January 19th, 2018 at 8:32 PM ^

If that's true, then this is *sort of* a non-story.

If the students care enough to really protest, they can do chants. Or perhaps do some creative section choreography.

But what would really get attention would be if they (or a subset of them) would respectfully but firmly walk onto the court, sit on the logo, and chant something like "Fire Simon." On national tv.

I'm not saying they should, but I can tell you that it would be a powerful look.

Arb lover

January 19th, 2018 at 8:39 PM ^

Students are told from day one at state that they will be expelled for any unplanned and unapproved protests, and creating a spectacle on camera in an off limits area like that would definitely count. Also it's pretty generally known within the student population that MSU police require students to carry their student ID on them at all times (with RFID tags), and as they have bean counters up all over, they can generally tab which students were where at any given point if they need to kick people out of school for protesting even if they weren't apprehended on scene. Generally possible video footage + rfid is all they need. If it hurts their image, you are gone. 

Also full disclosure I have a place up there so I hear the stories. 


January 19th, 2018 at 8:47 PM ^

They're not going to expel three dozen students for protesting the whitewashing and possible enabling of sexual abuse. THAT is a bad look.

As I said, though, I don't know that they should actually do it. I have no skin in the game, so it's easy for me to speculate; for someone to actually do it requires a lot of thought and, if they decide to do it, a lot of courage. I'm just the peanut gallery. 


January 19th, 2018 at 9:44 PM ^

After watching the Pedo State fiasco, nothing would shock me.  That includes expeling students for protesting.  MSU probably hired PSU's PR firm. 

Speaking of which, the PSU apologists probably love the new company in denial land. Maybe we will get a tribute video for the old gymnastics coach played at the Breslin? 

Then again, PSU is just fine.  Making money, winning championships, recruiting like crazy.  Maybe MSU, the trustees, and the fugly president are behaving rationally?  Deny till caught.  Apologize.  Wait.  Make more money...  The precedent has been set?


January 19th, 2018 at 9:31 PM ^

"Unided We Stand" still strikes me as one of the more quizical signs to show up in Breslin in recent years. 

I mean, of all the things you COULD possibly protest in the world, I have to wonder if the ides in the Roman calendar is one of the things that should be at the top of this list. 


January 19th, 2018 at 11:03 PM ^

Yeah, I thought that was weird as well. They definitely had signs last year, as we all remember "Unided we Stand". Maybe it changed this year, but apparently not against Michigan.


January 19th, 2018 at 11:50 PM ^

Sounds like a violation of First Amendment and civil rights. There are some areas where restriction is permissible (e.g., "fighting words" and obscenity).The sign doesn't seem to fall into one of the suspect categories. That leaves "time, place and manner" restrictions but MSU has forfeited that defense by allowing other signs.


January 19th, 2018 at 11:54 PM ^

not a troll, very true


i was involved in making maize pages for a while and Michigan would censor them all the time, even if we just put public facts


in 09, we wanted to report about a Penn State player (…) who was caught masturbating in a library. This was supposedly out of bounds. 

a different Jason

January 19th, 2018 at 9:35 PM ^

Wrong thread but one surprising thing about the whole Nassar thing is that the special investigation was done by former federal prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald. The same guy who caught Rod Blagojevich for trying to sell Obama's seat in Congress. Who also stopped that investigation before the President-elect Obama ended up under federal indictment for being part of the deal to sell his seat. And now he does a half assed investigation into MSU's behaviors regarding the Nassar cover up.