bluenoteSA80

April 17th, 2018 at 5:13 PM ^

to be flirting with a very dangerous and fine line with the statements I read. It's OK to be upset, but you can do so without threatening to call the morgue. I hope for his sake this can be resolved, or he may have brought himself on a world of hurt.

Zarniwoop

April 17th, 2018 at 9:26 PM ^

I can't imagine he'll be charged as there are no direct threats.

But, an exit post is pretty much inevitable.

Doesn't feel good. I was angry at his age also.

Hopeful he finds whatever he needs to succeed elsewhere.

Edit: and apparently I missed the exit post.

theyellowdart

April 17th, 2018 at 5:37 PM ^

The "He needs help" line was not there when I initally went to reply, assuming he edited it (though I may have just missed it.)  That said doesn't change much.   Hearing about this situation and getting worried about how haters may respond is such a weird ass response to me.

Clarence Boddicker

April 17th, 2018 at 6:03 PM ^

Oftentimes, a person shouting "Hey I'm going to do this bad thing" is often doing so because they have no other way to ask for help. They want someone to step in and stop it. If you're supposed to be a big tough football player how do you admit that you feel weak, sick, in pain, etc, except it's not physical? He hasn't actually hurt anyone, and did seem to suffer a personal tragedy. Getting kicked off a football team is nothing--you can just transfer someplace else and play. So what else is going on there? Maybe it's because I teach and I'm receptive to kids with troubles and the way they may react with self-harm, but I'll choose sympathy for now.

stephenrjking

April 17th, 2018 at 6:12 PM ^

Oh, I know what you mean. I've dealt with quite a bit of it myself. However, there's too much we don't know about his situation, and might never know, to understand everything.

My point was more that people who are following base emotional impulse may be more in "cry-for-help" mode but are still capable of doing some pretty dangerous things. Some suicide attempts, for example, are "cries for help." Sadly, not all of them fail as intended.

Kevin13

April 18th, 2018 at 9:30 AM ^

there is a problem there, and hopefully someone can help him. Glad the police are looking into it because too many times these kinds of things do turn violent and just make a bad situation much worse.

The threatening tweets he put out there could land him in serious trouble, but hopefully it leads to help.

UofM Die Hard …

April 18th, 2018 at 3:04 PM ^

I have a family member who is severly bi-polar and showed these same traits/and said similar damning things.  We got this family member help immediately..it was a bumpy road.. and while he still needs to be ontop of his medication and therapy sessions...he is living mostly a normal life keeping it in check. 

 

I see similariries here.....make sure he and everyone is safe, offer to help. 

Yooper

April 17th, 2018 at 9:12 PM ^

violations or some other matter not yet resolved. He was probably given conditions to live by with a chance for reinstatement if satisfied. He didn’t satisfy those conditions (or a prior matter couldn’t be resolved) and they said goodbye.
The facts will come out.

taut

April 17th, 2018 at 10:54 PM ^

I believe these are study days leading up to finals later this week. Maybe the stress of finals is getting to him. Being removed from the team I'm sure was a blow that made him question his future plans. Now, at the end of the school year, if he's been struggling academically (I know, speculative, not casting aspersions but casting about for some scenario that helps to explain the situation) he may be looking at a negative situation there too. Maybe he lashes out at someone he thinks is responsible for his troubles.

Blue_by_U

April 17th, 2018 at 7:01 PM ^

we don't 'KNOW' what is going on or what sparked the exchange. To me it reads, I have a family issue, I see it as life or death and coaches don't respect that. They punished me and I am going to use violence to get revenge.' Perhaps a bit irrational and interpretive on my end, but football values a 'thuggish' tough guy persona, a confidence...and if we suddenly expect this kid to be all sweet and understanding, it may not be in him to do that. Not judging his character, but irrational thought often forces irrational behavior. Hope he is taken care of before he makes a very regrettable mistake...and yeah I know this is pretty bad, but it reads like it could get a whole lot worse if someone doesn't intervene.

Guarantee there is a lot more to his family emergency, and it may not be something most would see as a true issue, but to him at that time it was the most important thing going on. The rigors of D-1 football forced his hand a bit with expendability. Don't want to do what we ask? see you later...

RobM_24

April 17th, 2018 at 5:25 PM ^

Not the exact same situation, but it immediately made me think of the social media threats by Jonathan Martin (former Miami Dolphin).

ijohnb

April 17th, 2018 at 8:08 PM ^

is fair to wonder whether there is anything else those in the football program could have handled anything differently to soften this kid’s fall. None of us know, we don’t know all the facts, but it is fair to consider. To believe that our coaches and the program is infallible is what keeps creating toxic athletic cultures across the country. This staff has made some missteps in the past with its handling of certain recruits and players (the Swenson situation was not handled well). Calling it a “circus” is misguided and inaccurate, but none of us know if anything could have been done differently to prevent this outcome, but it is not outrageous to discuss. If anything, keeping an open mind about the programs you follow would seem responsible.

Blue in Paradise

April 17th, 2018 at 8:18 PM ^

Got to Michigan? 5, 10, 20? Or 1 out of approx 200? How about at Stanford? Or the 49ers? Do you think it is more likely that a kid is having a breakdown or that the staff decided to torment this one kid out of the hundreds?

How many current or former Harbaugh players are coming to his defense? If this was a culture issue, wouldn’t some of these guys come out saying that EMB has a legitimate gripe?

As far as this story that he got kicked off the team for attending to a family emergency, does that really sound like something consistent with our staff culture? Even if it was, wouldn’t taking it to the school administration sound like a better idea than going on Twitter and making death threats.

The reason you and your cohorts are coming off like total assholes is that you are trying to turn a mental health tragedy into some predisposed football culture issue. You really just need to stop.