Unpopular board topic: Your HC preference if Harbaugh returned to NFL
I can tell this will probably be downvoted because this board does not like unpopular or controversial topics. But just like the transgender topic yesterday I have faith this board can handle the discussion. I think most all of us would prefer that Jim stays. The rumors have swung wildly back and forth and I’m sure Jim is probably the only one who knows for sure, and maybe he is still deciding himself. But it’s certainly a very real possibility that he could leave. And I certainly hope that Manuel has a plan in place if that were to happen. If you choose not to deal in the hypothetical, that it totally fine. But for those who don’t mind, who would be your preference to get the first call? These are the names I have heard floated around through various outlets.
1. Luke Fickell/ 2. Dave Aranda: Probably the 2 most successful coaches that people think we should call. I see zero chance that Fickell would accept the job here, but I will include him because if I don’t, people will bring him up. Not sure on Aranda.
3. Josh Gattis: Broyles award winner, would be good for keeping things intact with what should be an exciting offense.
4 Mike Hart: Michigan legend and considered a bright young football mind. But he’s not even a coordinator and would he really jump over Gattis?
5. Bucs run game coordinator Harold Goodwin. Former UM lineman and respected enough to be the Bucs interim coach when Arians had Covid.
6. Bama OC Bill O’Brien. Hard pass for me but I’ve seen his name floated.
-So go ahead and rip this thread if you hate it, but I’m curious to know how people feel if we do find ourself looking for a new leader, which of course we hope we will not be.
January 12th, 2022 at 3:52 PM ^
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January 12th, 2022 at 8:23 PM ^
Final answer…
Nobody.
If Harb’s is done, so am I.
January 12th, 2022 at 8:35 PM ^
What about Good Shit Jedd? The guy comes up with good shit.
January 12th, 2022 at 3:52 PM ^
Really??? Why?
January 12th, 2022 at 3:55 PM ^
Why not? It’s a Michigan board where we discuss Michigan. We know that there’s a definite non-zero chance that he could decide to move on. If that were to happen I am genuinely curious about which direction people would want us to go.
January 12th, 2022 at 4:13 PM ^
Why not? Because the conversation is not ripe. Period. Full stop. It might never be ripe. All recent reports indicate Harbaugh isn't going anywhere. Could that change? Sure. If it does, we're all on notice you're prepared to discuss replacements. Cool.
I appreciate good, old fashioned speculation and intellectual masturbation as much as the next person, but this is different. Fergodsakes, Seth posted on the main page regarding this topic yesterday. The comments went for 3 pages. This adds nothing new other than some snowflake action. This post is as useful as sitting around the poker table with your dudes discussing the women you'd go after if your wife, who you are 100% committed to, were to leave you out of the blue (pun intended). Nothing good comes out of that conversation. Nothing good will come out of this thread. Generally speaking, nothing good comes out of conversations that are started on the premise that "there's a non-zero chance" of something happening.
This is an invitation to a fart fest, and I'm all farted out.
January 12th, 2022 at 10:43 PM ^
Is it really problematic if someone posts a topic about a timely what if scenario regarding UM football on a UM football board? There is an option to say “not interested in this topic” and keep scrolling. Maybe it’s just me but I can’t not roll my eyes at the crowd who rushes to shame the OP on half of the new threads. You do you tho.
January 13th, 2022 at 2:49 AM ^
The difference in up votes to down votes from the OP to this comment really does represent this board perfectly. We hate you post here take a downvote… 18 seconds later Well youve got a point here take an up vote. Wacky asses.
January 13th, 2022 at 9:17 AM ^
It’s the mob mentality of Mgoblog. Once the first downvote hits, it’s an avalanche. Oh well, still generated some good discussion in between all the sarcastic asses who never contribute anything other than complaining.
January 13th, 2022 at 8:43 PM ^
? Well said!
January 12th, 2022 at 3:53 PM ^
Is this a trick question? Myself, obviously.
January 12th, 2022 at 3:54 PM ^
I'd probably be done with Michigan football tbh. Two decades and not many wins against OSU. Finally beat them and coach leaves?
Besides, I'm not a fan of today's college football where everything is fixated on money.
January 12th, 2022 at 3:56 PM ^
Yeah, college football is only now fixated on money...
January 12th, 2022 at 3:57 PM ^
Fair enough, but it's inarguably worse now.
January 12th, 2022 at 4:00 PM ^
I would say it's extremely arguable
January 12th, 2022 at 4:06 PM ^
I'd argue it's only more visible now.
The above-board paying and the ability of players to transfer like coaches do doesn't really change the underlying reality of some of the negatives of the sport but rather just decreases our ability to ignore that reality
January 12th, 2022 at 3:57 PM ^
Fair enough, but it's inarguably worse now.
January 12th, 2022 at 4:03 PM ^
I would argue that it cannot be argued
January 12th, 2022 at 4:12 PM ^
There is a lot of arguing about this inarguable point...
January 12th, 2022 at 6:01 PM ^
It's been proven more this year than any.( tho its even true on down years) that Michigan brings Eye balls to the TV. I would argue that Indianapolis couldn't Handle the crowd if Michigan beats UGA.. IF it was Fixed by money, we'd be one happy fan base.
January 12th, 2022 at 3:54 PM ^
Nobody likes these conversations even when we do need to have them, and now isn't one of those times. At best, you are perpetuating a rumor that does nothing but discourage recruits. Not saying this isn't a fair topic to think about in your own head, but most of us don't want to extend public discussions on this.
January 12th, 2022 at 3:58 PM ^
Fair enough but I don’t really think that a discussion on Mgoblog is really going to do much to affect recruits. Jim himself can completely squash this with any recruit at any time if he so chooses.
January 12th, 2022 at 3:54 PM ^
Matt Campbell?
January 12th, 2022 at 5:53 PM ^
Yeah, I think he'd be my number 1. He or Aranda. I just can't imagine going after Fickell knowing OSU is the job he really wants. He'd either turn us down (embarrassing) or leave us later for OSU (embarrassing and damaging), right?
And after those two, I'd rather have PJ Fleck than take a chance on giving someone their first HC job.
January 12th, 2022 at 5:59 PM ^
Why not Jay Harbaugh? His uncle was a great special team coach and has done great. I think Jay will be a good HC.
January 12th, 2022 at 6:04 PM ^
He might be, but too risky to give him his first HC job at this level I think. Needs to work his way up the ladder like his pops.
January 12th, 2022 at 6:00 PM ^
Oops, double post
January 13th, 2022 at 3:13 PM ^
This was kinduva joke TBH.
January 12th, 2022 at 3:55 PM ^
Nice try, Warde. Do your job yourself!
January 12th, 2022 at 3:56 PM ^
Baseless, unnecessary speculation begets bullshit responses:
John Harbaugh, if only to prove his dominance once and for all, leaves the NFL and replaces Jim. He brings his entire staff from the Ravens and Ray Lewis runs the NIL program.
January 12th, 2022 at 4:07 PM ^
We can hope. Who knows whether John might be interested in the college game? Also avoids potential of a Harbaugh-bowl rematch
January 12th, 2022 at 4:14 PM ^
Any players not agreeing to Michigan's NIL terms would be chased down and knifed...
January 12th, 2022 at 5:29 PM ^
Was laughing until I read the Ray Lewis part and now I'm fully onboard for this.
January 12th, 2022 at 3:56 PM ^
1. Luke Fickell
2. Dave Aranda
3. Matt Ruhle
4. Matt Campbell
5. Gattis or Hart
January 12th, 2022 at 4:07 PM ^
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January 12th, 2022 at 4:20 PM ^
Fickell is trash.
Ruhle? Lol.
January 12th, 2022 at 5:33 PM ^
Wow. Awful take on both. Try again.
January 12th, 2022 at 5:08 PM ^
Still surprises me that anyone would suggest or want Fickell. Maybe you are trying to continue the trend of M coaches leaving for OSU though. If there is a current coach who bleeds more scarlet and gray than Fickell, let me know. I’m not advocating for another Michigan man, but anyone with such strong and loyal ties to OSU(and none to us)should never be considered.
January 12th, 2022 at 6:36 PM ^
Not saying we should hire Luke, but Bo Schembechler played for Woody Hayes and was on his coaching staff for 5 years.
January 12th, 2022 at 7:33 PM ^
Gary Moeller says “hi” as well
January 12th, 2022 at 3:58 PM ^
January 12th, 2022 at 3:58 PM ^
Whoever says Matt Campbell needs kicked in the shin, dude can't beat Iowa and is one of a short list of coaches who went from ranked top 10 to unranked. Hard pass on the soup!
I'd take Mike Hart or John Harbaugh
January 12th, 2022 at 4:05 PM ^
Whoever condemns a coach for one season, already fired Harbaugh last year and got Campbell.
January 12th, 2022 at 4:26 PM ^
I was in the Keep Harbaugh camp last year, he's the best thing for Michigan. Was in 2007, 2011 and now. I will condemn Campbell for this season considering he had quite a bit of talent returning and didn't do a lot with it and has never beat Iowa.
January 12th, 2022 at 4:54 PM ^
You bash Campbell then offer a guy who wouldn’t come here and you only named because his brother coaches/played here and a position coach that in no way would be considered if he didn’t play here. Worst take I have seen in years on this board.
January 12th, 2022 at 5:16 PM ^
TSimpson77 says that Mike Hart is a more reasonable candidate than Matt Campbell.
"T," whatever you think of Matt Campbell, that's a ridiculous take. Why should Hart be the head coach?
One thing you can't throw out: "He understands the rivalry." That's always a ridiculous idea, but if your reasoning is that poor you'd have to notice that he went 0-4 in "the rivalry" as a player so his "understanding" might be shaky.
January 12th, 2022 at 5:20 PM ^
WOW, what a year of change, Campbell's golden shine really faded to nothing. I didnt hear his name much, if at all, with all the openings this year.
January 12th, 2022 at 3:58 PM ^
Can’t embed, but I feel this is the appropriate response.
https://youtu.be/6fxOX5hrwtU
January 12th, 2022 at 5:15 PM ^
January 12th, 2022 at 3:59 PM ^
John Harbaugh