Reschke recruiting Dawson for MSU, Dawson doesn't notice.
I dislike Mark Snyder more than I dislike Rosenberg. I'm not sure why. I'm not sure it matters why. Probably because in my head, he's the guy wearing the black framed glasses drinking a PBR at the end of whatever bar is hipster this month.
But I'll still read his stuff in the off event that a useful tidbit of information will be hiding amongst the otherwise drivel-filled paragraphs. Today, he has two separate pieces that were terrible but did produce these quotes:
Jon Reshcke, on being a recruiting tool for MSU:
"I've still been recruiting guys, like (Cass Tech offensive guard) Dave Dawson, and it's actually helpful," he said. "You can tell guys we need you to step in and help us get a better record next year. It can work as an advantage."
David Dawson, on his recruitment status:
"Those are the three I'm listening to," he said Wednesday at the Free Press/National Football Foundation Dream Team banquet at the Dearborn Inn. "All three programs have a lot to offer, in football, academics, and Ohio State and Michigan are close to home. Alabama, that's a great program."
No mention of MSU, so Reschke may be more "helpful" if he were to focus on keeping the committed two stars in Dantonio's class rather than trying to attract new "elite" level talent.
Reschke story: http://www.freep.com/article/20121213/SPORTS07/312130307/michigan-state-jon-reschke?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|Sports
December 13th, 2012 at 11:56 AM ^
Outside of Tony Mandarich and Flozell Adams, MSU has done very little in the way of developing offensive linemen. Dawson would be much better off picking those other schools mentioned.
December 13th, 2012 at 12:05 PM ^
And Mandarich was roided up so that hardly counts.
December 13th, 2012 at 12:12 PM ^
Yer kiddin' me.
December 13th, 2012 at 12:47 PM ^
December 13th, 2012 at 11:59 AM ^
Once again, no elite talent will ever land at state in football. Ever. Period.
I think their highest ranked guy in years was Lawrence Thomas and he's not even playing the position he was a star at in HS. He's a FB now.
December 13th, 2012 at 12:02 PM ^
Aaron Burbridge? DeAnthony Arnett? Andrew Maxwell? Too many to count looking back through the years.
Shamone man.
December 13th, 2012 at 12:04 PM ^
maxwell elite?? How has that worked out so far?
December 13th, 2012 at 12:07 PM ^
You asked for ranked recruits and he was an elite 11.
December 13th, 2012 at 12:38 PM ^
December 13th, 2012 at 2:00 PM ^
Slightly smaller pool for him, he attended the sorting round (where you see 25 participants) and then he was actually chosen as one of the Elite 11. I would consider getting a guy chosen as an Elite 11 guy in any year to be an elite recruit, but I suppose it's your own judgement call as to where you cut off "elite" status.
December 13th, 2012 at 2:07 PM ^
December 13th, 2012 at 2:11 PM ^
Recruits don't pan out, that's life. Many of those guys played meaningful snaps, and you usually get one or two stars from that grouping each year. If you want a super accurate recruit ranking system you're not going to find it.
December 13th, 2012 at 3:22 PM ^
December 13th, 2012 at 3:32 PM ^
Which is why I said "it's your call about where you want to cut off 'elite' status."
December 13th, 2012 at 11:34 PM ^
I'm not exactly sure where that line is, but it's somewhere above Maxwell's head.
December 13th, 2012 at 3:08 PM ^
December 13th, 2012 at 4:13 PM ^
I don't know where the cutoff is, but ask Eli Manning and he'll sort it out for you.
December 13th, 2012 at 12:11 PM ^
That wasn't your argument.
December 13th, 2012 at 12:14 PM ^
Stop picking on the guy, he created the design for the Crisler Center banners. He's an Ann Arbor institution. Or he should be in an institution. Can't remember which. Fergodsakes.
December 13th, 2012 at 1:55 PM ^
once a guy has flamed out at another school you cant call him elite regardless of his initial rankings, so arnett doesnt count anymore
December 13th, 2012 at 2:30 PM ^
From MSU's official website:
2011 SEASON (TENNESSEE): True freshman played in all 12 games with one start (at Arkansas) . . . had 24 catches for 242 yards (10.1 average) and two TDs . . . was third on team in catches and fifth in receiving yards . . . his 24 catches tied for second most by a true freshman in UT history with William Howard (1984), only behind Kelley Washington's 64 in 2001 . . . his 242 yards are the sixth most by a true freshman in UT history . . . had three or more catches in six different games . . . had three catches for 20 yards at Kentucky . . . had an 8-yard catch at No. 8 Arkansas in first-career start . . . hauled in three receptions for 47 yards vs. Middle Tennessee State . . . produced three catches for career-high tying 59 yards vs. No. 14 South Carolina . . . had three receptions for 22 yards vs. Georgia . . . scored first two TDs of career on 13- and 8-yard receptions vs. Buffalo; finished with three catches for 27 yards . . . had a breakout game with eight receptions for 59 yards for first career catches at No. 16 Florida
December 13th, 2012 at 12:14 PM ^
December 13th, 2012 at 3:25 PM ^
He is at least more elite than elite 11 qb Joe Boisture was.
December 13th, 2012 at 12:04 PM ^
So you wouldn't want Burbridge? I'd like Burbridge. Also whether he turned out to be a self-pitying mediocre player or not, Gholston was a big deal at some point, you know.
BTW, Thomas is only a RS Freshman and moving back to the DLine. So it might be a bit premature to close the book on his career.
December 13th, 2012 at 12:36 PM ^
Hell, if Burbridge could've qualified academically, he'd be playing for Michigan right now. MSU was his second choice.
December 13th, 2012 at 12:38 PM ^
He could've....he did...we just didn't take that risk
December 13th, 2012 at 12:53 PM ^
he probably would have dropped out of michigan and i doubt he's doing well academically at state either. my brother was in high school with him and he was not an academically gifted individual
December 13th, 2012 at 1:31 PM ^
Let's assume he would have dropped out of Michigan because your high school aged brother didn't think he was smart.
Michigan didn't want to gamble on him qualifying and he qualified, its over. Don't throw out guesses on how he's doing at MSU because you're upset about that.
December 13th, 2012 at 1:52 PM ^
Yeah there are some not to bright and not hard working guys on the michigan football team too, you get a lot of help as a football player, its pretty tough to fail.
December 13th, 2012 at 1:53 PM ^
Tate Forcier, is that you?
December 13th, 2012 at 2:52 PM ^
A LOT of athletes are "not academically gifted"... relax. Those kids play for most schools across this country, including MSU, UM, OSU, Alabama, Indiana, and you name it (other than Northwestern and maybe Stanford).
December 13th, 2012 at 12:04 PM ^
There will always be a Charles Rogers here and there. He was the #1 overall recruit to ESPN (the only guys in the game) at the time, and though Michigan recruited him hard Saban made it clear the academic requirements for him in East Lansing would not be as burdensome. Saginaw, by the way, is a pretty pro-Sparty town. Getting Woodley out of there was a bit of a coup at the time, and involved getting Jerome Jackson first.
December 13th, 2012 at 12:17 PM ^
Bobby Williams signed Rogers, didn't he? Saban left in 1999.
December 14th, 2012 at 9:41 AM ^
Rogers is only a few days younger than my brother, who's a year younger than me. So my freshman year at Michigan (1998 football season) was when his recruitment was going on in earnest. However he had some academic troubles that held him back a year (today he would have been funneled to a military prep school) and that put him the top overall recruit in '99. Saban left before the bowl game at the end of '99, when Rogers wasn't on campus but had been building a relationship with Saban and to the Spartans for over a year. Then he had to sit out all of 2000 because he couldn't hack it as a student.
December 13th, 2012 at 12:25 PM ^
He was similarly one of, if not the top recruit in the country when he came out of high school.
December 13th, 2012 at 12:45 PM ^
Plaxico was pretty highly rated, too, and could be considered an elite talent imho.
December 13th, 2012 at 12:54 PM ^
December 14th, 2012 at 9:43 AM ^
Plaxico was a one-off JUCO and one of the driving forces behind the reforms that led to graduation success rate being a thing. MSU got to have him for a year, during which time he never went to class because LOL, and then went to the NFL before that could catch up with him. I remember thinking it horribly unfair that they got to do that.
December 13th, 2012 at 2:50 PM ^
December 13th, 2012 at 3:03 PM ^
The Dutch can smoke weed and speak four languages fluently. But maybe they're just cheating...
December 13th, 2012 at 10:07 PM ^
December 13th, 2012 at 12:42 PM ^
December 13th, 2012 at 12:46 PM ^
Your argument would work better if you were correct.
December 13th, 2012 at 1:58 PM ^
sure loves him some definitive statements.
December 14th, 2012 at 1:49 PM ^
They've been able to recruit some top talent historically; just not as much as other elite programs. Charles Rogers was a stud in HS, and they've had a fair number of 4* kids throughout the years. And sometimes elite HS talent doesn't pan out; I like kids like Campbell for being a good kid while at UM, but he's a recent 5* that failed to live up to the hype.
December 13th, 2012 at 12:00 PM ^
So Mark Snyder stole your glasses?
December 13th, 2012 at 12:01 PM ^
Indeed he did. That's why I'm pissed.
December 13th, 2012 at 12:28 PM ^
Butterfield has been wearing them since before they were cool
December 13th, 2012 at 12:34 PM ^
Likes Michigan, hates hipsters -- does not compute.
December 13th, 2012 at 1:13 PM ^
Not concerned with Reschke unless he comes to us or MSU recruiting in general. If Dawson missed us and comes back to UM then great, if not whatever.