time out to atleast attempt a field goal. other than that the play calling was great.

GotBlueOnMyMind

November 30th, 2013 at 3:54 PM ^

Fact is, our staff outcoached OSU's. The difference is that they have Senior Carlos Hyde and Seniors all along the line, and they just imposed their will on our undersized front 7. However, this game definitely gives me more confidence in the coaching staff for the future, if they stay intact. Admittedly, still wouldn't be opposed to firing Borges, but hard to see that happening now. If only he could figure out how to consistently call games like this (of course, he was helped by the O-line playing much better than they were a few weeks ago)

westwardwolverine

November 30th, 2013 at 3:54 PM ^

One big complaint: Not trying to score before the half. I do not understand how the same guy who makes that decision then goes for it on fourth down twice and then for two in the second half. In a game like that, especially when you have nothing to lose, you do everything you can to win. Running out the clock after a first down with a timeout was the wrong move.