Morris=Gardner

Submitted by Allin4Blue on September 20th, 2014 at 9:00 PM
So don't complain about who's starting. Terrible game by both with very few bright spots and a ton of turnovers.
It's going to be a long year.....

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snarling wolverine

September 20th, 2014 at 9:05 PM ^

If they are equal, then he should start.  Tie goes to the younger guy.

I like Gardner, but it's just not happening with him.  His record as a starter is around .500.  I'm sad to say it, but it's time to go with Shane and see what he can do.

MFanWM

September 21st, 2014 at 9:18 AM ^

Unless you are lighting up the world with your run game, why are they running so much god damn play action again this year which is not fooling anyone, the line does not block long enough for a shot down the field/and or not designing anything over the top anyways.

I thought that the evidence of Gardner sucking at play action and being exceptionally labored in the speed of his drops was fully on display all of last year....might want Nuss to watch that.  He was recruited to run a shotgun spread, it is what he is good at, he has absolutely terrible footwork in the pocket and now he is trying to be a pocket passer which deep-sixed Denard as well.

Gardner is at his best running wide open out of the gun, period.  Go to Morris or Speight even if you want to run a pro-style play action offense and with limited viewing, I would tend to think Speight is the most accurate at this point, so maybe even consider a few drives with him next week.

snowcrash

September 20th, 2014 at 9:39 PM ^

As poor as Gardner has been this year, he was effective at times in 2012 and 2013, most recently in the OSU game. Morris has looked awful and overmatched every time he's had to play. If he had started the OSU game, we probably would have lost 49-0. I think it's more likely that Gardner will turn it around than that Morris will take a quantum leap to a level he hasn't even come close to yet.

snarling wolverine

September 20th, 2014 at 10:25 PM ^

The one time Morris got to prep for and play an entire game as a starter (KSU), he performed respectably.  It's not fair to look at his little bits of garbage-time action and draw conclusions.  He didn't get most of the practice reps this week, and didn't get to play today until it was 26-10 and driving rain.  

To be clear, I don't think Shane is the savior of the 2014 team - there isn't one.  I think it's going to be a rough season regardless.  That being the case, I'd like to get the guy who will (in all likelihood) be our starter in 2015 and '16 a chance now to get some experience.

DetroitBlue

September 20th, 2014 at 9:52 PM ^

In all likelihood Hoke isn't going to be around next year so that really shouldn't even enter into it. And the fact remains that our offense with DG, that was only able to score 3 points against ND and Utah combined, is much, much better than our offense with Morris. That's how terrible Hoke's player development has been; in year 4 our best offense can only manage 3 points against the only 2 teams we've played with a pulse. Let that sink in for a minite

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snarling wolverine

September 20th, 2014 at 10:10 PM ^

Scoring 3 points over two games is horrible.  I don't know how you can rationalize that.  With Gardner at QB, games without an offensive TD are disturbingly common.

Gardner, sadly, has regressed badly.  His footwork is a mess and his accuracy is all over the place.  The completions we had today mostly required excellent individual efforts from the receivers, even on little tosses into the flat.  I'm surprised this has happened.  I thought he'd have a strong senior year, but he seems like a bundle of nerves despite all the experience he has.

Now, Morris is no great shakes either.  But he has only one career start under his belt  and doesn't get anywhere near as many practice reps with the first team, so it's not surprising he's looked shaky.  You don't normally expect your backup QB to come in cold off the bench and look awesome.  

 

 

Blueinsconsin

September 21st, 2014 at 9:35 AM ^

you haven't watched Gardner attempt to throw the ball?  It's not a lack of WR options, it's a QB that locks onto 1 reciever and even if that one WR is open, he can't get him the ball...Gardner is bad...If the team is going to not be good again this year, just keep giving Morris game reps this season and prepare him by giving him as much playing time as possible.  Keeping Gardner at QB does nothing but harm the team.

mgobleu

September 20th, 2014 at 9:04 PM ^

It's dark, water everywhere, maybe 500 people in the stands, and it looks like a drunk flag football game out there. Surely this must be the end...how embarrassing.

MGlobules

September 20th, 2014 at 9:12 PM ^

before someone like Brandon will even acknowledge they're bad--let alone half the people here. We've had one humiliation after another and they've been thoroughly blase. I don't think this one can be skirted, though. And there's nothing but more ahead. You wouldn't wish this on MSU, let alone your own team. But maybe just maybe this knocks sense into someone's head. 

Paly33

September 20th, 2014 at 9:05 PM ^

Let's at least give him a week of preparation until we pass judgement. But yes more turnovers feels like more of the same.

We just can't have nice things I guess.

wbpbrian

September 20th, 2014 at 9:07 PM ^

Our QB situation is not so black and white. Morris is not ready. We have better potentional of winning with Gardner. Be cause he can drag the play longer and on broken plays turn it into the bigger play with his legs. Morris still relys to much on his arm.