[LOCKED] Semi-OT: NCAA to relocate championships from North Carolina for 2016-2017
http://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/media-center/news/ncaa-relocate-cha…
Looks like the NCAA is following pro sports' examples and pulling events out of North Carolina due to their sexual orientation and gender identity laws.
Affected championship games:
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2016 Division I Women’s Soccer Championship, College Cup (Cary), Dec. 2 and 4.
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2016 Division III Men’s and Women’s Soccer Championships (Greensboro), Dec. 2 and 3.
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2017 Division I Men’s Basketball Championship, first/second rounds (Greensboro), March 17 and 19.
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2017 Division I Women’s Golf Championships, regional (Greenville), May 8-10.
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2017 Division III Men’s and Women’s Tennis Championships (Cary), May 22-27.
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2017 Division I Women’s Lacrosse Championship (Cary), May 26 and 28.
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2017 Division II Baseball Championship (Cary), May 27-June 3.
The release does mention that if a North Carolina team earns the right to play a championship game in their home state, it will be held there.
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September 13th, 2016 at 10:05 AM ^
Yup, this should go well...
September 13th, 2016 at 10:32 AM ^
September 13th, 2016 at 10:35 AM ^
September 13th, 2016 at 10:05 AM ^
This is the North Carolina GOP's response.
"I wish the NCAA was this concerned about the women who were raped at Baylor."
— Andrew Carter (@_andrewcarter) September 13, 2016
--The N.C. Republican Party pic.twitter.com/6lADUI4KCF
September 13th, 2016 at 10:08 AM ^
September 13th, 2016 at 10:11 AM ^
I've seen several people upset at the statement about Baylor but what part of it is false? How do Baylor and Penn State get slapped on the wrist for things that literally ruin people's lives while North Carolina's random citizens get punished because the 4-5 transgender people at these events would have to use their biological bathrooms?
Whether the laws are just or not (I personally think it's much easier for everyone to just to have a third gender neutral bathroom) I don't see how moving the events out changes anything. The governor will still be a racist/sexist/transphobic/bigoted/intolerant/whatever buzzword you want to use and nothing will likely change as a reslult of this. At least wait a couple months until the NC residents have a chance to get the ruling overturned if they so desire.
September 13th, 2016 at 10:13 AM ^
September 13th, 2016 at 10:20 AM ^
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September 13th, 2016 at 10:26 AM ^
Plus, have you ever had to sit down (emergency-situation-style) on a traditional toilet in a crowded venue after 5000 men have pissed in it? Seriously fellas, we're all adults here. Can we NOT piss willy-nilly all over the god damned stalls when we have to use those to piss? It's like men have a contest: "Who Can Get More Piss All Over The Place."
September 13th, 2016 at 10:35 AM ^
at the Oceana Naval Air Station, they used to put these little biodegradable ships with targets in the urinals. Those bathrooms stayed relativley clean. A man just needs incentive to focus on after a few drinks. Like the flys etched in the urinals at Schipol.
September 13th, 2016 at 10:26 AM ^
I mean they want to do something that has no basis in science then let them. That's their choice. But yes, 100% confine them to a seperate bathroom if they won't use the one that coincides with their gender. I mean read this: http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/04/23/twenty-stories-provi…
While a gender neutral bathroom might not be the best permanant solution it's clear that an all out free for all is much more harmful.
(Side note: comparing this to segregation is absolutely ridiculous. These people have nothing but their "feelings" stopping them from using a restroom that is just as good as the one across the hall).
September 13th, 2016 at 10:27 AM ^
A Breitbart article? Really? Thanks for proving your ignorance.
September 13th, 2016 at 10:36 AM ^
So no argument from you on the 25 examples presented there? I'm not shocked, when in doubt throw insults, right? Also thank you for the buzzword of "ignorant." I only have like 2 more to go this thread before I hit the "offend a SJW" jackpot.
September 13th, 2016 at 10:38 AM ^
Uh... Breitbart isn't exactly a bastion of independent news and analysis, first off.
Second - the stories that they cite have nothing to do with transgender bathroom laws. It has always been, and always will be, illegal to peep or video tape people in bathrooms - that's why they were charged. Nearly all of the stories are in states that haven't tried to issue these protections. Only one as far as I can tell is actually citing a gender rule, and their link is a 404 so I can't investigate the context.
If anything these stories prove the opposite - sexual predators are going to be sexual predators, regardless of whether there's a law saying that trans people can't use a bathroom of their choice. Their actions are illegal regardless, and transgender protections don't have any impact on the ability to prosecute them - it was never "illegal" to be in the wrong bathroom before all this, that wasn't what predators were charged with.
September 13th, 2016 at 10:25 AM ^
Charlotte, Greensboro and Cary get punished, where there are less McCrory supporters (as a percentage) than the more rural regions. McCrory is running a campaign ad right now on boys not using girls bathrooms - he's completely dug in. (not /s)
I guess we're all just Deplorables down here. (/s)
September 13th, 2016 at 10:36 AM ^
I don't feel bad about males having to use the man's or a single stall family bathroom. People out there are crazy and if you don't think kids can be abducted by some lunatic in the bathroom, you need to get out from under your rock. And I think it more likely a man would abduct a girl from a bathroom than a woman would.
Also, if you're doing something that makes everyone around you uncomfortable, you're probably doing something you should reevaluate and come up with a different solution.
September 13th, 2016 at 10:33 AM ^
~ Kami Mueller
September 13th, 2016 at 10:07 AM ^
Outrageous.
September 13th, 2016 at 10:09 AM ^
2. Complaining about "political correctness" = a particularly cowardly way of supporting unfair discrimination.
September 13th, 2016 at 10:20 AM ^
Complaining about political correctness = a particularly logical way of complaining about people who refuse to tolerate those who have right wing political views. I mean come on, most liberals do not even agree with the SJW era right now and what they're doing by just calling anyone who disagrees with them "racist" or "bigoted."
September 13th, 2016 at 10:28 AM ^
September 13th, 2016 at 10:18 AM ^
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September 13th, 2016 at 10:24 AM ^
September 13th, 2016 at 10:29 AM ^
Perhaps, but I think it's important to note that political correctness to the extreme that we have it currently does more to repress the right than they currently do to anyone else.
September 13th, 2016 at 10:33 AM ^
September 13th, 2016 at 10:06 AM ^
Send it back to Montgomery!
September 13th, 2016 at 10:08 AM ^
No matter what your feelings are on the underlying issues (no politics), it makes me sad to see these social divides seemingly becoming more pronounced. I guess 319 million people is a lot different opinions on things.
September 13th, 2016 at 10:27 AM ^
is this concept called compromise ...
September 13th, 2016 at 10:09 AM ^
But for once the NCAA does something right.
September 13th, 2016 at 10:15 AM ^
Yup! Good thing we have the NCAA to make sure that nobody has to have their lives RUINED by having to use the mens bathroom if they have a dick!
September 13th, 2016 at 10:18 AM ^
September 13th, 2016 at 10:23 AM ^
I have a friend who is transgender, born male. Danielle transitioned to female over a decade ago and is actually quite conventionally attractive, i.e., cleans up quite well in a dress and make-up. If you saw her you would think "hey, that's a woman" Danielle's preference is to use the woman's restroom. Under the letter of the NC law, she is legally bound to use the men's restroom.
What restroom do you think Danielle should be using?
September 13th, 2016 at 10:26 AM ^
September 13th, 2016 at 10:30 AM ^
Has she had surgery?
September 13th, 2016 at 10:31 AM ^
You watch a lot of shemale porn and hate yourself for it.
September 13th, 2016 at 10:34 AM ^
Not sure how that's not a valid question. If she hasn't then no. If she has then sure, that means she's clearly not some random pedophile pretending to be transphobic to peep on people, which is, you know, what the law is helping prevent.
September 13th, 2016 at 10:25 AM ^
Seem like a really great person.
September 13th, 2016 at 10:31 AM ^
Yep, I'm a racist, sexist, Islamaphobic, bigoted, hateful, despicable, transphobic, and most importantly, I'm deplorable.
September 13th, 2016 at 10:14 AM ^
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September 13th, 2016 at 10:22 AM ^
I'm not sure if permission of the topic is attributable to tacit agreement or just the close association of the controversial subject matter to all things sports-related. That said, the discussion always devolves away from sports into the minutae of the dispute itself.
September 13th, 2016 at 10:23 AM ^
This is a slippery slope, but if the NCAA wants to get into the outrage / boycott business, so be it.
Just don't cherry pick your targets of outrage, NCAA. If you are going to be in the outrage business, you should cover the whole political spectrum.
I mean, if a Northeast state takes a bunch of guns away from some right-wing nut-job Preppers, you are going to boycott that state too, right?
What good is thte outrage game if everybody doesn't get to play?
September 13th, 2016 at 10:26 AM ^
I think they have been pretty consistent. When Indiana tried to pass a law which adversely affected a segment of people the NCAA threatened to pull events from the state including the Final Four. Indiana dropped the proposed law.
September 13th, 2016 at 10:32 AM ^
There are lots of "segments of people" that feel oppressed. Has the NCAA boycotted on behalf of all of them?
This is a slippery slope for an organization that is supposed to represent cross-sections of society and not play "favorites".
They can't win with this strategy.
September 13th, 2016 at 10:31 AM ^
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September 13th, 2016 at 10:16 AM ^
The world has utterly and completely lost its mind and its common sense. Enjoy your mimosa, a good book, and the spectacular glacier viewing on the deck of the Titanic.
September 13th, 2016 at 10:20 AM ^
September 13th, 2016 at 10:23 AM ^
If the NCAA wants to jump on the bathroom bandwagon, fine. But that seems like the wrong institution to be laying claim to social responsibility.
September 13th, 2016 at 10:21 AM ^
Moms? I need my Moms!