Middle class abandoning football

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Makes me wonder about how college football changes also.  Any thoughts?

Death of NFL inevitable as middle class abandons the game

"You really think the NFL is worried about young athletes? If so, they'd have changed the rules years ago, abandoning face masks, enlarging the ball to make it difficult to throw, switching to one platoon football."

I didn't know about one platoon football before (or the phrase).  Some research pulled up this article about Fritz Crisler:  The Man Who Changed Football

Sports Illustrated article starts:  "When the NCAA Rules Committee voted a return to two-platoon football last month, one of the least surprised men in the country—and one of the most pleased—was Fritz Crisler, athletic director of the University of Michigan. Crisler is a life member of the Rules Committee."

go16blue

September 8th, 2017 at 3:46 PM ^

Beside the point, but that SI article is really, truly incredible. Just a gem of football (and Michigan)'s past. Very ahead of its time too regarding head injuries. 

AmayzNblue

September 8th, 2017 at 3:46 PM ^

Kass, the author of the article has his motivation mostly in pushing his name out there as "one of the first." He spends quite a bit of time in the article using an analogy of him jumping in the "water" of calling football and CTE dangerous before anyone else and says only now, 5 years after his first article on it, others are beginning to jump into the water with him.

Sounds full of himself to be honest. I don't trust journalism that derives from self-promotion.

While CTE and fewer youth football teams may be true, this guy seems to be attempting to create a sense of urgency around the topic so that he can become the preacher on a street corner that everyone asks to share his wonderful prophecies. I would be far more interested in learning about any decline or increase of the number of teenaged players who are playing in HS. A number of football players in college and NFL didn't pick up the sport until high school....so there's that.

Rhino77

September 8th, 2017 at 3:52 PM ^

I know John Kass personally. Any time he can bash football in favor of soccer he does. I pointed out to him the other day that they are now finding CTE in former soccer players as well. Lots of headers.

Kass will bash football yet he has zero problem chain smoking his heaters outside of the Tribune Tower.

We all pick our poison.

FreddieMercuryHayes

September 8th, 2017 at 4:00 PM ^

Football will never die, but like most everything in the world, it will wane at some point.  Maybe it's popularity wanes faster unless something is done about the long term physical toll.  I mean, I loved football and played it since the 4th grade.  I still love to watch it.  But do I want my kids to play it?  Honestly, I'm not so sure anymore.  I just can't ignore the mounting data about damage to the most important organ for functioning throughout life.  It's a tough subject to grapple with.  I think at a point when they're old enough, if they want to play, I will let them, but I'm thinking that won't be until high school.  One of my little league coaches when I was in the 5th and 6th grade played OL for the Philly Eagles.  He wouldn't let his kid play football until high school because of all the damage to the body, and that was like 20 years ago.

Also, if football does take a nose dive in in popularity, it will most likely be due to the same damn thing that causes most things to tank; greed.  I'm already getting fatigued with the constant commercials and ads, the high prices for everything.  They'll find what you love and charge you for it.  Until you can no longer afford to love it.  Then it dies.

Bando Calrissian

September 8th, 2017 at 4:12 PM ^

I think the big hope for most of us is that football changes.

Teams at all levels have spent the last 20 or 30 years turning the sport into a metaphor for military combat. "Pro combat" uniforms, camo everywhere, military imagery and every game with a flyover, etc. Northwestern played Michigan wearing American flag uniforms with bloodstains on it, fergodsakes. The attitude is that football=combat=toughness=America.

That needs to change. Football is a game, not war. Football needs to be less about monumental hits and more about getting the same job done with a wrap tackle that does just as much in terms of Xs and Os, though without scrambling a brain or three. Different equipment. Changing strategies. Augmented technique. Less over-the-top emphasis on "hearing football" and spine-cracking hits. 

You can still play football. It can still be a great game. It can still be a tough game. But it doesn't have to be a militaristic combat blood feast.

Michology 101

September 8th, 2017 at 4:12 PM ^

It would probably take a good 50 years before football felt any real impact from parents no longer allowing their kids to play and guys just moving away from the sport in general. Though by then, scientists may develop some type of helmet that absorbs impact better. Maybe a helmet with some form of a mini protective energy field inside of it. If scientists can't help football, then it probably will eventually be stopped by public out cry, especially if many players keep leaving the game with bad CTE issues. Though even for that to happen, it would probably take 60 to 70 years from now, because too many people in our time still absolutely love the game. It would take people rather far off into the future who have lesser love for the sport of football to finally say they've had enough and the entertainment isn't worth the risk.

4godkingandwol…

September 8th, 2017 at 4:14 PM ^

It's just a matter of time. Not because of its violence, but because nothing lasts forever. I think esports, more than anything, is going to change human beings relationship with sports viewing over the next 50 years. And as viewers go elsewhere, the sport will drastically change to the point where it may not be recognizable.

NRK

September 8th, 2017 at 4:15 PM ^

Imagine writing an article about the death of a multi-billion dollar industry without any statistics to back it up, but you talked to a suburban dad who gave you some anecdotes.

M-Dog

September 8th, 2017 at 4:34 PM ^

In my hometown in PA, the results of a big high school football game would make the headline of the entire newspaper the next day.  Not just the front page, but the headline of the entire paper.

My high school where football was a religion just recently won a state championship . . . in soccer.  We did not even have soccer when I went there.  

Meanwhile, they can't get enough kids to go out for football to field a competitive team anymore.

And this is in a lower-middle class blue collar PA town where football has been ingrained in the culture for 100 years.

The canary in the coal mine is already dead.  

Yes it's true, you may have not noticed any real change and can still breathe just fine . . . for now.

 

Vasav

September 8th, 2017 at 4:24 PM ^

Or if it dies, something else will fill the "contact team sport" niche. I imagine in the future it may not be the most popular game in America, and become more of a niche sport. As someone who loves the game more than the average American this makes me sad. But I think there are always going to be a number of young boys and men who will benefit from letting off steam in contact sports rather than trying to prove themselves in more disastrous ways. I thank god I had football as a kid and that my parents let me play - against their better judgment.

I don't think the NFL will change it - they've too much vested in the current game. I think any change will lead to a loss in popularity, for a time. I think it's as likely that we see football fall and rugby rise as our culture figures out what's acceptable. I think any changes will be led by middle class Americans who love the game and realize it needs to change or die to be acceptable to a society where people live long into their sixties and seventies, and dementia is no longer just a fact of life but a preventable condition based on a lifetime of choices and accidents. I'm imagining high schools or colleges in a football mad state like Pennsylvania experimenting with less players, less equipment, different rules to govern blocking and tackling.

Change is scary but it can also be fun.

M-Dog

September 8th, 2017 at 4:33 PM ^

It will have to change.

But . . . it has done it before, and radically.  And those changes were mostly driven by safety.

Think what a radical change the forward pass was in its day.  

Imagine doing it in rugby today.  Imagine telling the New Zealand All-Blacks that they are going to start throwing the ball forward.  That's a shocking level of change to a sport.

Yet it happened in football.

The game will go through significant changes because it has to.  But, it's already gone through it before.

It's just time to do it again.

 

Vasav

September 8th, 2017 at 4:42 PM ^

And -  while not a billion dollar industry at the time - the game was incredibly popular when it last changed. I do think the magnitude of how popular it is means the change is NOT going to come from a business like the NFL. Even college football up until the '80s - before TV money - was not quite a business yet. It's hard (but not impossible) for large businesses to adapt, but the fact that when Teddy Roosevelt was in office this game changed, became safer, and became ultimately more exciting and more popular makes me less cynical on football's future. And also far more willing to accept change.

Frankly, it's people like us who are going to lead the change. Not Roger Goodell or Jim Delaney.

Tuebor

September 8th, 2017 at 5:31 PM ^

But people actually died on the field, that is what prompted those changes.  In 1905 19 players died playing college football.   Today deaths on the field are not a result of big hits, but usually a kid having an undiagnosed heart condition or playing with mono and ruptering their spleen.

 

 

Blue Indy

September 8th, 2017 at 4:27 PM ^

While pee wee football is experiencing a sharp decline in our country (and arguably rightfully so), high school football participation has been much more stable. college football, and the NFL, will be fine.

Jmer

September 8th, 2017 at 6:22 PM ^

Studies have shown that kids in the pee wee football age range are more likely to get a concusion in flag football than in full contact because in full contact at that age, the kids are wearing the same helmet equipment as the pros have but aren't playing fast enough to cause enough froce for a concusion. While in flag football, the flags hang of the belt line down towards the knees. Kids dive for the flags and take knees to the head. 

Jeff09

September 8th, 2017 at 4:45 PM ^

The phenomenon is real, if a little overblown. Per SFIA data, total tackle football participation is down from 6.8 million in 2010 to 6.2 million in 2015 (negative 1.8% CAGR). This is for the US population 6 and up. Fewer people are also playing baseball, while lacrosse and hockey gain in popularity

Qmatic

September 8th, 2017 at 5:00 PM ^

I'll contribute more to this once I'm done coaching my game tonight as the team looks to go 3-0. I do coach in the hood so maybe I'm not qualified for this

Tuebor

September 8th, 2017 at 5:25 PM ^

I'd say demographics are playing a larger role in decreased participation than parents thinking the sport is somehow more dangerous than it was 10 years ago.  As the US becomes increasingly more hispanic football will lose particpants.  

 

I'd like to see some real studies on CTE and high school football.  NFL players have played football for at least 15 years if not more.  Generally including 2 years  middle school, 4 years in high school, 4  years in college and an average of 5 years in the NFL.  How much risk is there if you stop playing football after high school?  Can the brain heal itself if you stop playing football in time?  

 

I think the soccer moms who hear about CTE on tv and assume that their son is gonna get a degenerative brain disease and kill himself from playing youth football is a little overblown.

 

That said there are plenty of positive aspects of playing youth football that need to also be considered when weighing the risks.  Among them are learning teamwork, self esteem, physical fitness, how to lose, how to win, mental toughness, overcoming adversity.

The Bos of Me

September 8th, 2017 at 5:03 PM ^

While reports of football's demise are greatly exaggerated, as a youth lacrosse coach I will tell you that I have had dozens of parents tell me their kid was i lacrosse because they would not let them play football. That's a thing, at least.

Perkis-Size Me

September 8th, 2017 at 5:07 PM ^

I believe that there are more and more families telling their sons they won't be playing, but is football dead, or dying? Hell no. For every family that tells their son he won't be playing, there are several others who view football as their son's ticket to a better life.

Parents can see it as a way to get keep their son off the streets, away from drugs, surround him with (hopefully) good role models who teach him hard work and accountability, and if he's good enough, get a scholarship to a good school that his family otherwise would have no way to ever pay for. Maybe one day, if he continues to be good enough, he can play on Sundays and create a better life for himself AND his family. To many families, the short-term risks of what happens when you don't play FAR outweigh the long-term risks of concussions, CTE, mobility issues, etc. They'll all take their chances with playing now because the prospects in your immediate future of not playing don't look very good.

Football will evolve to be as safe as it can be, but it is so ingrained into our culture to the point where it will never die. Try telling the whole state of Texas that football is dying. Football isn't king down there. Football is the Holy Trinity. Life down there revolves around that game. Same goes for places like Florida, Georgia, California, Ohio, and just about anywhere in the South. 

ryebreadboy

September 8th, 2017 at 6:53 PM ^

Honestly, does it matter? We all know the myriad long-term risks associated with smoking, and teens still start smoking every day. We know the risks associated with obesity, yet the proportion of overweight and obese Americans continues to rise. The human capacity for denial is an amazing thing. People are going to play football no matter the risk of CTE.

bluinohio

September 9th, 2017 at 2:37 AM ^

This. As a society, we always grab onto things like this that affect such a small percentage of people. It's a part of life. People are going to do it. Make it as safe as you can, that's the most you can do. People still drive cars and people die every day. We make them as safe as we can, but people aren't going to stop driving.

caliblue

September 9th, 2017 at 12:23 AM ^

is not really football crazy , or at least not in the SF Bay area. We have our powerhouses too ( DeLaSalle ) but in the suburbs more and more parents are not letting their kids play football. Cal and Stanford have always had open seats even during great opponents ( eg USC UCLA Washington ) . The south is a little more entrenched but even there it is losing steam

caliblue

September 9th, 2017 at 12:23 AM ^

is not really football crazy , or at least not in the SF Bay area. We have our powerhouses too ( DeLaSalle ) but in the suburbs more and more parents are not letting their kids play football. Cal and Stanford have always had open seats even during great opponents ( eg USC UCLA Washington ) . The south is a little more entrenched but even there it is losing steam

snarling wolverine

September 8th, 2017 at 5:44 PM ^

 

"You really think the NFL is worried about young athletes? If so, they'd have changed the rules years ago, abandoning face masks, enlarging the ball to make it difficult to throw, switching to one platoon football."

 

Why would an enlarged ball cut down on injuries?

Esterhaus

September 8th, 2017 at 6:07 PM ^

Is being milled down to a nub. The wealth gap is extreme. I say this from a top 1% household. Yet I have no say because those who run things are top .001% and my socioeconomic professional class is next. It's like watching that steamroller slowly proceed in the film a Fish Called Wanda except the wrong people are behind the wheel

 

yooper2001

September 8th, 2017 at 6:11 PM ^

Perhaps the middle class is tired of NFL players committing Assult, Domestic Violence, Testing positive for controlled substance, Drunk Driving, Gun Violations, Murder, Failure to pay child support,

 Gambling, Bankruptcy's after signing multi-Million dollar contracts, Failure of standing for the American Flag. And many other stupid things I forgot to mention. This is the obvious answer.

StephenRKass

September 8th, 2017 at 6:38 PM ^

I read this column with great interest earlier this week. Though of posting it at mgoblog, but decided against it, because it is such a divisive topic. I have thought about this a lot topic a lot, because my son played football for 7 years, in the suburban Chicago league the columnist mentions. Several comments.

  1. I really like John Kass,I can and he is observant. He is not a knee jerk bleeding heart liberal who has an agenda against football, so to speak. You can take what he writes for what it's worth. But I certainly see the popularity of youth football here in the western burbs going down precipitously, even more so in the upper middle class, where the expectation is that you'll go to college and need to protect your noggin.
  2. My son quit high school football this Fall. He is concerned about the concussions, but more than that, the CTE. My wife didn't help . . . she was ready for him to give it up. He wants to head towards engineering, and doesn't want to be foggy in his thought process.
  3. Those continuing to play are either very fast, very big and strong, or love the game deeply. My son is about 6 foot, little bit above average speed, weights about 160 pounds. He wasn't fast enough to be a good receiver or cornerback. He wasn't big enough for line play, or really even for LB, at least at our high school. He likes the game, but after 7 years, saw the writing on the wall, and decided to hang up his cleats.
  4. I can't and won't tell anyone else what to do. But the CTE stuff is really as concerning or more concerning than concussions.

I can't predict the future, but I too am really wondering about the future of the game. It doesn't look good.

cincygoblue

September 8th, 2017 at 6:41 PM ^

Seems like lacrosse and soccer have really started to take over cincy. I was on my junior high's first team in 2004 and the last couple years they've had to hold tryouts.