OSU-MSU developing into quite the rivalry.
First Dantonio complains about Meyer stealing Pittman and now they are upset over OSU not including shifts and motions in tape exchange.
http://twitter.com/ESPN_BigTen/status/252187594409009152
Hehe.
September 29th, 2012 at 9:59 PM ^
but tv would show any shifts or motions and they could just piece together that with the film they recieved
September 29th, 2012 at 10:05 PM ^
October 7th, 2012 at 9:34 AM ^
It wasn't Ohio's first game...just exchange with another team and get all of the information you need.
It's not that fucking hard. Quit bashing Meyer like he actually did something worth whining about.
September 29th, 2012 at 8:23 PM ^
is going to look like weak willies for complaining. Advantage Buckeyes.
September 29th, 2012 at 8:24 PM ^
Good. it would be nice if our rivals had another rival besides us. we play 3(for now) rivals every year.
September 29th, 2012 at 8:30 PM ^
September 29th, 2012 at 8:34 PM ^
Too bad they won't be playing each other again until 2015.
September 29th, 2012 at 8:42 PM ^
After this thread, I'm drinking.
September 29th, 2012 at 8:38 PM ^
You have got to be kidding me.
September 29th, 2012 at 8:49 PM ^
MSU OL Allen (#66) went for the ole eye gouge tonight. Classy.
September 29th, 2012 at 8:54 PM ^
Sparty gonna spart.
September 29th, 2012 at 9:10 PM ^
Surprise = 0
September 29th, 2012 at 11:00 PM ^
But in my 8 years of playing O-line, I at least learned 2 things: Lamar Woodley is not human, and there is an attempted eye gouge (or some sort of nefarious hands to the face action) between d and o lineman almost every other play. Unfortunately, if you wanted to spend an entire game looking for it, I'm sure you catch our lineman (most especially Lewan...) doing that a handful of times.
September 30th, 2012 at 11:20 AM ^
True, but after all the crap they pulled last year, and (going back to his days at Ohio) after Robert Reynolds choked the Wisconsin QB and their defenders repeatedly tried to roll Chris Perry's ankle after the play . . . it seems clear that Dantonio, at best, is willing to look the other way regarding dirty play.
September 29th, 2012 at 8:50 PM ^
September 29th, 2012 at 9:01 PM ^
It's the whole "full 22" tape, where you can see the WHOLE field and all the pass routes etc that are usually off the screen of the normal TV tape.
September 29th, 2012 at 8:50 PM ^
September 29th, 2012 at 8:59 PM ^
September 30th, 2012 at 12:24 AM ^
You all do yourselves a favor and watch the WVU vs Texas game next week. Texas has a widely recognized "good" defense that will get schooled by Geno Smith. Then you can sputter all your arena football talk all you want.
September 30th, 2012 at 7:44 AM ^
UT 49, WV 35.
September 29th, 2012 at 9:15 PM ^
Neither team would win more than 5 games in the SEC. Crap teams in a crap conference.
September 29th, 2012 at 9:33 PM ^
September 29th, 2012 at 9:44 PM ^
look like Tom Brady and Peyton Manning combined. They suck and suck hard.
The Zooker beat RGIII and Baylor 38-14 just two years ago.
September 29th, 2012 at 10:15 PM ^
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September 30th, 2012 at 7:41 AM ^
September 30th, 2012 at 12:15 AM ^
September 29th, 2012 at 8:53 PM ^
I am personally indifferent to OSU, except that I find many of their fans contemptible. I also generally don't like behemoths.
September 30th, 2012 at 1:24 AM ^
September 29th, 2012 at 8:53 PM ^
September 29th, 2012 at 9:11 PM ^
September 29th, 2012 at 9:12 PM ^
September 29th, 2012 at 9:12 PM ^
September 29th, 2012 at 9:06 PM ^
This is actually exactly the sort of thing that is worthy of complaining about, rather than recruiting things and stuff like that. OSU had more tape available to them than MSU did, giving OSU an advantage. We would be displeased if the same thing happened to us. Dantonio isn't whining, he's just informing the league office of the discrepancy.
September 29th, 2012 at 9:09 PM ^
At the same time, how do we know that MSU hasn't done this exact same things to other teams and they just haven't publically complained about it. I dunno, if you're relying on the other team to supply information for your gameplanning, shouldn't you expect this kind of thing?
September 29th, 2012 at 9:21 PM ^
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but I was under the impression that tape sharing was mandatory in the Big Ten and therefore the standard means by which coaches gameplan. Hence MSU contacting the league office (which I'm assuming wouldn't happen if this were simply a gentlemen's agreement type complaint).
September 29th, 2012 at 9:41 PM ^
You could very well be correct. I had no idea they did tape sharing in the first place. Also, couldn't they tell if it was edited?
September 29th, 2012 at 10:04 PM ^
September 29th, 2012 at 9:15 PM ^
You write exceptionally well for an owl.
September 29th, 2012 at 9:14 PM ^
Dantonio should try coaching Sarcastoball instead.
September 29th, 2012 at 9:40 PM ^
Someone watched their South Park...
September 29th, 2012 at 10:34 PM ^
September 29th, 2012 at 9:18 PM ^
Maybe I'm missing something, but don't teams often save certain plays/formations for important games?
September 29th, 2012 at 9:28 PM ^
if you're "practicing" things only, and haven't pulled it out for a game, then it's something you're holding back and there wouldn't be any disclosure of it, but that's different than GAME footage. If you've used it in a game and you've agreed to provide an opponent with your footage of that game, you can't edit out certain things. It's an all or nothing deal... and it's dumb to even try. GA's will review the TV footage too, along with the tape the oppenent sends. They'll notice when they're missing things.
September 29th, 2012 at 9:43 PM ^
OK, makes sense. Why didn't he bring this up before, though? Why mention it after the fact?
September 29th, 2012 at 9:49 PM ^
who knows... he may have said something to OSU bofore hand and nothing happened, they may have some explanation, maybe it's only just now making it's way to the press. A coach is not going to hold a press conference BEFORE the game to announce that the oppenent is playing fast and loose with game tape, but after the game, and after a loss, sure, he'll mention it then... plus, that's kind of Dantonio's style. "I'm not sayin', I'm just sayin'." Hoke probably would let it go and deal with it coach to coach with no mention of it to the press. Dantonio, as we know, has "his own way" of dealing with things.
September 29th, 2012 at 10:53 PM ^
September 29th, 2012 at 9:45 PM ^
Thanks for the clarification. Still surprised, then, that the coaches wouldn't have noticed the lack of footage for those shifts beforehand.
September 29th, 2012 at 9:56 PM ^
September 29th, 2012 at 9:19 PM ^
Maybe we should be thanking Dantonio, since I have a feeling that our OSU film will have all of the shifts and motion on there this year.