NFG

September 29th, 2012 at 8:42 PM ^

Isn't the point of having assistants, coordinators and a half time provide you the assets to adjust to motions and shifts???

After this thread, I'm drinking.

JHendo

September 29th, 2012 at 11:00 PM ^

But in my 8 years of playing O-line, I at least learned 2 things:  Lamar Woodley is not human, and there is an attempted eye gouge (or some sort of nefarious hands to the face action) between d and o lineman almost every other play. Unfortunately, if you wanted to spend an entire game looking for it, I'm sure you catch  our lineman (most especially Lewan...) doing that a handful of times.

snarling wolverine

September 30th, 2012 at 11:20 AM ^

True, but after all the crap they pulled last year, and (going back to his days at Ohio) after Robert Reynolds choked the Wisconsin QB and their defenders repeatedly tried to roll Chris Perry's ankle after the play . . . it seems clear that Dantonio, at best, is willing to look the other way regarding dirty play.

TXmaizeNblue

September 30th, 2012 at 12:24 AM ^

how people determine to dismiss greatness because it completely outshines what they are so personally invested in..(in this case a crappy ass conference)..

You all do yourselves a favor and watch the WVU vs Texas game next week. Texas has a widely recognized "good" defense that will get schooled by Geno Smith. Then you can sputter all your arena football talk all you want.

TXmaizeNblue

September 30th, 2012 at 12:15 AM ^

MEDIA FED BULLSHIT!! Yeah, by the look of LSU's game against big Towson, Arkansas's loss to LM, your right the SEC is so scary. Alabama is all they have to boast of, but due to the power of suggestion - catapulted by brainless media talking heads, the SEC is the greatest thing since sliced bread. The Big 12 has far more more solid teams in it than the SEC this year. You can call WVU and Baylor arena football teams all you want - YET they'd kick the ass of any B1G team. There's not one B1G team that could stop WVU or Baylor's offense.

Owl

September 29th, 2012 at 9:06 PM ^

This is actually exactly the sort of thing that is worthy of complaining about, rather than recruiting things and stuff like that. OSU had more tape available to them than MSU did, giving OSU an advantage. We would be displeased if the same thing happened to us. Dantonio isn't whining, he's just informing the league office of the discrepancy.

Owl

September 29th, 2012 at 9:21 PM ^

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but I was under the impression that tape sharing was mandatory in the Big Ten and therefore the standard means by which coaches gameplan. Hence MSU contacting the league office (which I'm assuming wouldn't happen if this were simply a gentlemen's agreement type complaint).

Gitback

September 29th, 2012 at 9:28 PM ^

if you're "practicing" things only, and haven't pulled it out for a game, then it's something you're holding back and there wouldn't be any disclosure of it, but that's different than GAME footage.  If you've used it in a game and you've agreed to provide an opponent with your footage of that game, you can't edit out certain things.  It's an all or nothing deal... and it's dumb to even try. GA's will review the TV footage too, along with the tape the oppenent sends.  They'll notice when they're missing things.

Gitback

September 29th, 2012 at 9:49 PM ^

who knows... he may have said something to OSU bofore hand and nothing happened, they may have some explanation, maybe it's only just now making it's way to the press.  A coach is not going to hold a press conference BEFORE the game to announce that the oppenent is playing fast and loose with game tape, but after the game, and after a loss, sure, he'll mention it then... plus, that's kind of Dantonio's style.  "I'm not sayin', I'm just sayin'."  Hoke probably would let it go and deal with it coach to coach with no mention of it to the press.  Dantonio, as we know, has "his own way" of dealing with things.