Could Jay be a candidate for DC?
This thread could be worthless in an hour and I admit the prospect doesn’t seem all too likely, but consider…
- Jay has been coaching in the secondary for the past two years, in addition to his role as Special Teams coordinator.
- Jay has been credited as the guy who rubbed shoulders with Phil Parker, bringing back the philosophy of coaching the defense on how to respond after a turnover.
- Oddly enough, he generally fits the bill of former Ravens coach who needs seasoning (i.e., a chance to gain experience calling his own defense).
- Many assume Jay would go to LA to coach ST, but the Chargers already have possibly the best ST coach in football.
It doesn’t hurt that he’s still one of our best recruiters. Thoughts?
January 27th, 2024 at 1:34 PM ^
Maybe at a MAC school to develop first.
January 27th, 2024 at 3:09 PM ^
Have we forgotten that everything he touches turns to gold? Name one adventure that's not worked out with him being there. I think you could throw a co-defensive coordinator on him. I wouldn't put him as the lone man, but he's been absolutely fantastic.
January 27th, 2024 at 5:30 PM ^
Ok, fine, Now name one adventure that didn't take place under his dad's direct supervision and mentoring.
January 27th, 2024 at 9:41 PM ^
I wouldn't say that the CFP was a glowing endorsement of Jay Harbaugh's Special Teams. Two muffed punts, a missed field and a botched extra point against Alabama. Against Washington, on Michigan's first two possessions, Morgan made a mistake in bringing the ball out both times as he only made it to the 14- and 16-yard lines, making Michigan drive a longer field.
January 27th, 2024 at 1:34 PM ^
I would say he isn't, but he would certainly be worthy of consideration if he were interested.
One heckuva coach.
January 27th, 2024 at 1:35 PM ^
Do you want to lose Clink and/or Elston?
January 27th, 2024 at 2:06 PM ^
Don’t want to lose them but at the same time, this shouldn’t turn into “auto promotion” for each assistant. Still need the best available
January 27th, 2024 at 2:17 PM ^
Clink has been a secondary coach in the system for 3 years and has been a defensive coach for many more than Jay. I dunno why everyone wants to pass him over. Minter was a secondary guy too so I'd assume he and Clink worked closely on all those sophisticated coverages everyone was raving about.
January 27th, 2024 at 2:35 PM ^
I remember Clink was a rising start when we got him. At the same time, our fortunes vs. OSU (and really everyone) changed once we switched to the Ravens-style defense. Hence I can see why we would want to keep grabbing their coaches.
January 27th, 2024 at 2:26 PM ^
Praying they pay Mike Elston to give Sherrone a chance. ND would just shit out NFL d-linemen while he was there regardless of who the DC was. The guy is a gem of a D-line coach.
January 27th, 2024 at 2:32 PM ^
Neither; and both should be under consideration should they aspire to be the next DC. Clink certainly should be in the running. Maybe a Clink/Elston Co-DC would work.
Now the assistant coaching carousel at Michigan part 2 is underway.
January 27th, 2024 at 1:36 PM ^
I think he's one coaching turn away from being a coordinator at a big-time program. But I am equally sure he will get there.
January 27th, 2024 at 1:39 PM ^
If his name wasn’t Harbaugh he already would be a coordinator somewhere
January 27th, 2024 at 4:26 PM ^
If he would stop working for his dad that problem would go away.
January 27th, 2024 at 4:43 PM ^
So, the Harbaugh name is what is holding him back, interesting 🤔, and silly me I thought it was actually giving him opportunities. Who knew?
January 27th, 2024 at 1:40 PM ^
NFL isn't like college where you have to shoehorn a person into one of the allotted coaching positions. They can just make a position for Jay and call it whatever they want. He's coached various positions in the past. He wouldn't have to be a special teams coordinator.
January 27th, 2024 at 1:43 PM ^
Jay is extremely bright, has been in the system, and has coordinator experience being the special teams coach for a while.
If he isn't garunteed to leave, I would atleast give him an interview
January 27th, 2024 at 1:47 PM ^
Jay has been loyal to his Father and has pretty much been successful at every coaching position he's been tasked to handle. On top of that, he shown to be a damn good recruiter. If I am Moore, I am doing whatever I can to retain his services at Michigan, where ever that might be.
January 27th, 2024 at 1:49 PM ^
Isn’t he going with Jim? Or is that not official yet?
January 27th, 2024 at 1:50 PM ^
Nah yo
January 27th, 2024 at 1:54 PM ^
I like Jay, but he hasn't even coached a position role on defense, so this a big jump.
Personally, I think they will look at someone like Orr (ie NFL position coach) or promote Clink...
January 27th, 2024 at 2:02 PM ^
LB: i think you missed this in the OP:
- Jay has been coaching in the secondary for the past two years, in addition to his role as Special Teams coordinator.
January 27th, 2024 at 2:29 PM ^
opps.
mea culpa, he has been coaching the safeties.
Apologies... i mean I guess it's a possiblity then.
January 27th, 2024 at 1:56 PM ^
I think DC is the spot where we absolutely want a guy who's called a defense before. With Moore still here it makes the OC job a lot less pressure with his input but to keep our elite D we need a guy with prior DC experience. IMO anyway.
January 27th, 2024 at 1:59 PM ^
I feel like Jay is being groomed for offense. I took his move to coach safeties as also part of that since reading the safeties are a significant part of reading defenses. I could be wrong about that but it made sense when the move was made. For all I know, he could very well have made a move to defense. Whatever he wants to do I think you offer the next step to him and try to keep him if possible. He's proven he can do anything he's tasked with and do it well. A co-coordinator role of whichever side of the ball he prefers would definitely be a good move for Coach Moore to offer.
January 27th, 2024 at 2:00 PM ^
I know he was safeties coach this year, so maybe, but mostly he had worked with the offense before. I had kind of thought he could be an OC candidate in the hypothetical where he doesn't go to LA.
January 27th, 2024 at 2:04 PM ^
Need NFL position coach experience
January 27th, 2024 at 2:04 PM ^
Heck no
January 27th, 2024 at 2:06 PM ^
All jokes aside, there hasn’t been a position yet that Jay hasn’t turned into gold. That said, he doesn’t have DC experience and will not even be in the running for it.
January 27th, 2024 at 2:09 PM ^
Neither did Mike Macdonald if I recall correctly
January 27th, 2024 at 3:28 PM ^
Send him to the Ravens or Chargers for a few years and then bring him back and I’m good with it.
January 27th, 2024 at 2:18 PM ^
The running backs struggled with pass protection when Jay was their coach. There was a big difference when Mike Hart took over. I would like Jay to stay for his recruiting ability. He found Hassan Haskins and Colston Loveland.
January 27th, 2024 at 2:41 PM ^
That is not true. Hidgon, Tru Wilson, Charbonet, and Haskins all excelled in that department.
January 27th, 2024 at 2:47 PM ^
So who was in the backfield missing blitz pickups and getting the QB sacked? Jay did very well with special teams.
January 27th, 2024 at 3:53 PM ^
Jaybaugh coached RBs from 2017-2020.
If you go to the 2018 RB preview it talks about how big of a disaster 2017 was for pickups BUT it also points out much of that was Warriner's blocking system being a burden and we improved dramatically in year 2.
In year three, 2019, we were going to go with Tru Wilson because according to this blog he was "The best pass blocking RB since Mike Hart" and then Zack Charbonet was equally good.
2020 was 2020.
In fact, the blog writers regularly pointed to RB's pass blocking as a thing we could point to with Jay to show he knew what he was doing. He was just slandered by some because they hated him for being a nepotism hire. So unless you can provide evidence for your claim, I will continue to believe it is false
January 27th, 2024 at 2:22 PM ^
If we’re just throwing names out there, I would suggest Brian Ferentz. He seems to be really good at shutting down offenses.
January 27th, 2024 at 2:28 PM ^
He would be on my list to interview for TE coach.
January 27th, 2024 at 3:56 PM ^
Almost spit my beer out at this, pure gold.
January 27th, 2024 at 5:02 PM ^
/thread
DHughes is the winner.
January 27th, 2024 at 2:35 PM ^
Obviously the goal is the retain as many as possible from the current staff. I’d like Jay to stay, but not sure he is ready to be DC, and there are others more qualified on this stuff. My guess is that Jay follows his dad to the NFL.
January 27th, 2024 at 2:38 PM ^
Sean Spencer, Coach Chaos.....
January 27th, 2024 at 2:50 PM ^
Please stop cluttering the board when meaningful announcements will be made soon.
January 27th, 2024 at 3:02 PM ^
Larry Foote should be a candidate.
January 27th, 2024 at 3:45 PM ^
Jay would keep the pipelines open to the Ravens and the Chargers. Worth keeping him for that reason alone!
January 27th, 2024 at 3:48 PM ^
Why the hell not. He’s literally had every job there is on game day and excelled at it. Probably one hell of a hot dog vendor and beer slinger, if the job presented itself. Unfortunately he’s gonna be gone with papa.
January 27th, 2024 at 4:03 PM ^
This suggestion is really ignorant. The disrespect and slighting of clinkscale is amazing. The guy is already co def coordinator and now he’s supposed to be passed up by all these other guys let alone someone who is not going to even be here nor any proven skills to lead a defense???
this place is crazy af
January 27th, 2024 at 4:19 PM ^
Jaybaugh has been here longer, been a coordinator longer, is a better recruiter, everything he has touched turbed to gold, and John Henske said some sources suggest Clinksdale does not actually want to become the play caller.
If this did happen, this would likely be Co-DC between Jay and Clink. Calm down.
January 27th, 2024 at 8:54 PM ^
Jay had his worst game as a special teams coach in the rose bowl and could have cost the natty. They played awful the whole game and lucky to overcome it. The fact he could never develop a real punt returner all season who wouldn’t let the ball drop and roll every time was horrific.
This guy has been overrated since he’s been here. His work with rbs was bad as was his decision to move haskins to lb only to call him back when injuries and fumbles became an issue. Jay is lucky to be on this team.