OT: Tebow released by the Jets [Locked]
Commence ESPN Tebow Mania with round the clock coverage.
Mod edit: Locked the thread because the discussion went way off course. Partially my fault for not being here in real time, but there's no reason a discussion about a football player on a sports site needs to turn into a discussion of his personal life when it's something against the sites rules. JGB.
ESPN is going to over cover this, send some reporter to stand in the front of the Jets office to tell us that Tebow was released, analyze which team will be the new circus, and then over cover them the whole season.
I can't believe he gets a tread on MGOBLOG, he's not worthy.
What a circus.What does Sal Paolantonio think about this? Oh wait, I don't give a fuck.
Time to jump on the hate wagon for a dude that never sought media attention and leads (by all accounts) a pretty decent life. Oh well, it's in style, DOES ANYONE ELSE HATE TIM TEBOW AND THINK HE'S THE WORST QUARTERBACK ALL TIME?
I find him to be a very nice, respectable, positive young man, with great athletic ability. He is better than several past Lions quarterbacks, so definitely not the worst QB of all time. Thank you.
I don't like Tebow because of his involvement in trying to convert tribal Pacific islanders to Christianity. I have no idea whether he's a good quarterback or not.
April 29th, 2013 at 10:19 AM ^
Yeah, fuck him for that. I'm glad that I only root for players who spend their time usefully in the offseason. They stimulate the economy by throwing wads of cash at strippers, provide jobs for police officers by getting DUIs, support numerous women's shelters by battering their wives and girlfriends, stimulate population growth by having literally dozens of children out of wedlock, ensure societal norms are respected by hitting and killing jay-walkers, and even ask us to re-evaluate state and local laws by shooting themselves with illegal weapons in night clubs. Fuck Tim Tebow for spreading religion in a non-forceful way while also doing some good for a poor community; what an asshole.
April 29th, 2013 at 10:23 AM ^
Who said ANY of those things were okay? Nice straw man.
If you don't see what's wrong with wrecking a culture and replacing it with one's own when said culture isn't of the human-sacrifice-and-stomp-on-women variety, then I can't help you.
P.S. Your avatar is familiar in the worst way. Did you get the banhammer, then rejoin two days ago with a similar handle and the EXACT SAME avatar? Wouldn't shock me.
April 29th, 2013 at 10:39 AM ^
Oh yes, I'm sure that whatever culture you're professing to protect was perfectly insulated from the outside world and now big bad Tebow is going to come rain down American hellfire and Christianity, destroying them completely. Pretty dumb reason to hate someone. Everyone tries to convince everyone else to follow their way of thinking (think advertisements, politics, sports, etc) why is Tebow so terrible? Because he's Christian and it's cool to be biased against all things Christian and/or America in the hipster/hippie cirlces? Why don't you go back to your coffee shop and finish working on that useless Sociology thesis. Don't forget to bring your non-prescription glasses and fair-trade scarf. I'd advise you to read this and buy the book rather than simply getting all your knowledge from the Huffington Post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guns,_Germs,_and_Steel
April 29th, 2013 at 11:52 AM ^
Playing the everyone hates Christians card? Really? How about his history of supporting radical groups like the church he was going to speak at in the winter that has a history of spewing homophobic hatred and hatred towards all other religions (including other Christian religions).
Or simply the fact that people are sick and tired about hearing about an awful QB.
April 29th, 2013 at 11:54 AM ^
April 29th, 2013 at 11:56 AM ^
Yup. Christians and Americans are under seige. Give me a break. Stop embarrassing yourself.
April 29th, 2013 at 11:28 AM ^
The Phillipines are one of the most Christian places in Asia, dating back to the time when it was part of colonial Spain.
While there are pockets (especially the outlying southern islands) of predominantly Muslim people, most are devout Catholics, and Catholocism has been part of their culture for hundreds of years.
Again, fuck the Tebow's for running and orphanage and providing medical care. And for good measure, fuck the Philipino-American MDs I know (again, who are practicing Catholics) who volunteer 1-2 weeks a year providing free health care there. How dare they.
PS Timmay is a sh*tty NFL QB, and the Jets have become a burning tire-fire.
April 29th, 2013 at 11:33 AM ^
goblue20111 put it best...the work they do is great, but adding in conversion (appears unnecessary in the Phillipines) is unwarranted baggage.
April 29th, 2013 at 11:42 AM ^
So you're saying that when a group does something good for a community, they shouldn't discuss what group they represent or give any information? Say a group of Mormons wanted to provide a clinic in Detroit to get people fitted for glasses. They shouldn't talk about their church or encourage people to check it out, hand out some pamphlets and whatnot?
April 29th, 2013 at 11:57 AM ^
I could be wrong in the case of Tebow et al, and I would appreciate correction if I am, but when I hear "conversion" I think "sit through a sermon or jump through our prescribed hoops before you get the goods or services we provide."
If the goods/services are provided regardless of whether the beneficiaries attend a service or participate in religious ceremonies, then I don't really have a problem.
April 29th, 2013 at 11:52 AM ^
Have any of you ever done mission work? Serious question.
I have, even though I'm not religious (am agnostic now). The only 'religious conversion' experience we had was having a shared Sunday mass with the local priest. The local people were free to come/not come. We were there to build houses and provide free medical care. We weren't holding a cross, donned in Templar clothing, burning down the local temple/shrine/etc.
I think some of y'all have been reading too many books about Torquemada and the Inquisition. It's about helping others, partly motivated on religious beliefs, partly based on a feeling of shared common humanity. If they want to learn more about religion, wonderful. If not, wonderful. Hope you enjoy the house/healing of parasites/cuts/hypertension/whatever.
April 29th, 2013 at 12:01 PM ^
I have done mission work, and at one point we made the beneficiaries (homeless) sit through a religious service before we provided the meal. That's not right.
April 29th, 2013 at 11:48 AM ^
I recognize the avatar too, and the way his new posts have gone, wouldn't be surprised by the ban jump
April 29th, 2013 at 11:00 AM ^
April 29th, 2013 at 11:45 AM ^
Oh, I forgot. We Americans are intellectually superior to those natives in the Pacific who are vulnerable to the nefarious and ingenious methods of Western religious-folk. They are such children who have no ability to decide for themselves if they would like to follow a religion or not. Granted, it's perfectly fine for a religious organization to hand out glasses in Detroit, because Americans are smart, educated people who can make decisions for themselves. Anyone living in a "third-world" country? Hell no! They are mere children who need Western liberals to protect them by hosting benefit concerts and rallies in places like Portland, LA, Brooklyn and Washington, DC!
April 29th, 2013 at 10:31 AM ^
Im not a religious person and I dont think Tebow is the greatest QB by any means, but I do know that he probably done more in a week than you have done in a lifetime. You seem to be a bitter man
Time to jump on the hate wagon? I think it's safe to say most people who get annoyed by a pretty crappy backup QB getting Brett Favre-like media coverage have been on this ride for a long time.
April 29th, 2013 at 10:02 AM ^
I think it's safe to say most people hate Tim Tebow not because of the media coverage but because it's what all the cool people are doing.
April 29th, 2013 at 10:30 AM ^
I'm sorry you're going to have to go out and buy new Tim Tebow posters for your walls, but spare us your lame psychoanalysis. Some people might simply get tired of continuously hearing about a rarely-used, backup QB who hasn't proven a thing in the league.
April 29th, 2013 at 11:02 AM ^
I get that. But it is misplaced anger. Tebow hasn't done anything wrong, ESPN has. Tebow would be dumb to turn down interviews, face time, etc. But don't fault him for ESPN's fauning. Turn off ESPN and don't turn it on again until gametime. It's the best thing I ever did. ESPN is the background noise of commentary. When was the last time ESPN told you something you didn't already know? Use the internet and sport-specific channels to streamline the information you want to acquire. Am I going to be watching the NFL network in June? Hell no, but I'll watch it 24/7 over draft weekend. Plus, I can avoid commentary about the NBA which I don't care for. The allure of ESPN has been lost on me. Perhaps it was the 6-hour Sportscenter marathons of my youth which endeared me to that bastard Berman and the rest of the crew, but I've given up on ESPN as a news source.
April 29th, 2013 at 12:47 PM ^
You're here posting and we're at 128 posts and counting.
As long as there are clicks, Tebow will be covered. Apolitical $$$$ viewpoint.
April 29th, 2013 at 10:13 AM ^
Tebow knew exactly what he was going to when he went to NY. It was a smart move as well because I guarantee you he has a $5 million/year job waiting for him on the Today show whenever he wants. All the morning gab shows will be lining up to hire him.
April 29th, 2013 at 10:22 AM ^
Never sought media attention? Guys been a media whore since day 1. If he didnt want the type of coverage he's been getting he would accept the fact he's not a flipping QB and needs to be a TE or a H-back.
April 29th, 2013 at 11:19 AM ^
Put yourself in his shoes. The dude workes his butt off since Pop Waarner league, because he wants to be a professional QB. It's hard to achieve the pinacle of a profession, only to be told "I know you're passionate about X, but we want you to do Y because you're better at it". It's somewhat like an engineer at a firm being told "We want you to go into business management because you have great sales skills and you'll be a great asset to the company and make us tons of cash", when the engineer just wants to diddle with his automobile parts. People love to bag on Tebow for being a QB when he would be better as a TE, but when people talk about Denard being a QB it's all "CHASE UR DREAMS I LOVE YOU", instead of "switch to RB where you are better suited".
April 29th, 2013 at 10:43 AM ^
You know,... except for that superbowl comercial....and all of his "look at me, I'm praying" moments. Denard goes to one knee after every touchdown. But he doesn't milk it like tebow did.
April 29th, 2013 at 11:12 AM ^
How did Tebow milk it? I honestly don't recall him ever having an attitude of "look how pious I am", but rather that that was something the media placed on him.
Also, I'm not sure how that Super Bowl commercial was milking attention. The commercial was on a topic that he feels strongly about; it wasn't about "BUY THE NEW TIM TEBOW BRAND CLEATS FOR ENHANCED PERFORMANCE EXTRA LONG JUMPS FREE SCHOLARSHIP TO COLLEGE", but rather a very well-spoken (and not controversial) right-to-life appeal. Athletes normally appear in commercials for charitable causes all the time; that doesn't make them media whores.
April 29th, 2013 at 11:59 AM ^
If you think that wasn't a controversial commercial you are insane. His viewpoint happens to be one that tells other people how to live their lives. The majority of Americans and world are strongly opposed to his viewpoint, so how exactly is is not controversial?
Oh and that group who he did the advertisement is officiallly designated as a hate group.
April 29th, 2013 at 12:11 PM ^
The viewpoint may be controversial, but the actual commercial content was no where near controversial in its actual execution. I'm not sure if you actually watched it or not, but I'm not sure the word "abortion" was even used.
April 29th, 2013 at 12:14 PM ^
When you do an add for an officially designated hate group its going to be controversial and it was. If it wasn't everyone wouldn't rember it.
April 29th, 2013 at 12:28 PM ^
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKLDNV4nT5E
I agree, this commercial was so offensive it shouldn't be on TV. /s
Also, FotF is an officially designated hate group? Well, I officially designate the Michigan Squirrels club a hate group. There, it's a hate group, I proclaimed it officially. SPLC has a vested political interest in defining as hate groups those organizations which it is idealogically opposed to.The SPLC has itself been criticized for being too liberal with the use of the "hate group" label.
April 29th, 2013 at 12:45 PM ^
Its a hate group. The SPLC carries a lot more wait than you do. You said it wasn't controversial. It was. Do you remember the Pepsi commercial from that year or the Coke commercial? The SPLC is very well respected non profit organization that has spent decades fighting groups like the KKK. They are also listed as a resource on hate groups by the FBI. They also frequently partner with the FBI. Don't act like they are some fringe political group. They aren't. You can't seriously believe that the FBI would partner with them if they were.
weight.
And they have none with some members of this board, and some with others. But, no politics, religion, tolerance, intolerance, opinions, real life, on this board, etc. etc.
I'm sure he's a wonderful person. And I'm going to be really pissed if my team picks him up because he's not a good QB.
April 29th, 2013 at 11:18 AM ^
Ha, this is one time that the purpose of the internet message board is defeated. "He does not deserve to be an NFL quarterback..." well, apparently 2 GMs, 2 coaches, and 2 teams have thought that he is deserving so far. He's already won a playoff game, which is more than Stafford can say (oh, but he threw for like 17,567 yards so obviously he's just awesome... let's forget he threw late interceptions while Tebow threw touchdowns in his appearance). I'm betting a 3rd GM, coach and team will pick him up. But WE know better, right?
April 29th, 2013 at 12:02 PM ^
The he has one a playoff game is the dumbest argument ever made in sports. It is a team sport. The LS won a playoff game to you know.
Both of those GMs have since been fired.
April 29th, 2013 at 12:04 PM ^
April 29th, 2013 at 11:36 AM ^
I though that was Bad TIm
I'm sure he doesn't want to be a back-up but I would love for my Redskins to pick him up.
April 29th, 2013 at 10:03 AM ^
Gross.