stephenrjking

January 21st, 2016 at 4:16 PM ^

The decommits are all CLEARLY guys who would stay if they could and are getting edged out. Whether their offers are actively pulled, or they realize that there is no space for them and move on their own, they are guys who would stay if they could. And, as part of a class that has a lot of higher-ranked guys playing for a great coach, they would be champions.

So, surely, this hurts for them. They would stay. They would be champions. They aren't able to. Maybe it's the way it needs to be, but don't mistake this for an appropriate response.

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TESOE

January 22nd, 2016 at 1:09 AM ^

Richardson is likely to land well... as will the others.

Committing to Michigan is not winning the lottery.  It comes with expectations.  We don't know what those are or how they are communicated.  These kids will play CFB.  Yes that hurts but not in the way you are intimating.

Every year Michigan takes early applicants.  Do you know what happens when they get Senioritis?  Their acceptance is rescinded if a proper explanation is not made.  It's not just sports.  It's life.  

Regarding fitness for playing on scholarship for Michigan, only Harbaugh can speak to the expectation and/or explanation.  If the kids want to walk on despite Harbaugh - they can - preferred or not.  

You don't know what is going on here.

No mistake...this response is appropriate.

 

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JTrain

January 21st, 2016 at 4:09 PM ^

You know the drill. Just rollllll with it fellas. Trust in Harbaugh and his staff.
Any other year decommits would scare me. This year...it appears every time we have one a higher rates recruit shows up.



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JimmyFresh

January 21st, 2016 at 4:13 PM ^

Long, Gary, Hill, Murphy, Allen, Mbem-Bosse, Jones, McDoom, Hudson, Spanellis, Pie, Nordin, Uche, Dwomfour.  Maybe Fuller?  Gotta make room some how.      

 

I agree that the staff offered too many guys early, but as long as they were up front with them, then so be it.  I think the staff was trying to make a splash with the camps and it might have kind of backfired a little.  However, these kids did get the benefit of being a "Michigan commit," which could only help their stock.  The optics of some this is not great, but hopefully the staff has everything under control and this won't be an isssue moving forward.  I trust Harbaugh...this isn't his first rodeo in recruiting.                                    

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UMgradMSUdad

January 21st, 2016 at 4:14 PM ^

Most of the players offered at camps who don't make it into Michigan's class owe a debt of gratitude to Harbaugh for raising their profiles and getting national attention.

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JimmyFresh

January 21st, 2016 at 4:22 PM ^

The players that Harbaugh is turning away right now are the type of guys he took at Stanford and built them into a national power.  Imagine what he'll do with a roster full of four and five star guys instead of a roster full of two, three, and the occasional four star.

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JimmyFresh

January 21st, 2016 at 4:31 PM ^

Detroit Blue, you are 100% correct.  With Long, Hill, Hudson, Fuller, etc possibly coming in, maybe he saw the writing the on the wall and decided Michigan was pretty far to go to sit on the bench.  Or maybe the staff did tell him that he was out.  Hard to say.  Good luck to the young man.  He definitley has some talent.

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The Mad Hatter

January 21st, 2016 at 4:27 PM ^

that the 2017 class is going to be filled with 4 and 5 star players.  Now that Harbaugh knows he can get the best players in the country to come to Michigan, that's exactly what he's going to do.

There won't be any 2 or 3 star camp offers this year.

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Indonacious

January 21st, 2016 at 5:13 PM ^

I don't know about flyers but those schools do take 3* players. Osu: 5/21 and Bama: 7/16. Those ratios will thin out as both schools are expected to finish very strongly but the point remains. They key is for those players to be ones that our coaching staff likes and wants vs. scenarios where we have to take them because we miss out on too many people on the board.



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Nolongerusingaccount

January 21st, 2016 at 4:46 PM ^

Because I doubt we ever fill our class with all four/five stars (no one does exempting maybe Alabama and USC from ten years ago) and Harbaugh and his staff clearly appear to trust their evaluation abilities. That should be obvious from the fact that they are will willing to pull a a scholly from a four star OL with no obvious backup plan this late in the game



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JimmyFresh

January 21st, 2016 at 5:15 PM ^

Why not?  If Harbaugh builds it, they will come.  With the tradition, facilites, coolest uniforms, largest stadium, best fight song, not to mention great academics and the best coach in football, why can't Michigan become a recruiting juggernaut?  Harbaugh has a vision of building Michigan into a power like Alabama and OSU.  Get on board!

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Nolongerusingaccount

January 21st, 2016 at 5:29 PM ^

Weather and the fact that Michigan is not in a recruiting rich state (next year excepting) OSU and Alabama can get a decent number of 4/5 stars from their own backyards every year.

Plus, I think SysMark made a good point as well. 4/5 stars are not really proven. There is the occasional Peppers or Gary, but there a lot more who don't pan out which we know from our team's experience.

Anyways, I guess I don't mind the roller coaster as much as others. If Harbaugh believes a 2/3 star can help the team, I'm inclined to trust him



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UMProud

January 21st, 2016 at 4:32 PM ^

The players who are decommitting most likely are being told where they are at on the depth chart and given estimates of what their probability of playing time will be.

They also could be told that, based on current personnel in their position, they would be looking at several years before getting any meaningful playing time.

Or there could be an issue with their academics.

Lots of reasons here but I think JH would honor his scholarship offer if a kid wanted to stay with Michigan even if he was told there is little chance he would play.

For most kids they want to play.  Michigan has such a high degree of talent coming in the competition is intense even before they hit the campus!

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alltru

January 21st, 2016 at 4:32 PM ^

Jimmy - "just because I love youuuuuuuuuuuuuu, doesn't mean I want your babyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy..............." Bwahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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CLord

January 21st, 2016 at 5:34 PM ^

Dammit I wish Jim would just recruit with the same integrity, predictability and process our last three coaches utilized over the last 15 years that has opened up a massive talent gap between Muchigan and teams like OSU and Bama.... How dare our coach stay entirely within character and demand that his recruits COMPETE to the whistle before signing day to maintain Michigan's commitment to them, when they can tuck tail and decommit at will. Get off our mediocre lawn Jim!!! How dare you!!!

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Nolongerusingaccount

January 21st, 2016 at 5:46 PM ^

To be fair, Carr was a pretty excellent recruiter.  However, I suspect that people would have had issues with some of his recruits not meeting Michigan Man standards if social media existed then.  

I just didn't like the fact that we didn't open up the offensive floodgates like he could have with all the talent we had back in the late 90s/ early 00s.  We should have at least won one more national championship then.  

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