Jalen Rose all time Michigan starting 5
So Jalen Rose came up with his all time Michigan starting 5 for basketball. This is what he had:
Trey Burke
Jalen Rose
Glen Rice
Juwan Howard
Chris Webber
What would you guys put for your starting 5? Obviously it might be nice to have at least one guy from before the 80's.
Off the top of my head, I would put Cazzie in here and take either Rose or Burke out. Keep the rest.
Probably most overrated player in Michigan basketball history. Hope he does not read this :)
Antoine Joubert does, however, head the first team "hair" list!
Like the boyfriend in Coming to America.
Guard Thompson
Josh Bartelstein
Mark Koning
JP Oosterbaan
Ibi Watson
No Kevin Gaines?
I feel like Guard Thompson is a misfit on this team (assuming you were going for random non-contributers). Thompson scored over 700 points at Michigan and was the first real three point shooter we had.
Garde was 2nd team All Big Ten. He should have played before Judge and finally outshined him his senior year when they went to a three guard lineup with Garde Thompson, Joubert, and Gary Grant.
Garde Thompson was helped in his senor year by the adoption of the 3 point field goal in 1986.
9 for 11 to beat David Robinson and Navy in the NCAA tournament. UNC was all over him the next game but he still scored.
You be sittin’ on the half shell.
Mike mcgee begs to differ
Garde Thompson. FIFY
Trey Burke (20) Jalen Rose (10) Rickey Green (10)
Cazzie Russel (30) Jalen Rose (10)
Glen Rice (20) Campy Russel (20)
Juwan Howard (20) Rudy T (20)
Chris Webber (30) Tarpley (10)
Hubbard, Grant, Stauskas off the bench situationally
Is the (#) pertaining to minutes per game you would play them?
affirmative
I may not agree with the ordering/minutes, but I think you have almost defined the universe here. These plus Gary Grant are the 15 guys that should be in the conversation.
Glad to see Gary Grant on so many lists.
He is the best point guard I've seen at Michigan in my life time.
And there are other great ones as has been pointed out.
For starters his list does have a guy from the 80s Glen Rice
Heres a list (alphabetically) of every person that played basketball at Michigan
https://www.proballers.com/basketball/team/1117/michigan-wolverines/all…
Michigan Wolverines All-Time Roster | Proballers
My starting 5
college career
PG Trey Burke - National Player of the Year ,BIG10 Freshman of year ,and as a Sophomore he lead the team in scoring,assist,steals and BLOCKS .At the time he set Michigan season assist record
SG Cazzie Russel - (Number retired) National Player of year (avg 30.8 that season) 3 x All American .Helped Michigan to back to back Final 4,3 straight BIG10 titles .Crisler Arena is called "the house that Cazzie built"
SF Glen Rice (Number retired) Michigan All Time scoring leader,All American avg 25.6 while shooting 58.3% and 52% from three that season.Helped lead Michigan to 89 National Title and named Final 4 MOP while scoring 184 that tournament ,a record that still stands.
PF Rudy Tomjanovich (Number retired) - 2 x All American ,3 x All Conference .Michigan All Time rebound leader,2nd All Time scorer.
C Chris Webber - All American THE ONLY player in NCAA history to AVG 17+ pts 10+ rbs,2.5 ast,2.5 blocks and 1.5 steals ,while playing 70+ games
Coach Steve Fisher National Championship, three Final 4s ,four Elite 8s .highest win% All Time (50+ games) highest win% NCAA Tournament in school history . 3rd most wins
NBA career
PG Jalen Rose 16 year career . Nine times scoring 15+ per game . Solid NBA career with 923 games,13,200 points,3500 assist.3100 rebounds
SG Jamal Crawford 20+ years played. 3 x 6th ,man of the year .The ONLY player in NBA history to score 50+ with 4 different teams,the only player to score 50+ off the bench .He is top 20 in 50 point scoring games.7th in NBA history in made 3s . one of two players to score 10 000 off the bench
SF Glen Rice 3 x All Star had a 7 yr run where he avg about 23 per game
PF Rudy Tomjanovich (Number retired) 5 x All Star ,Houston Rockets 3rd leading scorer in franchise history. 2nd overall pick in 1970 draft Sandwiched between Bob Lanier and Pistol Pete
C Chris Webber (number retired) 5 x All Star NBA Rookie of year. 13 x avg 20+ points .13 x avg 9+ rebounds
Coach Rudy Tomjanovich - 2 NBA titles with the Rockets,Olympic Gold Medal
Rudy T has to be the greatest Michigan basketball person of All time
Side note : Chris Webber,Cazzie Russel,Rudy Tomjanovch were named top 100 High school basketball players of All Time .They dont give an actual spot where a player is ranked,just a top 100
+100 (if i could)
Drop the mic ? leave the building, nuff said
I think I'd take Beilein over Fisher as the coach though. Fisher did a lot of good things....he also contributed to the program getting in NCAA trouble and relied much more on highly ranked recruits. While he went to one more championship game than Beilein and took home the trophy, he also did so with his predecessor's team.
John Beilein coached at Michigan for 12 years:
21 NCAA tournament wins,finished top 3 in conference 3 times . 7 x lost 12+ games . signed 14 players that made an NBA roster .Great teacher of the game.Guys like Trey ,Duncan Nik improved under John.
Steve Fisher coached at Michigan 8 years + 6 games
22 Tournament wins (team record) finished top 3 in BIG10 five times.(team record) 2 times lost 12+ games .signed 14 guys that made an NBA roster .great teacher ,great recruiter .
in 4 less years Steve Fisher had more tournament wins,better BIG10 success,signed the same number of NBA players and won a National Title
Congrats. Finally, someone got it right. Rudy T must be at the top of the list. Would you all please read ralphgoblue's entry again - Rudy T owns one of the only three numbers retired, owns the rebounding records, and 2nd in scoring.
Only 3 numbers retired? Rudy, Cazzie, Glen and Phil.
I agree with all of the OP selections with the discussion of Trey Burke having the most competition in the backcourt. Depending on individual criteria I submit Jamaal Crawford and Rumeal Robinson deserve equal consideration.
Very tough, but here goes.
Gary Grant PG - true 2 way player
Jalen at SG
Cazzie or Glen at SF, but easily the high debate pick'em
Roy Tarpley at PF. Don't sleep on Tim McCormick
C-Web. Crazy talent.
Good call on Tim McCormick. Definitely worthy of consideration and I'm surprised he hadn't been mentioned yet. Also, my bad for having forgotten about Tim.
Grant
Burke
Rice
Russell
Webber
Depends on how you approach it. The five best players at their peak somewhat logically put in positions, or do you consider how they might play together?
Here is mine:
1) Cazzie Russell, could play the 2 or the 3. Great scorer and rebounder for his size.
2) Glen Rice at the 3 or 4, best pure shooter I have ever seen and tall enough to get it off without necessarily requiring a screen. Also a very fine rebounder.
Since I've used the first two spots up with guys who are going to need the ball and aren't great defensively (except for rebounding), that impacts my next 3 picks.
3) Gary Grant at the 1. Great defense, great passer.
4) Rudy T. at the 4 Incredible rebounder, very good defensively. Another scorer but could defer, I think.
5) Roy Tarpley at the 5, man is this a good rebounding team or what? Shot blocking and defense as well.
Think this team would be absolute dynamite and without any weaknesses.
Don't mean to dismiss Burke or anyone else, but think Grant's defense is very much a plus that would come in handy.
Webber way better player than Tarpley.
Here's mine, emphasizing that I have little knowledge before 1989 and will neglect the old-timers.
- Burke
- Cazzie
- Rice
- Webber
- Rudy T
Second team:
- Grant
- Rose
- Green
- Howard
- Tarpley
Honorable mention:
- Stauskas
- Blanchard - the lost great player in the Amaker era
- Rumeal - not as good a player as his popularity at the time, still solid
- Simpson
- Mills
- Vaught
- Traylor
- McCormick
I love Jalen, but he doesn't make the top 5:
Trey Burke (NPoY; incredible tourney run leading to near-NC)
Cazzie Russell (let's not forget greats from long ago)
Glen Rice (Must be on every list).
Chris Weber (Most dominant of the Fab-5)
Roy Tarpley (Love Juwan, but he wasn't as dominant as Tarpley)
Fisher era: Rice, Webber, Howard, Rose, Bullock
Ellerbe era: Bullock, Jamal, LaVell, Gaines, B-Robinson
Amaker era: B-Robinson, Horton, Dion Harris, Courtney Sims, uhhhhhhh Lester Abram
Beilein era: Trey, Nik, Mitch, Moe, Caris
Howard era: Zavier, Teske, Franz, Livers, Brooks
Edit: I guess this was a starting 5 which makes the Ellerbe era really small. Regardless, I'll take my chances with Robinson and Blanchard at the 4 and 5.
Ricky Green, Eric Turner, Leslie Rockymore - c'mon where is the love? Gary Grant, Rumeal Robinson ...
I'd take Cazzie Russel over Jalen Rose, and Rudy Tomjanovich over Juwan Howard.
My second team goes, Rickey Green, Gary Grant, Juwan Howard, Bill Bunting and Jalen Rose.
Richard Rellford
Butch Wade
James Voskull
Eric Riley
Paul Jokisch
Bench:
Jason Bossard
Tom Brady brings winning attitude
I need Craig Ross’s starting five! I’ll bet it includes Terry Mills
Love these discussions.
Rudy T. was on some awful teams, but he was probably the greatest Michigan player ever. So my starting five:
Rudy T.
Cazzie Russell
Glen Rice
Trey Burke
Chris Webber
I don't see Leo Brown on any of these lists.
Cazzie, rudy t?, gary grant?
Picking an all-time Michigan starting 5 is a win-win task. There are at least three different sets of starting fives that could be named-that could stand very evenly with any other university's best starting five.
Our family lived in the AA area when Johnny Orr was coaching. They were not always the most talented but I loved how they played the game.
Phil Hubbard and Rickey Green were nice nice players.
March 27th, 2020 at 10:19 AM ^
If Rose thinks he was a better Michigan Team Player than Cazzie-- who was the National College Player of the Year--just keep listening to him
Blah, Rose, Blah, Rose, Blah ME ME ME ME ME, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah............
Rudy T might beg to differ as well......
And, there are more who were better players at M......more than just a few!