Question About Game Thread and Post-Game Threads - Seeking Input/Opinions
Mates,
Looking for your opinions on two related items - game threads and the post-game threads. First has to do with the football game thread that Seth posts, and no, it's not about the content/complaining/ etc. It's about how large they get, especially for away games and/or more competitive games. In prior Mgoblog existence you could set your feed to have 300 posts per page and the program would remember it whenever you signed in. The present edition of mgoblog has a setting for 50 or 100 posts only, and as far as I know it won't remember if you choose 100. So when threads get to be many hundreds of posts long, 2,000+ posts when we beat ohio (The score was 42-27, in case you didn't know), the thread is so large that it becomes completely unwieldy to go back and have conversations on topics that come up, important plays, etc. So the first question is this:
1. Assuming Seth doesn't have an objection, which he might, would you prefer that the football game thread be split into a 'first half' and 'second half' threads? We do that with basketball threads frequently, generally smaller threads, but it seems to lend itself more to interaction and intelligent conversation beyond the typical 'Unacceptable!!'
Now topic #2, the post-game threads. LSA is nice enough to post the after-game threads and they get used pretty rigorously. However, we now get 4 separate post-game threads, and they stay up for quite a while. Meanwhile, there's only space for 7 topics at a time on the message board. With our frequent noon games in particular the plethora of pinned post-game threads means other worthwhile threads - for instance, the recurring 3:30 pm sparty beat-down threads, get pushed off the board very quickly. So the second set of questions is this:
1. Would you be in favor of less post-game pinned threads, such as combining 'Defense + Special Teams' in one, and "Coaching + Offense" in the other, thus leaving more room for other topics?
2. Regardless of your answer to #1, above, would you be in favor of the pinned post-game threads being pinned for less time, say, 2 or 3 hours post-game?
I look forward to reading your thoughts. Have a great Monday.
XM
October 3rd, 2022 at 10:22 AM ^
What? Tldr
October 3rd, 2022 at 10:26 AM ^
pretty simple: split the game thread or no?
less post-game threads and/or pinned for less time?
it might be easier for you if i'd posted it in a series of tweets, but i don't do the tweets.
October 3rd, 2022 at 10:30 AM ^
27 Tweets, to be exact.
October 3rd, 2022 at 12:11 PM ^
with 42 replies
October 3rd, 2022 at 12:12 PM ^
"Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn."
October 3rd, 2022 at 12:27 PM ^
so can we put you down as "M Indifferent"?
October 3rd, 2022 at 6:14 PM ^
I think you're good. EC is kinda the king of the shitposts. So something about optimizing content probably doesn't compute for them.
October 3rd, 2022 at 10:22 AM ^
I'll be honest with you, I never participate in "in game" threads. They just get a little too toxic for me. I find it better to take a breath and just enjoy the game.
October 3rd, 2022 at 10:28 AM ^
i'm with you on that as i am hit-or-miss on those, too. especially if things are going south i will avoid them altogether. but with things looking pretty good for us for the foreseeable future they are more fun to tag along with if you're not at the game or otherwise occupied.
October 3rd, 2022 at 10:38 AM ^
SUUUPER toxic. Those in game threads are a miserable existence even when we're up big. Like replies on Twitter threads, I generally try to stay away.
October 3rd, 2022 at 10:42 AM ^
I'll post, but generally prefer visiting the opposing team's game thread. Schadenfreude at its finest.
October 3rd, 2022 at 11:06 AM ^
They're awful. Occasionally I wade in if I've missed something, but otherwise forget it.
October 3rd, 2022 at 12:06 PM ^
This weekend people were complaining about JJ's missed deep ball and the decision to run a speed option for like the whole half
October 3rd, 2022 at 6:15 PM ^
I'll be honest with you, I never participate in "in game" threads. They just get a little too toxic for me. I find it better to take a breath and just enjoy the game.
Ditto.
I do get curious about takes *after* the game though.
Plus with in game thread(s) your comment scrolls onto the previous page in a matter of seconds; so the opportunities to chat with someone are limited at best.
October 3rd, 2022 at 10:28 AM ^
also, a follow-up.
because i am an egotistical maniac, i want to see how many people have liked my comment + who has responded. what's the easiest way to go straight to that comment on a 14-page thread?
October 3rd, 2022 at 10:35 AM ^
click the "Your active threads" link on top of page.
then click the "View" tab and it shows all your comments. can do this for any user and see what they're posting.
October 3rd, 2022 at 10:38 AM ^
Unfortunately, doing this on a thread where you've made multiple posts puts you at the top of the thread rather than on your post.
October 3rd, 2022 at 10:45 AM ^
huh .... i guess i rarely post more than once on a thread then
October 3rd, 2022 at 6:17 PM ^
The index and/or anchors still aren't working 100% as intended.
October 3rd, 2022 at 10:37 PM ^
On mobile this only works if my comment is on page 1. If it's on any other page it just takes me to the beginning of the comments section.
October 3rd, 2022 at 10:28 AM ^
I'm personally not finding it difficult to navigate.
Grateful that the site works. Official content and Board are both great right now.
These are the MGoGolden years.
October 3rd, 2022 at 10:29 AM ^
I dont participate much in the pre or post game threads, but agree that there is no need for 4 snowflakes threads.
I like your idea about combining threads. I would actually just keep O/D/ST one thread and then another for coaching. Either way would work, just no need for 4 of them.
Also, it does get annoying that I have to change the tab to 100 every time I log on.
October 3rd, 2022 at 10:57 AM ^
Co-sign this one. One for the teams performance and one for the coaching.
October 3rd, 2022 at 10:29 AM ^
Yes No No
October 3rd, 2022 at 10:30 AM ^
Not sure what you mean by “there's only space for 7 topics at a time on the message board”? I counted 33 on the first page after the pinned threads.
October 3rd, 2022 at 10:41 AM ^
The 'Message Board' quick links on the right side of the page when you're on a desktop.
October 3rd, 2022 at 11:02 AM ^
for instance, this is what you see now on the front page:
Question About Game Thread and Post-Game Threads - Seeking Input/Opinions
33 replies
OT: NDSU Bison use 4 fullbacks on rushing TD
13 replies
Michigan remains #4 in AP Poll
67 replies
JJ Leads Nation in Completion Percentage; Corum First in Rushing TDs
59 replies
Updated NCAA Football '22 Ratings + Depth Chart
6 replies
MSU is still blocking details of Mel Tucker’s $95 million guaranteed contract
95 replies
October 3rd, 2022 at 11:08 AM ^
OK, that did not occur to me since I always use the main "MGoBoard", and it has plenty of room (40 total to be exact).
October 3rd, 2022 at 10:33 AM ^
i avoid game threads, mostly because many mgobloggers seem to be incapable of having a good time during the game, regardless of the score.
but also because it's impossible to filter through the 1800 comments
yes on the two game threads (first and second half) ... i don't do the snowflake threads and don't mind they stay up as it keeps a lot of trash off the board.
October 3rd, 2022 at 10:33 AM ^
I agree with two of your three suggestions. The game thread should either have two halves or switch to an overflow thread at a certain comment threshold. And two postgame snowflakes threads (offense + coaching and defense + special teams) seem about right. That leaves a bit more space on the front page for other topics. However, the snowflakes threads should stay up for the rest of the day. If they fall off after two or three hours, they won't absorb all of the takes that would otherwise turn into special snowflake posts and the board will see even more churn that obscures otherwise relevant and interesting posts.
October 3rd, 2022 at 10:34 AM ^
Snowflake threads could go in diaries section, but it may defeat the point of people not posting random thoughts on the board.
October 3rd, 2022 at 10:35 AM ^
The post game snowflake threads were a response to the plethora of shit post hot takes after poor games during the 2020 season (I believe that's when they started). They're meant to contain all the hot-takeyness and keep the board uncluttered.
I will participate in the game thread, even if I try to stay away from shit-posts. They move too fast to have have 'conversations', though - aside from a single reply, or two. Each play is commented on, so you'll never keep up if you try to engage outside that. As far as splitting it, I don't really care. I think the two-thread thing for basketball started as an attempt to change some first half bad luck - and it worked! From then on, it was a thing.
I haven't ventured into a snowflake thread in two years, and I won't start now.
October 3rd, 2022 at 10:36 AM ^
I’d like post game injuries to be included. #2Cents
October 3rd, 2022 at 10:37 AM ^
Why are you of all people trying to make changes on format? You are lucky they let you back on here.
October 3rd, 2022 at 10:42 AM ^
Calm down, it is not like XM is asking for a kidney transplant.
October 3rd, 2022 at 10:56 AM ^
besides being wrong, i wonder what other calamities have crushed your life that make you this way? seriously, it has got to be a very heavy cross to bear. i've asked you before but you've never had the guts to answer. would love to hear it.
October 3rd, 2022 at 11:31 AM ^
Nah. Just have no use for a fraudulent P.O.S.
And how are you not lucky to be back on here? I read through the Mod action sticky when you got whacked. The decision makers were rightfully harsh. Too bad they softened up.
October 3rd, 2022 at 12:02 PM ^
as said below by another, what a posting history you have. so what gives? health issues? money or relationship issues? mental health and/or substance abuse issues? something (or a combination) is eating you up fiercely inside and it pours out here and maybe elsewhere. not healthy and it can't be pleasant, either.
you take care 1606.
October 3rd, 2022 at 2:36 PM ^
You acted as if you were a black man for at least a decade, and I am the one with issues.
October 3rd, 2022 at 5:39 PM ^
Never has he done anything of the sort.
Not on his previous account that he quit using a half dozen years ago, and not on his current XM account.
If you think you have proof otherwise, go ahead and post it.
October 3rd, 2022 at 1:04 PM ^
Dang 1606 “fraudulent P. O. S. “ ???
Xm and I are probably on opposite ends of many topics but I consider him a fine person and good friend. Been to his farm 2 or 3 times, shared a part of a meal with him in A2, gave his kids some bonus perks at Crisler along with some Swag, and text with him now and then over last 4 or so years.
As far as fraudulent… his backward skating and puck checking abilities might have diminished since we were on campus together, but he hasn’t laced em up when he’s down here.
October 4th, 2022 at 1:07 AM ^
Knowing a little bit about the guy, his personal and professional background and history? And knowing a few things about his family? I think you are genuinely *wrong* about the guy.
October 3rd, 2022 at 11:39 AM ^
quite the posting history ya got going there. lord.
my favorites are the "band nerd" shot at bando calrissian talking about how long harbaugh keeps starters in the game, and the "old people suck" shot at don because he isn't into pro wrestling.
October 3rd, 2022 at 12:19 PM ^
Some people grow out of using multiple accounts to troll others when they are teenagers. Some don't. I'd say it's an interesting question what drives this user's behavior... but that would be false. He isn't actually interesting at all.
October 3rd, 2022 at 10:37 AM ^
1. Splitting the game threads into first half and second half sounds reasonable.
2. I think the current post-game pinned threads work fine. Especially now that they are only pinned for 24 (or is it 36? 48?) hours.
3. The current duration of the pinning works fine. 2-3 hours would be way too short.
October 3rd, 2022 at 11:37 AM ^
I'd argue the time should be until Sunday 9am, no matter the end time of the game.
It shouldn't be above AP Poll posts, Lion's Game Thread, etc. if the game happened to be a night game.
October 3rd, 2022 at 10:40 AM ^
I generally do not jump into game day threads with regularity so it would not impact me.
As for Snowflakes, the most I'd want to see it condensed is Offense, Defense, Coaching/ST.
October 3rd, 2022 at 10:43 AM ^
Short answer, "yes" with an "if." Long answer, "no" with a "but."
October 3rd, 2022 at 10:43 AM ^
First...I think it is great to reach out to the board and get input better as it will make the user experience the best.
At risk of being a broken record, may I offer a suggestion that may help it all around? Simply allow threads to "bump" when new replies are added.
One of the issues for the "clogging" that occurs is new threads that may not have must interest stay at the top with the 4 pinned post game threads and man it's just tough.
I thought Seth was close to instituting the change but literally almost all the challenges that are brought up get much better by having the threads move to the top when people post. Popular threads rise, unpopular threads, redundant threads, etc. fall away.
Just my 2 cents. This is the only forum I've ever seen that doesn't have that function and oh my gosh it will make life so much better for the mods as well.