Jalen Rose all time Michigan starting 5

Submitted by Rick Grimes on March 26th, 2020 at 12:05 PM

So Jalen Rose came up with his all time Michigan starting 5 for basketball. This is what he had:

Trey Burke

Jalen Rose

Glen Rice

Juwan Howard

Chris Webber

What would you guys put for your starting 5? Obviously it might be nice to have at least one guy from before the 80's.

Off the top of my head, I would put Cazzie in here and take either Rose or Burke out. Keep the rest. 

 

 

 

 

Michigan Arrogance

March 26th, 2020 at 1:51 PM ^

Trey Burke (20)  Jalen Rose (10) Rickey Green (10)

Cazzie Russel (30) Jalen Rose (10)

Glen Rice (20) Campy Russel (20)

Juwan Howard (20) Rudy T (20)

Chris Webber (30) Tarpley (10)

 

Hubbard, Grant, Stauskas off the bench situationally

NateVolk

March 26th, 2020 at 2:08 PM ^

Glad to see Gary Grant on so many lists.

He is the best point guard I've seen at Michigan in my life time.  

And there are other great ones as has been pointed out.

ralphgoblue

March 26th, 2020 at 2:18 PM ^

For starters his list does have a guy from the 80s Glen Rice

Heres a list (alphabetically) of every person that played basketball at Michigan

https://www.proballers.com/basketball/team/1117/michigan-wolverines/all…

Michigan Wolverines All-Time Roster | Proballers

My starting 5

college career

PG  Trey Burke - National Player of the Year ,BIG10 Freshman of year ,and as a Sophomore he lead the team in scoring,assist,steals and BLOCKS .At the time he set Michigan season assist record

SG Cazzie Russel - (Number retired) National Player of year (avg 30.8 that season) 3 x All American .Helped Michigan to back to back Final 4,3 straight BIG10 titles .Crisler Arena is called "the house that Cazzie built"

SF Glen Rice (Number retired) Michigan All Time scoring leader,All American avg 25.6 while shooting 58.3% and 52% from three that season.Helped lead Michigan to 89 National Title and named Final 4 MOP while scoring 184 that tournament ,a record that still stands.

PF Rudy Tomjanovich (Number retired) - 2 x All American ,3 x All Conference .Michigan All Time rebound leader,2nd All Time scorer.

C Chris Webber - All American THE ONLY player in NCAA history to AVG  17+ pts 10+ rbs,2.5 ast,2.5 blocks and 1.5 steals ,while playing 70+ games

Coach Steve Fisher  National Championship, three Final 4s ,four Elite 8s .highest win% All Time (50+ games) highest win% NCAA Tournament in school history . 3rd most wins

NBA career

PG Jalen Rose 16 year career . Nine times scoring 15+ per game . Solid NBA career with 923 games,13,200 points,3500 assist.3100 rebounds

SG Jamal Crawford 20+ years played. 3 x 6th ,man of the year .The ONLY player in NBA history to score 50+ with 4 different teams,the only player to score 50+ off the bench .He is top 20 in 50 point scoring games.7th in NBA history in made 3s . one of two players to score 10 000 off the bench

SF Glen Rice 3 x All Star  had a 7 yr run where he avg about 23 per game

PF Rudy Tomjanovich (Number retired) 5 x All Star ,Houston Rockets 3rd leading scorer in franchise history. 2nd overall pick in 1970 draft   Sandwiched between Bob Lanier and Pistol Pete

C Chris Webber (number retired) 5 x All Star NBA Rookie of year. 13 x avg 20+ points .13 x avg 9+ rebounds

Coach Rudy Tomjanovich -  2 NBA titles with the Rockets,Olympic Gold Medal

Rudy T has to be the greatest Michigan basketball person of All time

Side note : Chris Webber,Cazzie Russel,Rudy Tomjanovch were named top 100 High school basketball players of All Time .They dont give an actual spot where a player is ranked,just a top 100

AC1997

March 26th, 2020 at 3:48 PM ^

I think I'd take Beilein over Fisher as the coach though.  Fisher did a lot of good things....he also contributed to the program getting in NCAA trouble and relied much more on highly ranked recruits. While he went to one more championship game than Beilein and took home the trophy, he also did so with his predecessor's team. 

ralphgoblue

March 26th, 2020 at 4:42 PM ^

John Beilein coached at Michigan for 12 years:

21 NCAA tournament wins,finished top 3 in conference 3 times . 7 x lost 12+ games . signed 14 players that made an NBA roster .Great teacher of the game.Guys like Trey ,Duncan Nik improved under John.

Steve Fisher coached at Michigan 8 years + 6 games

22 Tournament wins (team record)  finished top 3 in BIG10  five  times.(team record) 2 times lost 12+ games .signed 14 guys that made an NBA roster .great teacher ,great recruiter .

in 4 less years Steve Fisher had more tournament wins,better BIG10 success,signed the same number of NBA players and won a National Title

iMBlue2

March 26th, 2020 at 2:55 PM ^

I agree with all of the OP selections with the discussion of Trey Burke having the most competition in the backcourt.  Depending on individual criteria I submit Jamaal Crawford and Rumeal Robinson deserve equal consideration.  

MGrad

March 26th, 2020 at 2:57 PM ^

Very tough, but here goes.

Gary Grant PG - true 2 way player

Jalen at SG

Cazzie or Glen at SF, but easily the high debate pick'em

Roy Tarpley at PF. Don't sleep on Tim McCormick

C-Web.  Crazy talent.

 

 

 

 

shoes

March 26th, 2020 at 3:40 PM ^

Depends on how you approach it. The five best players at their peak somewhat logically put in positions, or do you consider how they might play together?

Here is mine:

1) Cazzie Russell,  could play the 2 or the 3. Great scorer and rebounder for his size.

2) Glen Rice at the 3 or 4, best pure shooter I have ever seen and tall enough to get it off without necessarily requiring a screen. Also a very fine rebounder.

Since I've used the first two spots up with guys who are going to need the ball and aren't great defensively (except for rebounding), that impacts my next 3 picks.

3) Gary Grant at the 1. Great defense, great passer.

4) Rudy T. at the 4 Incredible rebounder, very good defensively. Another scorer but could defer, I think.

5) Roy Tarpley at the 5, man is this a good rebounding team or what? Shot blocking and defense as well.

Think this team would be absolute dynamite and without any weaknesses.

Don't mean to dismiss Burke or anyone else, but think Grant's defense is very much a plus that would come in handy.

 

AC1997

March 26th, 2020 at 3:52 PM ^

Here's mine, emphasizing that I have little knowledge before 1989 and will neglect the old-timers.

  1. Burke
  2. Cazzie
  3. Rice
  4. Webber
  5. Rudy T

Second team:

  1. Grant
  2. Rose
  3. Green
  4. Howard
  5. Tarpley

Honorable mention:

  • Stauskas
  • Blanchard - the lost great player in the Amaker era
  • Rumeal - not as good a player as his popularity at the time, still solid
  • Simpson
  • Mills
  • Vaught
  • Traylor
  • McCormick

SC Wolverine

March 26th, 2020 at 3:56 PM ^

I love Jalen, but he doesn't make the top 5: 

 

Trey Burke (NPoY; incredible tourney run leading to near-NC)

Cazzie Russell (let's not forget greats from long ago)

Glen Rice (Must be on every list).

Chris Weber (Most dominant of the Fab-5)

Roy Tarpley (Love Juwan, but he wasn't as dominant as Tarpley)

Hensons Mobile…

March 26th, 2020 at 3:57 PM ^

Fisher era: Rice, Webber, Howard, Rose, Bullock

Ellerbe era: Bullock, Jamal, LaVell, Gaines, B-Robinson

Amaker era: B-Robinson, Horton, Dion Harris, Courtney Sims, uhhhhhhh Lester Abram

Beilein era: Trey, Nik, Mitch, Moe, Caris

Howard era: Zavier, Teske, Franz, Livers, Brooks

 

Edit: I guess this was a starting 5 which makes the Ellerbe era really small. Regardless, I'll take my chances with Robinson and Blanchard at the 4 and 5.

Roanman

March 26th, 2020 at 5:46 PM ^

I'd take Cazzie Russel over Jalen Rose, and Rudy Tomjanovich over Juwan Howard.

My second team goes, Rickey Green, Gary Grant, Juwan Howard, Bill Bunting and Jalen Rose.

 

LV Sports Bettor

March 26th, 2020 at 5:47 PM ^

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Eric Riley

Paul Jokisch

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Jason Bossard

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BursleyHall82

March 26th, 2020 at 6:41 PM ^

Love these discussions.

Rudy T. was on some awful teams, but he was probably the greatest Michigan player ever. So my starting five:

Rudy T.

Cazzie Russell

Glen Rice

Trey Burke

Chris Webber

outsidethebox

March 26th, 2020 at 9:42 PM ^

Picking an all-time Michigan starting 5 is a win-win task. There are at least three different sets of starting fives that could be named-that could stand very evenly with any other university's best starting five. 

Our family lived in the AA area when Johnny Orr was coaching. They were not always the most talented but I loved how they played the game. 

M and M Boys

March 27th, 2020 at 10:19 AM ^

If Rose thinks he was a better Michigan Team Player than Cazzie-- who was the National College Player of the Year--just keep listening to him

Blah, Rose,  Blah, Rose,  Blah ME ME ME ME ME, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah............

Rudy T might beg to differ as well......

And, there are more who were better players at M......more than just a few!