MSU Refused to Let Students Display Signs Critical of Simon In Breslin Tonight
Tried to bring this into the Izzone, they refused to allow it in the building. Nice going @michiganstateu. pic.twitter.com/QIVCKhMebK
— Noah Isaak (@noahisaak) January 19, 2018
January 19th, 2018 at 8:21 PM ^
Tried to bring this into the Izzone, they refused to allow it in the building. Nice going @michiganstateu. pic.twitter.com/QIVCKhMebK
— Noah Isaak (@noahisaak) January 19, 2018
January 19th, 2018 at 8:23 PM ^
per the replies, they don't let ANY signs into Breslin.
January 19th, 2018 at 8:32 PM ^
If that's true, then this is *sort of* a non-story.
If the students care enough to really protest, they can do chants. Or perhaps do some creative section choreography.
But what would really get attention would be if they (or a subset of them) would respectfully but firmly walk onto the court, sit on the logo, and chant something like "Fire Simon." On national tv.
I'm not saying they should, but I can tell you that it would be a powerful look.
January 19th, 2018 at 8:39 PM ^
Students are told from day one at state that they will be expelled for any unplanned and unapproved protests, and creating a spectacle on camera in an off limits area like that would definitely count. Also it's pretty generally known within the student population that MSU police require students to carry their student ID on them at all times (with RFID tags), and as they have bean counters up all over, they can generally tab which students were where at any given point if they need to kick people out of school for protesting even if they weren't apprehended on scene. Generally possible video footage + rfid is all they need. If it hurts their image, you are gone.
Also full disclosure I have a place up there so I hear the stories.
January 19th, 2018 at 8:47 PM ^
They're not going to expel three dozen students for protesting the whitewashing and possible enabling of sexual abuse. THAT is a bad look.
As I said, though, I don't know that they should actually do it. I have no skin in the game, so it's easy for me to speculate; for someone to actually do it requires a lot of thought and, if they decide to do it, a lot of courage. I'm just the peanut gallery.
January 19th, 2018 at 9:44 PM ^
After watching the Pedo State fiasco, nothing would shock me. That includes expeling students for protesting. MSU probably hired PSU's PR firm.
Speaking of which, the PSU apologists probably love the new company in denial land. Maybe we will get a tribute video for the old gymnastics coach played at the Breslin?
Then again, PSU is just fine. Making money, winning championships, recruiting like crazy. Maybe MSU, the trustees, and the fugly president are behaving rationally? Deny till caught. Apologize. Wait. Make more money... The precedent has been set?
January 20th, 2018 at 12:09 AM ^
negging this
January 19th, 2018 at 8:59 PM ^
So, basically, don't forget your tinfoil hat if you go to class up in EL?
January 19th, 2018 at 9:23 PM ^
Isn't it ironic, don't you think, that they will let richard spencer speak on campus (U of M might also), but students can't carry these signs!
January 19th, 2018 at 9:31 PM ^
Yes, it's stupid, but this is pretty much par for the course in student sections. Good on the kids for trying to push the envelope, but it can't be that shocking.
January 19th, 2018 at 10:19 PM ^
on your wedding night
January 20th, 2018 at 7:27 AM ^
or day.
January 19th, 2018 at 11:00 PM ^
Indeed
January 20th, 2018 at 12:01 AM ^
Too bad none of them go to class
January 20th, 2018 at 3:36 PM ^
So, just to be clear, chanting to fire a president who hid a massive sexual abuse case will get you expelled, but couch burning regardless of football outcome is acceptable?
January 19th, 2018 at 8:33 PM ^
There were a lot of signs behind the baskets as Z was missing free throws.
January 19th, 2018 at 9:31 PM ^
"Unided We Stand" still strikes me as one of the more quizical signs to show up in Breslin in recent years.
I mean, of all the things you COULD possibly protest in the world, I have to wonder if the ides in the Roman calendar is one of the things that should be at the top of this list.
January 20th, 2018 at 7:29 AM ^
Just make you a giant Simon head and roll it down the student section.
January 19th, 2018 at 11:03 PM ^
Yeah, I thought that was weird as well. They definitely had signs last year, as we all remember "Unided we Stand". Maybe it changed this year, but apparently not against Michigan.
January 19th, 2018 at 8:34 PM ^
There's a bunch of signs being held up when the opposing team is shooting free throws.
Burn the campus down and start over.
January 19th, 2018 at 10:35 PM ^
I stand corrected. it does look like they took the sign away because of the content, whether it's because it's controversial or not related to basketball.
January 19th, 2018 at 11:50 PM ^
Sounds like a violation of First Amendment and civil rights. There are some areas where restriction is permissible (e.g., "fighting words" and obscenity).The sign doesn't seem to fall into one of the suspect categories. That leaves "time, place and manner" restrictions but MSU has forfeited that defense by allowing other signs.
January 20th, 2018 at 1:30 AM ^
"fighting words"
January 19th, 2018 at 8:34 PM ^
Yeah, cause if you let them in, it’ll be signs, signs, everywhere signs, fucking up the scenery breaking my mind
January 19th, 2018 at 8:41 PM ^
Can’t you read the signs.
January 19th, 2018 at 8:43 PM ^
The sign said long haired freaky people need not apply.
January 19th, 2018 at 10:23 PM ^
I tucked my hair up under my hat and I went in to ask him why
January 19th, 2018 at 11:13 PM ^
free speech at Breslin doesn’t apply.
January 19th, 2018 at 11:22 PM ^
Welcome to the hotel california.
January 19th, 2018 at 8:34 PM ^
can't be true. they held up spirals and signs every time we shot free throws last week.
January 19th, 2018 at 8:30 PM ^
Womp womp.
January 19th, 2018 at 9:44 PM ^
Moo pig pac man. Ok that is the last one
January 19th, 2018 at 8:33 PM ^
sign wrong.
January 19th, 2018 at 8:37 PM ^
Wrong thread
January 19th, 2018 at 9:00 PM ^
This is nothing new, nor surprising. Used to happen all the time in the Maize Rage when I was in school. Pretty much anything remotely controversial got taken away.
January 19th, 2018 at 9:17 PM ^
..alert
January 19th, 2018 at 11:54 PM ^
not a troll, very true
i was involved in making maize pages for a while and Michigan would censor them all the time, even if we just put public facts
in 09, we wanted to report about a Penn State player (http://www.collegian.psu.edu/archives/article_f41c669e-dd10-5e8b-bde1-1…) who was caught masturbating in a library. This was supposedly out of bounds.
January 20th, 2018 at 1:38 AM ^
My friend made a sign for one of our other friends on the bball team. The sign had a magazine cutout of Micheal Jordan pasted on it, with a quote bubble saying "I wanna be like Nathan" and the school took it away because they said it was racist. Everyone was like wtf?
January 19th, 2018 at 9:16 PM ^
Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin are smiling at this blatent act of censorship
January 20th, 2018 at 8:45 AM ^
And so is someone in the White House.
January 20th, 2018 at 8:58 AM ^
And Berkeley, if we're playing this stupid game.
January 20th, 2018 at 12:40 PM ^
You are one administration too late with that comment.
January 19th, 2018 at 9:25 PM ^
You do a dummy sign! Make the real sign once you get in.
January 20th, 2018 at 6:16 AM ^
Just use a white board like the Michigan Student in the Maize Rage Section. The stuff that kid writes is great.
January 19th, 2018 at 9:35 PM ^
Wrong thread but one surprising thing about the whole Nassar thing is that the special investigation was done by former federal prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald. The same guy who caught Rod Blagojevich for trying to sell Obama's seat in Congress. Who also stopped that investigation before the President-elect Obama ended up under federal indictment for being part of the deal to sell his seat. And now he does a half assed investigation into MSU's behaviors regarding the Nassar cover up.
January 19th, 2018 at 9:36 PM ^
Wrong thread? Wrong board.
January 19th, 2018 at 9:38 PM ^
No, you're wrong Colonel Sanders
January 19th, 2018 at 9:44 PM ^
Moo pig info wars
January 19th, 2018 at 9:44 PM ^
Wait what just happened here