Michigan vs. Wisconsin B-Ball Snowflakes and Post Game Open Thread
Wisconsin I and Indiana II were disappointing ENDINGS. This was flat out a disappointing EFFORT.
(Slight Mod Edit - condensing snowflakes to one thread. This thread had more replies and discussion, but M-Wolverine won the "thread title" contest. LSA)
BOOM goes the dynamite!
You, sir, are an asshole.
You may question the defense, you may question plays, but you may not come here and spew ad hominems and otherwise unfounded personal accusations at a player.
The square of your point total deducted from the current total for two weeks...as a warning.
I think Belien is a good coach, just not elite, or at least not B1G elite. His teams simply are not physical, and they rebound poorly. Even when we have 3 very servicable big men and other great athletes, we fail to simply box out for a rebound. I hope they can fix this (reasonbly) for the tournament, or we just hit a hot streak shooting. That seems to be what Belien lives and dies by, 3 point hot streaks.
That being said....I am still excited about the tourny, and anything could happen. This is still the most talented team we have had since the mid-90's, probably the fab 5. Hopefully some tourny magic comes their way.
GO BLUE!
how a 6'9 center isn't going to just be more of the exact same
i think doyle could add more inside scoring, which this team lacks. but until we move to a 2 big system, i just don't think he'll be a change from jordan morgan
I think Belien is a good coach, just not elite, or at least not B1G elite.And yet, he's one layup (or a couple free throws) away from being a two-time defending Big Ten champion.
Even if we built the 15-20 halftime lead, doubt we would of held on to it. Yes, Wisc got hot and it seemed that everything they threw up went in, we continued to leave guy after guy open from 3 point range.
Terrible free throw shooting team......horrible rebounding team....mediocre defense....i guess we should be happy to be 26-7.....
March 15th, 2013 at 11:29 PM ^
The loss to Wisconsin sucks, but I feel like a 3rd loss to IU would have been a crushing blow to the confidence of this team. I honestly would have rather lost to Wisc than IU. I have no problem being a rested 3 seed over a tired 2 seed. Especially taking into account Hardaway's ankle and whatever the hell is wrong with Jordan Morgan. The freshmen all looked fatigued today ... especially the shooting of Staukas & Robinson. I think 5 or 6 days of rest is more important than an appearance in the semifinal and/or final of the Big Ten Tournament.
Here's a flake comin down; looks like it reads...oh, 23 of 57. Thats our FG%. 40%. Oh.
Wiscy's was even worse, at 38% (each team attempted 57 FG's), but they compensated with three's and free throws.
We were abysmal shooting today.
There is no dominant team or even power teams this year like last year's Kentucky. Moreso than usual it's all about matchups and peaking at the right time.
1) Unfortunately for us this team peaked early in the season and the Frosh and sophomores are running out of steam down the stretch.
2) Fortunately we probably won't have to see MSU, OSU, or Wisconsin until the elite eight. Those are horrible matchups for Michigan. Bruising, grinding, defensive teams...and athletic in the case of MSU and OSU. We are not a chuck and rebound team which is a disadvantage in a bruising conference like the Big 10.
The right draw in the tournament and this team can make a deep run. The wrong draw and we are out in the round of 32. Hopefully we get smaller, skilled, softer teams.
Indeed this team is probably too soft to win the championship, but a run to the FInal Four is not out of the question given the right draw.
If we can get to the sweet 16, this team met expectations set BEFORE the season began. It's a young team, bottom line. Everyone needs an offseason in the weightroom. I really think Burke leaving will force other players to step up offensively.
Wait...you don't mean...
this team was ranked #4 coming into the season. preseason expectations were final four, and elite eight at worse.
And most of us thought that was silly until at least January. And then a super young team struggled after they played more basketball than they have before and they had to go on the road. Surprise!
Team's talent is a little overrated. We played well and the media hype got us all excited thinking we had the 2012 Kentucky Wildcats roster full of talent, but the team isn't that talented. More talented than what we've seen here in a while, but not elite.
With a good draw, I still like our chances at a Final Four.
Doyle's just a HS junior, right?
Why won't GR3 pull the trigger on jump shots anymore? Seems like a total loss of confidence. I think his subtraction from the offense is part of the downfall the past 45 days.
Yes a very disappointing game. I wonder if they were looking ahead for a little revenge against the Losiers.
Now that Mattison is locked up for 3 years, can he assume a bench role as DC of the hoops squad? UM could be trendsetters.
I'm starting to think Belein doesn't allow contact at all or very little during his practices. We just aren't a tough team and let a totally unathletic Wisconsin team beat our asses up twice.
I hope not - I didn't see any penises tattooed on our chests.
We just watched a John Beilein team--he of the countless variety of continuity offensive sets--go through forty minutes of basketball with only one player having an assist. (Burke had 7, the other ten players had zero.)
That would be odd for any team; for Beilein it's almost unthinkable. The whole point of his offenses is that all five players are handling the ball on the perimeter.
Well, that's ordinarily the point. This year's team has gotten away from that a bit.
...over the last few weeks (in the losses, at least). That's how having a player with Burke's gifts on a young team can be a double-edged sword- the rest of the team falls back into letting Burke take over. Sure, you want a guy like him handling the ball, but a team like U-M that hasn't yet developed a really strong inside presence depends that much more on moving the ball around.
Why do we want Burke handling the ball all the time? On the rare occasions we actually run a set through instead of breaking it off, he looks pretty good coming off an off-ball screen. And our other guys can play a little too, if they ever get the chance.
There has to be some middle ground here, some way to mix it up. Guys as talented as Stauskas and Hardaway and GR3 shouldn't spend half a season standing in the corner watching the other two guys on the floor run ball screens.
The ball screens are great in moderation, and Burke's great to have when it gets late in the shot clock, but there has to be more.
I'm sure Beilein didn't want things to end up here, but I'm not sure he knows the way home with the little time we have left. There's an Iowa game in the not-so-distant past that makes me think he understood the dangers, though.
Oh, I'm not saying you want Burke handling the ball all of the time. Just the opposite. You do need to spread it around - and that's precisely the rub. Burke is so good with the ball that sometimes the rest of the team falls into this pattern of leaving it him to take over games. You can only do that so much.
Somebody call Rick Moranis and get JMo some damn Stickum. I haven't seen hands like that since Rashid "Hot Hands" Hanon.
1. McGary
2. Horford
3. Morgan
Why is he starting? He can't shoot, he can't rebound and he can't catch a pass.
His shooting percentage is better than the two guys you have ahead of him.
However that was based on the early part of the season. Down the stretch he has been an offensive liability. At the start of each half today he received a good pass and dropped them both. I just think at this point of the year, the other 2 are playing better than him right now.
How bizzaro that this board was proclaiming JMo the absolute key to this team 4 weeks ago when he was injured. Now it's the polar opposite. He's had a frustrating offensive stretch for sure, but some of the hate is mind-boggling.
Makes me a little nervous for next weekend's game. At least the other team will also be in a quick turnaround.